From owner-svn-src-all@freebsd.org Thu Jan 16 19:49:39 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: svn-src-all@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D35C81F3466 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:49:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: from mail-qv1-xf30.google.com (mail-qv1-xf30.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::f30]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) client-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) client-digest SHA256) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "GTS CA 1O1" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 47zFC63rs6z4V0v for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:49:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from wlosh@bsdimp.com) Received: by mail-qv1-xf30.google.com with SMTP id u1so9644776qvk.13 for ; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:49:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=nXvUjUHN23ZFZUtBQmLPO13+3vb6yJxN2hTmbUiGKs4=; b=qxBDVBNEAzK6OpYjf1P4VZtrIuE/7ofWl3AY/6sKsxDGyUHeKvEmrpYNCZFgDm0OZQ o15oR1eXvp4/sABI6qRTPk1eHVumSXMYsNsYlx/R01S5yculSFvztqLTt+RFfDt1rM2L tILV2bq2g8EmlR4ImClGNB5AR1QtczkHZxTK6iavCH+3DaI3fbPYcbSbsU7bdZ0pL4XY VkitMXBRg/F6il8XyaMQXtQAkomC9FEfNj3y8u69d6GSHPwqWdI042GLKRA50RrmCbon 1lGNN56H3dtQSrYIntVh83TnrLrPbVxYTyyLuvd+7LThcuP0zcAuirnvzwVJnfLGzMvF fohQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=nXvUjUHN23ZFZUtBQmLPO13+3vb6yJxN2hTmbUiGKs4=; b=mSRYW17co9yS1lknEpcPmumzxTGyjfhmh9WJ2hoTBaIripwNZjn+zLtSFXZFpcbnXL cL0kTQDa5pI3vyhgEKJc/rqDaYDCtla8haQkA/iddASXfXME0y0N/LAJ5ox0ZPCgLOR1 sD4C1DUbvtbkZa2g8bMxHc4xau0fBXtrTOcFyOxNhEWAF7g6oJplxusH9YdqSUp4BBkJ A2ICdNbkRu2saOPa8ognVGaEM9tcbPcasWrEatLODr0zSnKq77aT8dlXmmef1nA4LujQ 5xfBSwUso/ricADcqN3wEibw5rdo6BATkG/sYFsOXN+H7ZElLXmgB/OZWzKkz/UaRp27 zS6Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVsyw4N/JAjqz7v/1kgCtEX57AchOST2Ud97AzhtKIHXelgQKx2 RICOvy1mgsz0BOe7bjL4xqEsgmTaV56Wth09icYJTilE X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxDyQIy23nSQA/Lpmz5klPPDVAmptXhQltHkwLyOIcbllnIYUWX3fSdZ/BYA4T+Qvd3ntlIGjuRqBXN1d90xdo= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6214:2a1:: with SMTP id m1mr4295699qvv.125.1579204171677; Thu, 16 Jan 2020 11:49:31 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <202001161727.00GHR81m093567@repo.freebsd.org> <6489e1f1-561c-f1e8-babf-ed7900496488@FreeBSD.org> In-Reply-To: From: Warner Losh Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 12:49:19 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: svn commit: r356797 - head/share/mk To: Ed Maste Cc: John Baldwin , src-committers , svn-src-all , svn-src-head X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 47zFC63rs6z4V0v X-Spamd-Bar: -- Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com header.s=20150623 header.b=qxBDVBNE; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of wlosh@bsdimp.com has no SPF policy when checking 2607:f8b0:4864:20::f30) smtp.mailfrom=wlosh@bsdimp.com X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-2.79 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:s=20150623]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[multipart/alternative,text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[svn-src-all@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[bsdimp.com]; RCPT_COUNT_FIVE(0.00)[5]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; TO_DN_ALL(0.00)[]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[bsdimp-com.20150623.gappssmtp.com:+]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FORGED_SENDER(0.30)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; IP_SCORE(-0.79)[ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-2.09), asn: 15169(-1.83), country: US(-0.05)]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; FROM_NEQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[imp@bsdimp.com,wlosh@bsdimp.com]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 X-BeenThere: svn-src-all@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "SVN commit messages for the entire src tree \(except for " user" and " projects" \)" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2020 19:49:39 -0000 On Thu, Jan 16, 2020, 12:18 PM Ed Maste wrote: > On Thu, 16 Jan 2020 at 12:34, John Baldwin wrote: > > > > I would support having MK_PROFILE default to off for 13. > > I agree. > > > Do we know if any other systems still > > ship -pg libraries as an option? Also, is anyone still using them? > > I'll try to check some representative Linux distributions, and later > post a question on appropriate mailing lists to see if anyone's using > them. > I think you'll find they haven't been shipped in over a decade. Maybe two. I'd turn them off by default as they have been overtaken by better, hardware assisted means. I've not used them in at least 15 years. 25-30 years ago I used them all the time. Warner >