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Date:      Mon, 29 Dec 2014 17:21:39 +0000
From:      RW <rwmaillists@googlemail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Backing Up a journaled FS
Message-ID:  <20141229172139.46b85f44@gumby.homeunix.com>
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On Mon, 29 Dec 2014 11:29:13 +0300
Odhiambo Washington wrote:

> I hope everyone enjoyed their foods & drinks during Christmas:)
> 
> Now, being new to 10-RELEASE, things continue to amaze me, but I
> attribute that to my slowness in understanding 10.
> 
> I have been used to 8.x and below so much that when changes started
> getting into 9.x and into 10.x I was simply overwhelmed. Now it's
> biting.
> 
> I have a server I installed with two identical disks. I used BSD
> labels instead of GPT and I had it a little rough creating my slices,
> because I am used to a situation where I only created / amd swap for
> such servers because it made life easy for me during backup. I would
> completely wipe all data on the second disk every Saturday, via a
> cron, and write it with data from the primary/running/active disk as
> a means of backup. Not so dandy but works quite fine anyway.
> 
> Now I have gotten to a point where I am stopped in my tracks because I
> cannot do dump/restore on a journaled fs:

Strictly speaking I think you can, you just can't use the -L option.
Whether not you want to dump without a snapshot is up to you. 

> So, do I have to disable the journaling option from the FS, or is
> there a better way to achieve the same result with journaling still
> on?

Just in case you're not aware, all the journalling does is to help
fsck recover unused blocks and inodes without doing a proper check
or running a background fsck. It doesn't provide any extra protection
against data loss, some of us have found SU + foreground fsck to be
more reliable than either SU+J or SU + background fsck.

I had a lot of trouble with SU+J and switched back to gjournal
partitions, I think they do support snapshots. In your position I
think I'd go for ZFS and have it keep two copies of everything.



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