From owner-freebsd-chat Tue Apr 2 2:33: 1 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 74D6A37B41B for ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 02:32:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from corto.lpt.ens.fr (corto.lpt.ens.fr [129.199.122.2]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id g32AWsa91863 ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:32:54 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (rsidd@localhost) by corto.lpt.ens.fr (8.9.3/jtpda-5.3.1) id MAA56956 ; Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:32:54 +0200 (CEST) Date: Tue, 2 Apr 2002 12:32:54 +0200 From: Rahul Siddharthan To: Terry Lambert Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Anti-Unix Site Runs Unix Message-ID: <20020402123254.H49279@lpt.ens.fr> References: <20020402113404.A52321@lpt.ens.fr> <3CA9854E.A4D86CC4@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3CA9854E.A4D86CC4@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Tue, Apr 02, 2002 at 02:17:50AM -0800 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 3.4-STABLE i386 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Terry Lambert said on Apr 2, 2002 at 02:17:50: > > > Without the Netscape connection, it fails to support Java. > > > > Where did you get that idea? > > The Mozilla website. URL, please? I had a look at the release notes for 0.9.9 and what I found was, Mozilla has been tested with all 1.3.0_* versions of the JRE, and JRE 1.3.1, and beta versions of JDK 1.4. J2SE releases previous to 1.3.0_01 will not work with Mozilla . (http://www.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla0.9.9/#java) It doesn't seem quite the same as what you're saying... To install the default plugin, all you have to do is go to a page which requires java, and it will prompt you to download the plugin, and then it will download and install the plugin for you. That's it. If you prefer the IBM plugin you have to do it yourself but it's pretty easy. It does say Java isn't working yet on Mac OS X, however. > > > But it's binary. And it's supported. And it's not explicitly > > > labelled as "for testing purposes only!" on the download lead-in > > > page. > > > > What exactly does "supported" mean? When it crashes, do they come and > > hold your hand? > > Yes, for a fee. That was a rhetorical question. The real question is, do they fix it for you so that it doesn't crash? If they do that, why does it continue to crash for everyone else, and if they don't, what are you paying them for? Surely not for installing and re-installing the software, which is easy. Incidentally, if you want a good browser on your Solaris or AIX workstation, surely the right people to ask are Sun and IBM -- it's their job to provide one. It could be mozilla, or it could be something else (Sun is planning to supply a GNOME 2 desktop, so I guess they'll support galeon then). If you want a third-party browser, a system administrator who's interested in his users' welfare would pick a good browser and not just one which is "supported", or nobody would be using FreeBSD, we'd all be using Microsoft products. R To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message