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Date:      Sun, 30 Aug 2015 13:05:39 -0500 (CDT)
From:      "Valeri Galtsev" <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: /etc files
Message-ID:  <52248.76.193.17.15.1440957939.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20150830193337.2b7757ce.freebsd@edvax.de>
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On Sun, August 30, 2015 12:33 pm, Polytropon wrote:
> On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 11:49:50 -0453.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>> On 08/30/15 11:35, Polytropon wrote:
>> > On Sun, 30 Aug 2015 10:43:59 -0453.75, William A. Mahaffey III wrote:
>> >> I notice several files in my /etc directory whose filenames end in
>> ':'.
>> >> Are these system files ? If not, can I usefully delete them :-) ? TIA
>> &
>> >> have aq nice weekend.
>> > Never heared of those... can you provide an example?
>> > Maybe some timestamped backup files? But who would
>> > store them in /etc? And why should they end in ':'?
>> >
>> > Aside of file names, what do those files contain?
>> > Can you show or tell?
>> >
>> > And what are their creation timestamps?
>> >
>> > As it has been suggested, add the "src" component
>> > in /etc/freebsd-update.conf and fetch+install it,
>> > then compare to /usr/src/etc, which is the "template"
>> > from which /etc will be generated.
>> >
>> > To summarize: Files ending in ':' probably do not
>> > belong to /etc.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > COM1: :-)
>>
>>
>>  From last nights backup:
>>
>>
>> [wam@Q6600, ~, 11:46:03am] 1369 % lf /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/*:
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/enabled: /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/fingerprints:
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/mirror_type:
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/signature_type:
>> [wam@Q6600, ~, 11:46:09am] 1370 % file !$
>> file /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/*:
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/enabled::        ASCII text
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/fingerprints::   empty
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/mirror_type::    empty
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/signature_type:: empty

Doing grep piped to some other command or script while being in /etc (as
root) can produce filenames ending with columns. If this was the case you
may be able to find somewhere files with the same names but the column at
the end (if they still exists on that box). Just a wild guess.

Valeri

>
> Empty files and a text file, and ending in ':', very strange.
> However, a process with root privilege must have written them
> because /etc is (or _should be_) writable by root only.
>
> What does /etc/enabled: contain?
>
>
>
>> [wam@Q6600, ~, 11:46:14am] 1371 % ll  !$
>> ll /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/*:
>> -rw-r--r--. 1 wam users 143851520 Sep  3  2014
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/enabled:
>> -rw-r--r--. 1 wam users         0 Sep  3  2014
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/fingerprints:
>> -rw-r--r--. 1 wam users         0 Sep  3  2014
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/mirror_type:
>> -rw-r--r--. 1 wam users         0 Sep  3  2014
>> /home/rsync/Jaguar/etc/signature_type:
>
>
> And _this_ is very strange: Those look like user files. How
> did they get (a) into the original /etc, or (b) into its
> backup which you're showing the listing from?
>
>
>
>> I did the mod to freebsd-update.conf & did a fetch, but not an install
>> (yet), is that required ?
>
> Yes. The "fetch" operation will only download the changes,
> but "install" will actually put them in place. Of course
> you could manually extract what "fetch" has already down-
> loaded and find /usr/src.
>
> However, none of the names looks familiar to me in a
> context that they would somehow deserve to exist in /etc...
>
>
>
>> I see no /usr/src/etc directory after the
>> fetch, so I surmise that the update is required, no ?
>
> Correct. If not present yet, it will be generated and
> populated automatically when you do the "install" step.
>
>
>
>> If so, I will do
>> that from a console login to minimize disturbances to the force, not the
>> XFCE/rxvt ssh-root-login I currently have open ....
>
> It shouldn't matter. It's basically just an archive
> decompression process. :-)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Polytropon
> Magdeburg, Germany
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Valeri Galtsev
Sr System Administrator
Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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