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Date:      Wed, 22 Sep 2004 17:57:53 +0100
From:      Phil Payne <phil@sal-n-phil.net>
To:        "Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." <kdk@daleco.biz>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: make installkernel help required. (ANSWER... sort of)
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On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 16:33, Kevin D. Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P. wrote:
> Phil Payne wrote:
> 
> >On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 15:18, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >  
> >
> >>On 2004-09-22 13:44, Phil Payne <phil@sal-n-phil.net> wrote:
> >>    
> >>
> >>>On Wed, 2004-09-22 at 13:15, Giorgos Keramidas wrote:
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>>>Weird.  Everything seems ok but you seem to be bumping on a problem
> >>>>related to the shell in use :-/
> >>>>        
> >>>>
> >>>Weirder... installed Eterm... and I can installkernel & install ports
> >>>fine. So looks like its only aterm & xterm that have given me a problem.
> >>>      
> >>>
> >>Hmmm. What's your login shell?  Is it really invoked as a "login shell"
> >>by your xterms/aterms (i.e. with the -ls option of xterm)?
> >>    
> >>
> >
> >I use /bin/tcsh. It's not invoked by any aterm/xterm options, its just
> >set in /etc/passwd. Is that what you meant?
> >
> >Phil.
> >  
> >
> 
> That's the first part.  xterm doesn't {by default} set up your shell
> as a "login" shell ... therefore it doesn't get certain environment
> variables, and probably there are a few other things I don't know
> about ...
> 
> A simple test:  try typing "logout" to exit your xterm.  If it responds
> "not a login shell", then, well, it's not.  Starting xterm with -ls should
> help with the problem, as Giorgos stated.
> 
> Now, to further support the theory Giorgos has here, Eterm *does*
> seem to use its "-l" option by default, so when using Eterm the terminal
> would invoke tcsh as a login shell ... and things should work.

I believe you're correct about it being a login shell issue. Using xterm
and using "su -" instead of "su" fixes the issue.

Not sure what's different in the environment that makes a full login
shell work though.

Anyway, many thanks to all who helped sort this out.

Thanks,
Phil.


> HTH,
> 
> Kevin Kinsey



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