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[70.121.63.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 185-v6sm4369574oid.22.2018.07.01.12.13.31 for (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Jul 2018 12:13:31 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 14:13:30 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Problem deleting files Message-ID: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 19:13:34 -0000 I have a problem with a directory full of files that I can't seem to delete. rm * returns argument list too long. So does file * find . -type f -exec rm [] \; returns rm: []: No such file or directory over and over again. ls | wc -l shows there's files there. ls | wc -l 5023368 And ls -l actually lists the files: -rw------- 1 root wheel 134 Jun 7 2015 sess_19n679i71prvju8nuqsvd727o4 If I try to delete that specific filename, it seems to work. (Running rm twice returns no such file the second time.) Yet the file count remains the same. I also tried rm -fr | ls -l | awk '{print $9}', which returned a list of filenames but didn't delete any of them. Nothing I've tried to delete these files seems to work. What can I do to get rid of these files? Paul Schmehl Independent Researcher From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 19:49:05 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF376FD5AA8 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:49:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (ipq210.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 46FB37B333 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:49:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id A25021DA6C; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 04:48:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost-backdoor.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 06FE735507; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 04:48:56 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id BE68735506; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 04:48:55 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 04:48:31 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20180702.044831.477271088854915236.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 19:49:05 -0000 From: Paul Schmehl Subject: Problem deleting files Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 14:13:30 -0500 > I have a problem with a directory full of files that I can't seem to > delete. > > rm * returns argument list too long. So does file * > > find . -type f -exec rm [] \; returns rm: []: No such file or > directory over and over again. Try following command. find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f If it is only a matter of the number of files, then this should work well. Best, --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 19:54:04 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F18BAFD5E8A for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: from mail-oi0-x229.google.com (mail-oi0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4003:c06::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 767657B787 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 19:54:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kurt.buff@gmail.com) Received: by mail-oi0-x229.google.com with SMTP id d189-v6so4145464oib.6 for ; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 12:54:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=il0LLpnepFUpw3eZYHES09kHd1uajFhgaVFg/LyeOKM=; b=KOpBQ4QPYzoMDU78PGg88exluh+yY7pj42QlVzDgvvehBUm07eMpQ/CeWujGy0I3Hh DIb1EJtZkaO6OPiSLLP1p7RCH/X3E5m8Ruh8doAJhXlfLoVqV5Zw/mja6xp5deUBYEkO y06b4275VNAO4CLXq+9OJ2i2Ud7H/bAREY0r8nJKgCshUgAvLhOgayWJ/kEA2e8NTXHD FMI6ER3AAN5vFcXQFuED/38vIMamsKR+HC1vIeJfxB6N89MVfMr75RF3BJ8Zv9vy3SQj LdTGieA+VBTWEf/SwteIp1J6Nm5kBz9s+WQUW40sJhrwEo3F0lzloQx/0iPHYNpOvPsU UDdw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=il0LLpnepFUpw3eZYHES09kHd1uajFhgaVFg/LyeOKM=; b=c4/rLoiQXMt7iDJNdGWJRLTTcWJKBexNJadP9WV9mZC7MQi3MwPgMAV9rmMFlpqMVN eqhpMgbwX4+Ki01ZIrwWq6MaVCx1igCgPXwVNnUk4oCaqj+kcjkj7qPGQhztdSHZaqhV pQUIxVnDD5Q3Cbzn8YdGxXKpoqJk8Jz7OxfIXnz4opxtWYifQrrGJyu+a71EthbvJoEJ vfWnG+954gyUZfQKxyFfM4pk2Dc75YO3QWr8Z1lgP0J+MAIy5tUUOtNmAudi/lFrIR85 +qLNo4U/FFJaQ/pDJJjLNAxk1uBbKwU53LKkbZ+ZGmh6V6cC55eZHueRJmtjcmtzxv4S IXlA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E08VyL7zMm7QuJ+xt/0Vg6l12rfF5V1ttnAZOc84+8LqCED5bGq RsiHX+wpErjxVyJAbvDHwSG3DNcxSnoDcNprqQc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcrh/YpES+Hw8+Zlyvy736x07BtokBvvVWlw/4HnlB3IV0YTlYZt4tHYMvbIFt/TV9U6pZFlxhUf52h8nv7Z4o= X-Received: by 2002:aca:bc54:: with SMTP id m81-v6mr7966900oif.308.1530474842503; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 12:54:02 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ac9:12b3:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 12:54:02 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> From: Kurt Buff Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 12:54:02 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Problem deleting files To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 19:54:04 -0000 On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 12:13 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I have a problem with a directory full of files that I can't seem to delete. > > rm * returns argument list too long. So does file * > > find . -type f -exec rm [] \; returns rm: []: No such file or directory over > and over again. > > ls | wc -l shows there's files there. > ls | wc -l > 5023368 > > And ls -l actually lists the files: > -rw------- 1 root wheel 134 Jun 7 2015 > sess_19n679i71prvju8nuqsvd727o4 > > If I try to delete that specific filename, it seems to work. (Running rm > twice returns no such file the second time.) Yet the file count remains the > same. > > I also tried rm -fr | ls -l | awk '{print $9}', which returned a list of > filenames but didn't delete any of them. > > Nothing I've tried to delete these files seems to work. What can I do to get > rid of these files? > > Paul Schmehl > Independent Researcher That the file count remains the same even after deleting a file seems a bit suspicious. I'm not sure what to make of that. But, perhaps a piecemeal approach? Assuming the files all begin "sess_", perhaps start with 'rm sess_0*', then 'rm sess_1*', etc. Tedious to be sure, and you might have to combine that approach with the 'find' incantation you've also tried, but seems worth a try. Even more tedious, but also worth trying: 'ls /directory > /root/out.txt' and then loop through that file with rm. Kurt From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 20:00:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AB2CFDA117 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:00:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from gate.utahime.jp (ipq210.utahime.jp [183.180.29.210]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BFA7E7B945 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:00:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from yasu@utahime.org) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (eastasia.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.1]) by gate.utahime.jp (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58DDE1DA7D; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 05:00:09 +0900 (JST) Received: from eastasia.home.utahime.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost-backdoor.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80AA35521; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 05:00:08 +0900 (JST) Received: from localhost (rolling.home.utahime.org [192.168.174.11]) by eastasia.home.utahime.org (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6C40535520; Mon, 2 Jul 2018 05:00:08 +0900 (JST) Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 04:59:45 +0900 (JST) Message-Id: <20180702.045945.196506400937397770.yasu@utahime.org> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files From: Yasuhiro KIMURA In-Reply-To: <20180702.044831.477271088854915236.yasu@utahime.org> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20180702.044831.477271088854915236.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Mew version 6.8 on Emacs 26.1 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:00:12 -0000 From: Yasuhiro KIMURA Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 04:48:31 +0900 (JST) > Try following command. Or >> find . -type f -exec rm [] \; returns rm: []: No such file or >> directory over and over again. Your command should be find . -type f -exec rm {} \; --- Yasuhiro KIMURA From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 20:07:44 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7135FDA471 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:07:44 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Received: from mail.covisp.net (mail.covisp.net [65.121.55.42]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 426F37BD1F for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:07:43 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kremels@kreme.com) Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii From: "@lbutlr" In-Reply-To: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 14:07:36 -0600 X-Random-Signature: Apple Broke Applescrip[t access to signatures, random sigs now powered by Keyboard Maestro Pro X-Face: )^b5"R:T7U>9~:PEn3YkzMfW*[b1qKeU.fP9C8~8HpU9}lA&6`bH1 Message-Id: <049611ED-A8CE-41CD-944A-6BEB9916A84E@kreme.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.100.13.1) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:07:44 -0000 On 01 Jul 2018, at 13:13, Paul Schmehl wrote: > find . -type f -exec rm [] \; returns rm: []: No such file or = directory over and over again. Should be {} and not [] But for non-ancient versions of find, this will work find . -type f -delete (I find it much easier to remember and certainly easier to type) --=20 I AM NOT A 32 YEAR OLD WOMAN Bart chalkboard Ep. 7F08 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 20:15:16 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16077FDA83A for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:15:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rowdy@netspace.net.au) Received: from icp-osb-irony-out6.external.iinet.net.au (icp-osb-irony-out6.external.iinet.net.au [203.59.1.106]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 368A47C3DD for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:15:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rowdy@netspace.net.au) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2AROQAFNTlb/0dA0XZSChwBAQEEAQEKA?= =?us-ascii?q?QGDSYFPEoQhiAaOFiqQHoUHgXk2AYRAAoMiIT8NAQIBAQEBAQECbSiFNwEFIxV?= =?us-ascii?q?RCw0LAgImAgJXEwgBAYMcgX+nXYIcGoRBg2yBLoELiTdAgTaCMzWET3iCNII1I?= =?us-ascii?q?AKNCYw9CYJNjEqBOAGBMIVChTCTdgqBUk0fGYMlkGMtgSgBj24BAQ?= X-IPAS-Result: =?us-ascii?q?A2AROQAFNTlb/0dA0XZSChwBAQEEAQEKAQGDSYFPEoQhiAa?= =?us-ascii?q?OFiqQHoUHgXk2AYRAAoMiIT8NAQIBAQEBAQECbSiFNwEFIxVRCw0LAgImAgJXE?= =?us-ascii?q?wgBAYMcgX+nXYIcGoRBg2yBLoELiTdAgTaCMzWET3iCNII1IAKNCYw9CYJNjEq?= =?us-ascii?q?BOAGBMIVChTCTdgqBUk0fGYMlkGMtgSgBj24BAQ?= X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.51,295,1526313600"; d="scan'208";a="83076460" Received: from unknown (HELO Rowdys-iMac.local) ([118.209.64.71]) by icp-osb-irony-out6.iinet.net.au with ESMTP; 02 Jul 2018 04:14:58 +0800 Subject: Re: Problem deleting files To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> From: Rowdy Message-ID: <2bb48eb5-38d2-94a3-b9a4-920e2497590a@netspace.net.au> Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 06:14:58 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.12; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:15:16 -0000 On 2/7/18 5:13 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: > If I try to delete that specific filename, it seems to work. (Running rm > twice returns no such file the second time.) Yet the file count remains > the same. If you delete a file and the file count remains the same, perhaps a process is still creating these files. It would be a good idea to identify and remove that process or this will be a never-ending task. Rowdy From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 20:21:55 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D9542FDAC6E for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7D49B7C859 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:21:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 86800 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2018 20:21:54 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; s=1530e.5b3937e2.k1807; bh=LMGk6OWHzGyt35pnmWtBK7x52WpCrfSxpr+YhFwoKaw=; b=aYmlKNNC+UvmmYGWP2LnTCaE/fzLAPu6OOLvB55+WraXgesUgUsR1YHv0Q0cmstIk17Hz7zot7ZiYvv2Jw2PKfT9hocAnSxUsX8VHSyztZEUxQmHeta55w1Yc6ajZq4z4W9lNvDlAuGeNaB2VZaHsdSG9RPXkQ4t3FXxryajyX1xidKvHOwBZiY/wZboPGkjeuwYnF36VyIrUah7LQjuYOIBpurmPtXjNlEBi1R3xi171M3cpFqKe00z+p5GM1Aw Received: from ary.local ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTP via TCP6; 01 Jul 2018 20:21:54 -0000 Received: by ary.local (Postfix, from userid 501) id A94AA28BD3C2; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 15:21:52 -0500 (EST) Date: 1 Jul 2018 15:21:52 -0500 Message-Id: <20180701202153.A94AA28BD3C2@ary.local> From: "John Levine" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Cc: paul.schmehl@gmail.com Subject: Re: Problem deleting files In-Reply-To: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> Organization: Taughannock Networks X-Headerized: yes Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:21:56 -0000 In article <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> you write: >Nothing I've tried to delete these files seems to work. What can I do to >get rid of these files? Have you tried this? $ rm -rf . (Be really sure you're in the right directory.) R's, John From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 20:31:54 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9600EFDAE9E for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:31:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E9C0D7CB5C for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:31:53 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.97.38]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue003 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MF8bn-1fKXVq2ce3-00GLjT; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 22:31:45 +0200 Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 22:31:44 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Schmehl Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Message-Id: <20180701223144.d331ae10.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:uFv3wCy8DvGV+FXbDWoPD6Dss0QmIQOI411wSYVIrPSQxqLjMfb lDhGPQixJBldtnLD5Rkox1uc+uTmiPApHuqxsoSknoBgiqAeeyKOiHUMnwisS3NHUPpU9te Ffqj8586+9euzt3QRkEF3NwtXydqQMp/g7T+CGrOLvfoJVQF+oSkFVvk+zHNePn4kbgCeH+ lhcMipDY/lvXtbhJ01yIA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:fxsiKxq9LGI=:7OM32uCUmetRK54DqFGvCt Ta623p6sePviyUKVntzldDSvUOFrWMBl7d8+dtWhUUR5jcyp1IBI+G+tUrVl62SKlwB+8splU vzEkUnOTA/YZD1VvQWIdOqP121CUNyFIoCsUszInneu3PcfUZZ5U1BA9byQ2YWAbmMvj5P6I8 xjZ6EPqu5A4lNhHZqaiHn2+5wQLwq571nm6HXbHS1vZGXCS1G1RtcdG8fIRrpeR9pDkEPCHAs oOh682B7Cal4fJRc+4kScUm4Q3oKfhJkxDrHe9RXnqkfZVLh47EahYyhHrJGHhHFzw4AtQFLv vogGnlmb8YdhG3ydpBcmNJaRmM35keyRN/xGTKVA0v6ORSlRBac6TWXz/YP4JayluqcAuvzl9 1Vs4OLaGtuEjGZKNrtWp+4l6yU/NoM2qur1kWOnJ+KwQdGfFNtmgaGGusP93Zdnx4W1BAmSTB v8SFSalkGpiR8onZmeHzgrTdF+ss7pIAqiq4pHgZmI+/Jaes2tAvwmueY6q3bfAkcTPhz2riT 2YLXb5FV6j4rQXa/fYiWNSsYxhJikFXozy6fW6j4Gq8RbWMj/989qqw5xp658yRcm3+4bE7mb YRGPtDEyfVA+FevXga6tZA0Ki0fUiozgY5Wr+5SeWduDi23ktPLJTBdB1V+JUOt78ICLfzKLQ 5IaoGn7vBLaqA16jnXyUZI8oJ9jOCETSC8F1ssmT1jbwC4K8R5m+9ciudQ5xaCsr4qLb+Pp0s 2I+5PVH3hvpj1B6w X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:31:54 -0000 On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 14:13:30 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > I have a problem with a directory full of files that I can't seem to delete. > [...] > If I try to delete that specific filename, it seems to work. (Running rm > twice returns no such file the second time.) Yet the file count remains the > same. Is this on UFS or ZFS? If UFS, unmount the partition and perform a "fsck -f" for that partition. In worst case, do it twice. What you're observing looks a bit like filesystem inconsistency problems. Putting the filesystem back into a consistent state should solve the problem. > Nothing I've tried to delete these files seems to work. What can I do to > get rid of these files? There is a way to do it with "lower level tools", but I would not suggest this for now. But let me mention it anyway: You can unmount the partition, and then use "fsdb" to examine the file system to check for the inodes that point to the files, or the one pointing to the directory that contains the files. Then remove them interactively from within the "fsdb" program, or use "clri" to do it. Afterwards, run "fsck -f" at least once (check for error messages!) to return the file system into a consistent state - the formerly occupied space will then be contributed to the free blocks list, and the space is then available again. See "man fsdb" and "man clri" for details. And be very careful if you decide to do it this way. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 20:42:02 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE0C9FDB1F5 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 620B07D2C6 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:42:02 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id ZjALf9w5e5AwUZjAPfs1UY; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:41:54 +0000 Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 15:41:48 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Yasuhiro KIMURA , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Message-ID: <39CDF0B8DF2CB21B11F47BD6@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <20180702.044831.477271088854915236.yasu@utahime.org> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20180702.044831.477271088854915236.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfAmtoiK89SN8OYjXdBao1ggRKveHNnkjoi+1xVuKYKjrZHWby0CgyYl3ZXIoZgYK2RoArOHdXaaJvWhaYdOCjH/SwzGLztS67XMGJgXza8oZjCkwE5GA oCHPfNwBQVqDgPlYSFMurieymsJfzuBSoB9l/GIKE/CWi2L+kL0MRXwuSvZua56Gwvt7HdXKIXsBCcUhgcjQ7Jpv4NQXWdv8rnyjJxF6a7d2OJojdgMTBI0b X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:42:03 -0000 --On July 2, 2018 at 4:48:31 AM +0900 Yasuhiro KIMURA wrote: > From: Paul Schmehl > Subject: Problem deleting files > Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 14:13:30 -0500 > >> I have a problem with a directory full of files that I can't seem to >> delete. >> >> rm * returns argument list too long. So does file * >> >> find . -type f -exec rm [] \; returns rm: []: No such file or >> directory over and over again. > > Try following command. > > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f > > If it is only a matter of the number of files, then this should work > well. This seems to be working, although it's taking quite some time. ls | wc -l 4698409 Thanks for the suggestion. It may take a while, but I think this will work. Paul Schmehl, Retired As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 20:42:49 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 275B9FDB3AE for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:42:49 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.230]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD2DA7D367 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 20:42:48 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id ZjBFf9whC5AwUZjBIfs1iv; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:42:49 +0000 Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 15:42:44 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Yasuhiro KIMURA , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Message-ID: <7B22B2E16499C1F7EC02602E@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <20180702.045945.196506400937397770.yasu@utahime.org> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20180702.044831.477271088854915236.yasu@utahime.org> <20180702.045945.196506400937397770.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfFGvAkhdhod62tYfNsRU/RCUjxM+GYOIDxLzgKvAIAniwrp55nuq2KtXmVyaZHCmSr1d8hqdkwQlXSv5K+5B4mLSAAGYWjbKNVNXUulHJOivV1rgBkeh +KCpK2adRVT68LjobZOCiR2EKEgiDFSZJosGbo9lx0jizrE5tPQX5TFjcSgsPFkHhImYtEL8JZFkxQK6tUS0fztpP38T1QQqBCIfk0yW1gidYvy4O+GiiwAH X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:42:49 -0000 --On July 2, 2018 at 4:59:45 AM +0900 Yasuhiro KIMURA wrote: > From: Yasuhiro KIMURA > Subject: Re: Problem deleting files > Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 04:48:31 +0900 (JST) > >> Try following command. > > Or > >>> find . -type f -exec rm [] \; returns rm: []: No such file or >>> directory over and over again. > > Your command should be > > find . -type f -exec rm {} \; > Yes, I know. That was a typo in the email. Paul Schmehl, Retired As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." 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[70.121.63.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r133-v6sm7071487oia.33.2018.07.01.13.45.35 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Jul 2018 13:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 15:45:34 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: John Levine , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Message-ID: <010DDED160955AC68C7EFA46@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <20180701202153.A94AA28BD3C2@ary.local> References: <20180701202153.A94AA28BD3C2@ary.local> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:45:37 -0000 --On July 1, 2018 at 3:21:52 PM -0500 John Levine wrote: > In article <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> you write: >> Nothing I've tried to delete these files seems to work. What can I do to >> get rid of these files? > > Have you tried this? > > $ rm -rf . > > (Be really sure you're in the right directory.) > Yes, I did. It returned argument list too long. Paul Schmehl Independent Researcher From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 21:01:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 279FAFDC24D for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 21:01:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C549C7E03E for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 21:01:50 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 95224 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2018 21:01:50 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=173f6.5b39413e.k1807; bh=OTiN/oYAkHUdIH1MyK+A7nDu5uCpAIZxPEVjNqUtCXg=; b=z6WFzntaASKAIeW7BIdUipz45V3yEsWf4M/1dMfWdfliLNY60YouxMuVDCadnqOu1wmg+DQmvxsROeCdWJpglArxgr5g+fJP+YFd5rfzdQey+AfV55IbPkRMF4hkTRUQb7K3SwmblCeQuad0lxR8xNqdr6gq03ARaKocPmfmFYnBkaOBJsy/zZdD6/cFtSF3ldYne5igXuCxGVzMuQqHeP+whiDLAaDJoGbeYZ8e49SesjdTkw2RgRxRM1s5DF2s Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.2/X.509/AEAD) via TCP6; 01 Jul 2018 21:01:49 -0000 Date: 1 Jul 2018 16:01:48 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Paul Schmehl" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files In-Reply-To: <010DDED160955AC68C7EFA46@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> References: <20180701202153.A94AA28BD3C2@ary.local> <010DDED160955AC68C7EFA46@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (OSX 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 21:01:51 -0000 >> $ rm -rf . >> >> (Be really sure you're in the right directory.) > > Yes, I did. It returned argument list too long. Not to contradict you, but the phrase "too long" does not appear in the source code to the rm program, and I am reasonably sure it does not produce that message. On the other hand the shell does produce that message when expanding wild cards. So are you sure you tried this: $ rm -rf . and not this? $ rm -rf * They're not the same. 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I have VIMAGE set up, and the jail ("bastion") has its own IP address. =E2=88=B4sudo iocage upgrade -r 11.1-RELEASE-p11 bastion Password: Looking up update.FreeBSD.org mirrors... 3 mirrors found. Fetching metadata signature for 11.1-RELEASE from update6.freebsd.org... done. Fetching metadata index... done. Inspecting system... done. The following components of FreeBSD seem to be installed: src/src world/base world/doc world/lib32 The following components of FreeBSD do not seem to be installed: world/base-dbg world/lib32-dbg Fetching metadata signature for 11.1-RELEASE-p11 from update6.freebsd.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 11.1-RELEASE-p11 from update5.freebsd.org... failed. Fetching metadata signature for 11.1-RELEASE-p11 from update4.freebsd.org... failed. ---- >From inside the jail: ping update6.freebsd.org PING update6.freebsd.org (198.148.79.66): 56 data bytes --=20 Eitan Adler --=20 Sent from my Turing Machine From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 21:06:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8BF71FDC9A2 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 21:06:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta03.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.228]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 225C97E6D8 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 21:06:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.10] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id ZjDEfKPlAgsLSZjDHfOj5S; Sun, 01 Jul 2018 20:44:53 +0000 Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 15:44:45 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Rowdy , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2bb48eb5-38d2-94a3-b9a4-920e2497590a@netspace.net.au> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <2bb48eb5-38d2-94a3-b9a4-920e2497590a@netspace.net.au> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEdHCcrVFSDASBPr1utzZVKhr+kM5sBzEpH/d+hy3p/eEqm4aqOJirhcwvSMHpc21SutZbdFC24Y8bbVmSBlBIZH6PNrurhyNXKxTKYdIFgFsEawDZwr A3ZjGOcKwb4+QcckKj2XL692VkE5LOaHe+FsB1DJ6cHrHY1xdjQgIXHxct5DKp9jHb0/B3xBmWBmHMbokvSa9WIX8kDvruSORsGFykvFyGtpxwAdovb0Zdkq X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 21:06:12 -0000 --On July 2, 2018 at 6:14:58 AM +1000 Rowdy wrote: > On 2/7/18 5:13 am, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> If I try to delete that specific filename, it seems to work. (Running rm >> twice returns no such file the second time.) Yet the file count remains >> the same. > > If you delete a file and the file count remains the same, perhaps a > process is still creating these files. > > It would be a good idea to identify and remove that process or this will > be a never-ending task. > For years I've had a rsync job that backs up one server to another. I disabled the job when the disk ran out of space and started looking for the problem. There's no process creating files in the directory now, but the files are turning out to be particularly stubborn at removal for some reason Paul Schmehl, Retired As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." 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Levine" wrote: >>> $ rm -rf . >>> >>> (Be really sure you're in the right directory.) >> >> Yes, I did. It returned argument list too long. > > Not to contradict you, but the phrase "too long" does not appear in the > source code to the rm program, and I am reasonably sure it does not > produce that message. On the other hand the shell does produce that > message when expanding wild cards. So are you sure you tried this: > > $ rm -rf . > > and not this? > > $ rm -rf * > > They're not the same. > # rm -fr . rm: "." and ".." may not be removed # rm -fr * bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long > Regards, > John Levine, johnl@iecc.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for > Dummies", > Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-questions@freebsd.org mailing list > https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions > To unsubscribe, send any mail to > "freebsd-questions-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" > Paul Schmehl Independent Researcher From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 22:24:57 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99BBEFE0B85 for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 22:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: from gal.iecc.com (gal.iecc.com [IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126:0:43:6f73:7461]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "gal.iecc.com", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3B1D6813AE for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 22:24:57 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from johnl@iecc.com) Received: (qmail 7340 invoked from network); 1 Jul 2018 22:24:56 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple; d=iecc.com; h=date:message-id:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-type:user-agent; s=1ca9.5b3954b8.k1807; bh=qoLA89L7RYC2p4ijl4V9pO49QARq8EHWXv3vKqIO898=; b=WYAD7KvjMu6klTAC26KSCEPgF+ErfCNT0f3LH1zbAp1SP0E92WoO1b/fCL/AK5o9CGS2o0sVCyeEb6OqQBZt0EkI81UXVBnmKbzIojTVvo79IrAqxjxSjqaHRx0joi1mtDyQYVEbtCe1xA6W34L8BPEXhZpJZfcAxksTtnHGMgNHNqWd0sqUd36BUaejMInB5DKmeArdWchIMA8AO13+RTePp8T/YJbIu/ncIMO3r1gLI/xBOVzXSeXkZReCM1c0 Received: from localhost ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) by imap.iecc.com ([IPv6:2001:470:1f07:1126::78:696d:6170]) with ESMTPS (TLS1.2/X.509/AEAD) via TCP6; 01 Jul 2018 22:24:56 -0000 Date: 1 Jul 2018 17:24:54 -0500 Message-ID: From: "John R. Levine" To: "Paul Schmehl" Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files In-Reply-To: References: <20180701202153.A94AA28BD3C2@ary.local> <010DDED160955AC68C7EFA46@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> User-Agent: Alpine 2.21 (OSX 202 2017-01-01) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 22:24:57 -0000 > # rm -fr . > rm: "." and ".." may not be removed Oh, ok, then go one level up. If your directory is callled abc $ rm -rf abc the -r recursor uses a library that can handle arbitrarily large sets of files. 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[70.121.63.82]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k189-v6sm6994813oif.32.2018.07.01.15.24.57 (version=TLS1 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 01 Jul 2018 15:24:57 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 17:24:56 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Polytropon cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <20180701223144.d331ae10.freebsd@edvax.de> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20180701223144.d331ae10.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 22:24:59 -0000 --On July 1, 2018 at 10:31:44 PM +0200 Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 14:13:30 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: >> I have a problem with a directory full of files that I can't seem to >> delete. [...] >> If I try to delete that specific filename, it seems to work. (Running rm >> twice returns no such file the second time.) Yet the file count remains >> the same. > > Is this on UFS or ZFS? > > If UFS, unmount the partition and perform a "fsck -f" for > that partition. In worst case, do it twice. > The problem is, I'm working remotely on a production server. Unmounting /var would bring a lot of things to a screeching halt, wouldn't it? The process that Yasuhiro suggested is working. It's just taking an interminably long period of time. I'm down to just over 4 million files now. I'm going to let it run overnight and see where we're at tomorrow. Paul Schmehl Independent Researcher From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sun Jul 1 22:49:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 039F4FE430C for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 22:49:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5F3018224E for ; Sun, 1 Jul 2018 22:49:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.97.38]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue002 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MA0ZU-1fOnfJ1ysi-00B839; Mon, 02 Jul 2018 00:36:13 +0200 Date: Mon, 2 Jul 2018 00:36:13 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Paul Schmehl Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Message-Id: <20180702003613.6addab07.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20180701223144.d331ae10.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:W9qYmgw/XRgb9nV8Fn0kY7K4P93QXXVIoBzDvl6sbv2XvWm6sLt D1AkXf6ihiaj+bXmLa7U9Hwbv54ncFMunHBp8knnPSMMHQIY80EdV5Sn8QDa1lOaA4cnU3Y +6i7juvwCZQH+8U0ZJ9X7Kg0M/dDXgEv2MhljlCZkL35wrST0EHJZjkaPryfF/rJJhmvWQd KzlE89+0hRJ8PUYQ6CMEQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:sXdDeGL5Qqc=:5WJANGlCR9gSjIQSUyooPC jQR0wgpapQvO9sJMu6RRGthtdErecT+Q0YdpFafBhaBfgoQSgyUFDUwSW8lnryBlC/ZCU0AxL ZFalnxaJxOZ6Sg3sYY3NHko9zmfT34tuEkJWXr7gOAbvy2eODQyVKiAMxTbeQ4tRIKTc4aoMc WnaqvaYYlAvy+sjvKGFVAhvhiB3ms7CP8/9L1T3ZIoP9+DZt56egEjRlkWV5cajlopSNVVUD+ 7yMqbv+B9lyUZRX2erI/WTPLEzZjF7SDKr74XFdf6umTOYfB2u8z5gPBBh1SQz2L2NBCmq02U OaIOdNExxNltWF3z7oEIY5j8iPq511SQzrUFglSdjFlXS0Iy9ngaOCtpCZiHHc1YzLcmv4+z2 beQcJN+ZvZ4mppIu4IIQdOdYsSFQzqLBVXLPXd2BxEQ+23QA6xAL9oosr7EGNSz4+6e3q4a0k IxW2adXs8K/mhK41rb/9wM4KG4KiJFsqjdYd9+IQ36UyC/QpKX5IHSmr9bKJPFNmCsgZHXYcF 4YoNQl+d4JkohPorubH97mWeU5DaPfD8FxSexPFlwZWVKgeKKbFeqZJlSO0bi03lp0uyuTHZZ KsBCQBt/xPD8J9aju5STtiG8o3hWTkGrqEjGaz2e3yz/qmffjnKO8zXSkFhZ3SEB5nn12L3hk h0KWA8ceQvUkHM6Vq9TPWZ2JwsY/Di7mojYtDdLSqgp2Lcs5Wjfdhc4kbTKR8XLaZbbxX+/hB xgpgNczgtaF8n0nu X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 22:49:14 -0000 On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 17:24:56 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > --On July 1, 2018 at 10:31:44 PM +0200 Polytropon wrote: > > > On Sun, 01 Jul 2018 14:13:30 -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > >> I have a problem with a directory full of files that I can't seem to > >> delete. [...] > >> If I try to delete that specific filename, it seems to work. (Running rm > >> twice returns no such file the second time.) Yet the file count remains > >> the same. > > > > Is this on UFS or ZFS? > > > > If UFS, unmount the partition and perform a "fsck -f" for > > that partition. In worst case, do it twice. > > > > The problem is, I'm working remotely on a production server. Unmounting > /var would bring a lot of things to a screeching halt, wouldn't it? Okay, so the problem is on /var... yes, that is problematic as many programs expect /var (and its subtrees) to be available for reading and writing during normal operation. However, you can still run "fsck -f /var" on a mounted filesystem for diagnostic purposes (NO WRITE). This will at least tell you if there is a problem with filesystem integrity. For such a test, disk activity should be as low as possible. > The process that Yasuhiro suggested is working. It's just taking an > interminably long period of time. I'm down to just over 4 million files > now. I'm going to let it run overnight and see where we're at tomorrow. When you use a program that calls unlink(), and you have certain sync operations in there, a delay is caused due to the many layers that require the "command - delete - sync - confirm" kind of operations, from the top level of virtual filesystem down to the disk device driver. But as you see the number of files decreasing, everything should be fine. So no need to dirty old "clri". ;-) -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... 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Levine" Cc: "Paul Schmehl" , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files In-Reply-To: References: <20180701202153.A94AA28BD3C2@ary.local> <010DDED160955AC68C7EFA46@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> X-Mailer: VM 8.2.0b under 26.1 (amd64-portbld-freebsd12.0) X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2018 00:36:16 -0000 John R. Levine writes: > > # rm -fr . > > rm: "." and ".." may not be removed > > Oh, ok, then go one level up. If your directory is callled abc > > $ rm -rf abc > > the -r recursor uses a library that can handle arbitrarily large sets of > files. Warning: it has been my (painful) experience that - depending on how you have things set up - deleting the current working directory can have unintended consequances. 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From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 3 16:32:51 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CB75B102F3D9 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dph.fluff.org) Received: from trinity.fluff.org (trinity.fluff.org [89.16.178.74]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68E168A624 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:32:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@dph.fluff.org) Received: from dh by trinity.fluff.org with local (Exim 4.72) (envelope-from ) id 1faOEP-00074m-SP; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 17:32:45 +0100 Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 17:32:45 +0100 From: Dave Hines To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: make startup delay in automounted NFS filesystem Message-ID: <20180703163245.GA26440@dph.fluff.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.20 (2009-06-14) X-SA-Exim-Connect-IP: X-SA-Exim-Mail-From: freebsd@dph.fluff.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No (on trinity.fluff.org); SAEximRunCond expanded to false X-Clacks-Overhead: "GNU Terry Pratchett" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 16:32:52 -0000 I was using make in FreeBSD 11.2-RELEASE #0 r335510 to build a small project, and noticed make pausing for almost 3 seconds every time it started. Using truss I found that make was trying to find ".../share/mk" by searching up the filesystem from the current directory, an extract of the truss output being: stat("/net/192.168.31.252/mnt/z/home/dh/dph/src/login/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' stat("/net/192.168.31.252/mnt/z/home/dh/dph/src/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' stat("/net/192.168.31.252/mnt/z/home/dh/dph/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' stat("/net/192.168.31.252/mnt/z/home/dh/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' stat("/net/192.168.31.252/mnt/z/home/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' stat("/net/192.168.31.252/mnt/z/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' stat("/net/192.168.31.252/mnt/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' stat("/net/192.168.31.252/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' [ pause for almost 3 seconds here ] stat("/net/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#5 'Input/output error' stat("/share/mk",0x7fffffffd348) ERR#2 'No such file or directory' open("/usr/share/mk",O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_DIRECTORY|O_CLOEXEC,057) = 3 (0x3) I am using the automounter to NFS mount /mnt/z/home from a host on a local ethernet with the address 192.168.31.252. The delay appears to be caused by the attempt to lookup /net/share/mk, which the automounter will see as looking for /mk on host share. As there is no such host the mount attempt fails after a few seconds. As a work-around, I created a symbolic link on the fileserver: ln -s /usr/share /net/192.168.31.252/mnt/z/home/dh/share and confirmed that this eliminated the delay. I don't like this, as it is an absolute link on the fileserver, pointing to a local directory on this host. From other hosts the link will be invalid. Is there a better way of avoiding this delay ? Should make use a different search strategy, or perhaps be aware of the automounter when searching for share/mk ? Regards -- Dave Hines. 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[82.15.193.59]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h102-v6sm2669580wrh.60.2018.07.03.10.07.49 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 03 Jul 2018 10:07:49 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Moolticute To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20180703163245.GA26440@dph.fluff.org> From: Kai Windle Openpgp: preference=signencrypt Autocrypt: addr=kaiwindle@gmail.com; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= xsBNBFgW4BkBCADH4aDcJPN1PC8jxELSz+PKSHxJAoPbbp00/gimx01AName0rytWQa0sEwO A7uAgwDzNHPA7RVL6J8CQ9R3tU0la9Go6cJkS+DbzI0IQnQefvJbTZdkrMgHlldBnD5jOSAS OoE8yeZch2luqFJEdlWovsUjAwXtI/HXRiEN4cd+k/wrV4b1kRLTiwz4xJeaGXv5d9AxfsWK nuPbXF3haRLNg/zpglaYhAzVn7r5+98yIOXvB2cDc6o2OhL+oxJWrCvAeXl/+riUFAPISYvU gBFRZUsoWwrqcW+2Eh3DmQHqbXohmoyCDJO4ndg0pKKl1Zd/QMMMiSPg4PiWz0UGkA0hABEB AAHNIEthaSBXaW5kbGUgPGthaXdpbmRsZUBnbWFpbC5jb20+wsB5BBMBCAAjBQJYFuAZAhsD BwsJCAcDAgEGFQgCCQoLBBYCAwECHgECF4AACgkQvX5xV3fzAcyxDgf/R3CzexsskfcxwqCl LyTi5qjS9b2qSoCZkJVFM4lENRJ4Fi4KbQmmk6tW2aHQVMDXATgcztO70iLOYBhfJmpdD5bg feqLbz6ZTn83wCQN817NkLaln3FX2PH2ueyAefdamoPePq3ED1YyOZ34d+wQYlsZI/6cpKzu I8m87NkPI0XDMZnI7VH1BKDTqixrDLf/QALqIAP94JTYT2CQvXwxIg1Ubtn4ZylkWjGE/IgS SzedaV9s5D0BN+pD+2z8+i0NzKnRJOW1mcciqMPW9qirsQcp9lgIRQeAH6gtwqa5LH2OCRIw dDCXvvl7qI2TxNV1YI54SgA+CkrN5SDloj49ac7ATQRYFuAZAQgAqrwxmHiTarETjLpnfyjM FVhWdqu7VJaxvbFjQHoflddS3QxXa6lBRd4ktymv8hic1b+23VdAaeTzrNQlQiXPumC3v7Oe 1Hg7aOFzElKqqrwtYfTb7KXt4Tw0QB/vvouZL3sFmJvm152oqudF2mIXLOWjd91HBUUOg1jt vjiG+FhVQ7qCZNnnIGKEOVetloBnMqUxMqqm3O80HLlhNXzHdX+JzjDhkxi5a4cx+l59zV7q /XGxOu/tcFPc6xwdTb8YOH6nHxy3Ld0ySOios1Yz5IkmxSsLf65mO9RrK95xZ9gTBYQdOawV k2k1ehM9E04to6MhqJDDp1853d6zckda0QARAQABwsBfBBgBCAAJBQJYFuAZAhsMAAoJEL1+ cVd38wHMhQEH/jocrHoAgjW3raHcHH/t4VjPpCgTC9SIOxgRV9S0JpiuJtIRtfimpGvkeDKu nkaGWiyNz1C9mEVTBCuqm1pGqg7uxubkfdSHhZIGUp2d0O46pynSj5vw9tRPPIzygvHktyBj vdEzhDEnCi5bAqEdKTU8/wyjRv22l9a11O9iy5/Gm5o3zxCg9ATpU6MUB4tV07rjZHLtYUIr Wy7lBAiwMHjujTfEiFo1zO1pUDW7G7arQKJQLwNiZok9dJRsMhHkP83zyOddOYjEdajJSpao ypcUSVm4XmEyMHj7VLhA7CrL60q2OvbB5Uad63jf57cVN17ZlXQP3Wz1Awdo/LjTF4o= Message-ID: Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:07:37 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180703163245.GA26440@dph.fluff.org> Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="VqI1WUuMky2GuPzwmK5rUAg0OSIqvvMeg" X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 17:07:53 -0000 This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 4880 and 3156) --VqI1WUuMky2GuPzwmK5rUAg0OSIqvvMeg Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="Vb9xjNNCOuynxk9n6RAkEkberA7lTyn8L"; protected-headers="v1" From: Kai Windle To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Message-ID: Subject: Moolticute References: <20180703163245.GA26440@dph.fluff.org> In-Reply-To: <20180703163245.GA26440@dph.fluff.org> --Vb9xjNNCOuynxk9n6RAkEkberA7lTyn8L Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi All, So I built a new computer back in January and as a 'temp' solution I installed windows 10 now I'm getting errors telling me my license is about to expire. So, I figure this is the best time for me to pull my finger out and reinstall FreeBSD. Before I do I need to know if anyone has built Moolticute on the OS yet? For reference I've included the GitHub project. https://github.com/mooltipass/moolticute I know 1password doesn't work with FreeBSD but I've been keeping duplicate passwords using Mooltipass: https://www.themooltipass.com/ for when this day finally happened. Failing them two options are there any alternatives to 1Password? that I can import my existing 1Password db into? I'd prefer to keep using Mooltipass as a hardware option. 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So, I figure this is the best time for me to pull my finger out and reinstall FreeBSD. Before I do I need to know if anyone has built Moolticute on the OS yet? For reference I've included the GitHub project. https://github.com/mooltipass/moolticute I know 1password doesn't work with FreeBSD but I've been keeping duplicate passwords using Mooltipass: https://www.themooltipass.com/ for when this day finally happened. Failing them two options are there any alternatives to 1Password? that I can import my existing 1Password db into? I'd prefer to keep using Mooltipass as a hardware option. Thanks Kai. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 3 18:38:34 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 19755103C203 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:38:34 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-vk0-x231.google.com (mail-vk0-x231.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c05::231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A090B912C9 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:38:33 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-vk0-x231.google.com with SMTP id h22-v6so1698508vke.4 for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 11:38:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pYVYSV7rOy/MPicHFUZL5/qnngry/vBiKGEJr6i5B+c=; b=UxhsUITNx8pysfcnWS6JBBjJN56I8sv+BnEAoxLCjNyc0VP0h/xTgSRUO1p0ZOGk0A U5MlGQPQDXj2JCjbRgzwd+CEqcQuYgZMUzOjHRzOWPT5hdOrhEMZ+WASJ33oqr1iNVU7 JV3v+Oi+dJbrk4zTxcCj1CV3XVRAaYmKGbTTC66zhC1LhFDfvNcjt3J4ItBaTKvHdECq Ap46TmBzmtlL+qsAbiyjF/CGGq4SsKDgqbkKsip6/gWkyrVjMKiy0bG0ILNmZQ5PKGsO oyZBKReGGpY5mbJ7GwerhUHZJX6++jWnImN6vqwBQbLLX93xJwTzhBt6xFfpVInJrute hi5A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=pYVYSV7rOy/MPicHFUZL5/qnngry/vBiKGEJr6i5B+c=; b=Oi2v/mwMQZDzkdKqe0MBN7DNnDqFONia3DvWUBKEh7mSzorOUwJYoVo89NGTRHhYdk 1DF9Ys1yqvou+rEbv2+n37+v7l/3sl4hnttJzMQPPtR7yBuz/i6qLK0IuIej1CVoeXsc 7u7R4k8MPGv6Xh5/WXabJ8UVP+ICzxQokDcmwxlOzFQw14eNnNuW3rwsKhe6zCcxYx3X O9XqVbsnJyCRVKhdgW3OYA5t3vqk3SjvD9Wjx13TdGx05qUMt5p9i/HirLkINQEFYmCf PrFAT0XqMb6wqjhpsXLsd/uep3hXxlKnb32orAlG9K5riVs40CnVowMqz30unRoOu4oE a8qA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2T3g+evgk8jA282/w3rOnD9bYhx3DsdJjaD+snbUz6lifJVFPR 7x0UYmroNAp02lJqsojfihzv3nrj7LiTU2N0Xxc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpefmRe5/b2vkCUnTSB7JiHaXZIluWpvs2MQP1+in2zN6lvBXua1IHmJ9ufMQoRyZ4wNeCevU5jxi9fXDulBI+c= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:9807:: with SMTP id a7-v6mr4929756vke.65.1530643112677; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 11:38:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:51c7:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 11:38:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Antonio Olivares Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 13:38:31 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Clang++ stdlib/cstdlib.h workaround To: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 18:38:34 -0000 Dear kind folks, I have a cpp file that used stdlib.h and it compiled and ran successfully. I am trying it out with clang and it returns errors that it cannot find stdlib.h, I remove the stdlib.h include statement and it still complains. I made a copy of the c++ file and it compiles and runs correctly, but I removed some stuff " --- " and only output the numbers. How do I deal with stdlib.h requirements? The program finds numbers that are triangular and square. It fails for numbers that are bigger than 2147483647. Thanks for ideas/suggestions/advice provided. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 3 20:39:11 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 680841024DE3 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 20:39:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0AC5B9744D for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 20:39:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88A3A6261A for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:39:04 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id vwwWHCp_Hvqo for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 414966260F for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:39:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.44 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:39:01 -0400 Message-ID: <523ffb82f14da9944a5368f28eddecac.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:39:01 -0400 Subject: Postfix-sasl on FreeBSD will not authenticate From: "James B. Byrne" To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 20:39:11 -0000 On server A we have cyrus-imapd running with spiped listening on TCP:143. On server B we have postfix-sasl-3.3.0 running with spiped listening on TCP:143 linked to server A. On server A saslauthd is configured in rc.conf to use rimap to the localhost: saslauthd_flags="-a rimap \ -O localhost" # Use Remote IMAP to authenticat Postfix is configured to use saslauth to authenticate outgoing senders: smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = no smtpd_sasl_exceptions_networks = smtpd_sasl_local_domain = smtpd_sasl_path = smtpd smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous smtpd_sasl_service = smtp smtpd_sasl_tls_security_options = $smtpd_sasl_security_options smtpd_sasl_type = cyrus But I cannot find any such file named smtpd.conf which, according to the Postfix documentation, should exist and should contain: pwcheck_method: saslauthd mech_list: PLAIN It appears to me that postfix is directly looking in /usr/local/etc/sasldb2.db itself and, finding no entries, failing to authenticate. How do I tell postfix to use the saslauthd daemon instead? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 3 20:53:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF5D710264E0 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 20:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (mail.geeks.org [IPv6:2001:4980:3333:1::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CA6A97DB8 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 20:53:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by after-clamsmtpd.geeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EDCF911020B; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 15:53:48 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.geeks.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id C560C11020A; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 15:53:48 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 15:53:48 -0500 From: Doug McIntyre To: The Doctor Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PHP 7.2 question Message-ID: <20180703205348.GA66335@geeks.org> References: <20180703013828.GA12913@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20180703013828.GA12913@doctor.nl2k.ab.ca> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 20:53:56 -0000 On Mon, Jul 02, 2018 at 07:38:28PM -0600, The Doctor wrote: > The only issue is the PHP 7.2 . > > I compiled most of the modules for Apache 2.4.33 and php-7.2 then compiled > mod_php7.2 after all the databases were compiled. > > the mod php is not picking up the databse modules yes php -i and php -m > indicted they are present. Which database modules? It shows mysqli? MysqlI Support => enabled Client API library version => mysqlnd 5.0.12-dev - 20150407 - $Id: 38fea24f2847fa7519001be390c98ae0acafe387 $ One major change with PHP7.x systems is the mysql module is deprecated and gone. A great # of old PHP software depends on this, and all of them need updates to use the proper API, mysqli now. There are a small handful of other modules that are deprecated with PHP7.0 and PHP7.2, but if something expects mysql vs. mysqli, then it is just too old to run on PHP7.x anyway and needs to be updated. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 3 21:27:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 11EE21029603 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:27:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robbelics@gmail.com) Received: from mail-lf0-x232.google.com (mail-lf0-x232.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::232]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 76E57716F5 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 21:27:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from robbelics@gmail.com) Received: by mail-lf0-x232.google.com with SMTP id h7-v6so2718203lfc.11 for ; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:27:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=C9xBGGq/Qq1R8xfWLk+gqhiO5aKC7p2pJa1vh8RG+UE=; b=Sq7RVbwlk6g2E8rBKd3aM9BuLO96YoXu5CWxcTWtnISRv1ZyOATr33WnPHEN//Q8ot K8xCZ0eM9d0fMhXRY3dtagB7TgO0vpsmj65LkfFFC/Zcv+Vb6MCqews1gva5JIYErOlW wZWLSD7e+DdY99JK/WTv+Fzg4kpBC6SGa08q6lc3n6JGMHo1PHVP4JjoIvwuMsj4Trs3 JrmJZ4V2012+KRwS2HfQccIWDSgEGzudhwM1l5OXuaj2MnJQ+sEsrVLY7P6X4yY7h93c hsfKgNdObKN46lyyAJ5gW80h3gGxa2JmDBRk6FjAroT3WW/Cx75pyRKhpksOtGOwmXmE Ddpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=C9xBGGq/Qq1R8xfWLk+gqhiO5aKC7p2pJa1vh8RG+UE=; b=QvTBoUEF20lFY3KuZleb9Auy6dUgaTLBikIZd6/OlvH7F3ypDzFMzOk+AWNKL2Xt/h 2kYLVUEvblimINFJqSK1VtGa9rxijcNvv8VT9Dr1omSShqNOqGtsmZthfm+6BSox+lxU 8ctQAtsHtKA59ikECA3NTJSA+XN/QqDOtZyOZKrS5nTAowH8PJKDqH3+qm4Luxf921j5 oofsTVTbJDJTszjSa4e9SywH9w2D81VL416ThgaMZiogYCfhdOSL3x7ol3dc1kwGfvkr 2jkKEaohWFGjXWR8A9uaSD7Z/hrUq0xYg1mK1TWZ93Kpld47verYV6qAB250G2DfLJru un2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E0xkTA/avfuGTd/3zDQM1pBbVxGi8F/MmhavI+gmBtw8MhnnUSc 7Px2pr1EsPNFAP0ggVe2iVDcw2dm/X95VWeG1+FFbVg= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdW9wsyL3b4YZ749SHvNbYUIrlP7SeNGrIayEHwoMAYttwAFibx2GCRTrnFFPx3gd01y3MqrYQ81U2KfMVGaR4= X-Received: by 2002:a19:1510:: with SMTP id l16-v6mr21464933lfi.88.1530653231755; Tue, 03 Jul 2018 14:27:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Rob Belics Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 16:27:00 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: /usr/local/lib/compat/libstdc++.so.6: version CXXABI_1.3.8 required To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 21:27:14 -0000 I see this is a common error, and even mentioned on the GNU site, but I'm not sure how to fix it. I am trying to start openLiteSpeed. It seems to compile and install just fine but when I "start" it, I get the error: /usr/local/lib/compat/libstdc++.so.6: version CXXABI_1.3.8 required by /usr/local/lsws/bin/openlitespeed not found [ERROR] Failed to start litespeed! No matching processes were found However, I have that library at that location. I believe the error is caused by the version but this is installed as part of 11.2-RELEASE. I'm aware there is another libstdc++.so.6 under gcc-extras(?). What confuses me is an openLiteSpeed person says they don't get the issue on their test machine which is 11.1 so I don't know where to go from here. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 3 22:12:39 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 45DE6102D55A for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 22:12:39 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) Received: from ns1.nethead.se (ns1.nethead.se [5.150.237.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ns1.nethead.se", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D7ED1739DB for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 22:12:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Nethead AB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nethead.se; s=NETHEADSE; t=1530655948; bh=kHRm83qF6k6i2Ii2KBhM7Jx3dFW9Ua6yDI4p7YLlRK8=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=JUrFRNh5deuQPBcMGf3AGd+LhD3GGaFi5QxzLjJriOYZNxpET/7tt2ZYqPEYPv1jy 030cYBJMhsoH3IDe4F+Tt7NL9iDRLlCQ0uQQ02ZJ9zbWL4RJ+hdnyJic502/Gze5DV mWEYCkC4CZryu2Tb6wJVTgCcJTc65kV2Pw5XctVs= Subject: Re: Postfix-sasl on FreeBSD will not authenticate To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <523ffb82f14da9944a5368f28eddecac.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> From: Per olof Ljungmark Message-ID: <0970ea44-1438-171a-4f44-221c4f9facd4@nethead.se> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 00:12:27 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <523ffb82f14da9944a5368f28eddecac.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 22:12:39 -0000 On 07/03/18 22:39, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > On server A we have cyrus-imapd running with spiped listening on > TCP:143. On server B we have postfix-sasl-3.3.0 running with spiped > listening on TCP:143 linked to server A. > > On server A saslauthd is configured in rc.conf to use rimap to the > localhost: > > saslauthd_flags="-a rimap \ > -O localhost" # Use Remote IMAP to authenticat > > Postfix is configured to use saslauth to authenticate outgoing senders: > > smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes > smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = no > smtpd_sasl_exceptions_networks = > smtpd_sasl_local_domain = > smtpd_sasl_path = smtpd > smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous > smtpd_sasl_service = smtp > smtpd_sasl_tls_security_options = $smtpd_sasl_security_options > smtpd_sasl_type = cyrus > > > But I cannot find any such file named smtpd.conf which, according to > the Postfix documentation, should exist and should contain: > > pwcheck_method: saslauthd > mech_list: PLAIN > > It appears to me that postfix is directly looking in > /usr/local/etc/sasldb2.db itself and, finding no entries, failing to > authenticate. How do I tell postfix to use the saslauthd daemon > instead? > You must create the file yourself and adjust it to whatever mech you use, in our case it is saslauthd: cat /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf pwcheck_method: saslauthd mech_list: plain login From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Tue Jul 3 22:49:27 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C09E01030BC1 for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 22:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.28]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca", Issuer "CA_HLL_ISSUER_2016" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68F99753DF for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 22:49:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTP id 769F362614; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:49:26 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at harte-lyne.ca Received: from inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VULLSBbXLMZJ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:49:23 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail.harte-lyne.ca (inet04.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca [216.185.71.24]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by inet08.hamilton.harte-lyne.ca (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DA04F6260F; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:49:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: from 216.185.71.22 (SquirrelMail authenticated user byrnejb_hll) by webmail.harte-lyne.ca with HTTP; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:49:23 -0400 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <0970ea44-1438-171a-4f44-221c4f9facd4@nethead.se> References: <523ffb82f14da9944a5368f28eddecac.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <0970ea44-1438-171a-4f44-221c4f9facd4@nethead.se> Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 18:49:23 -0400 Subject: Re: Postfix-sasl on FreeBSD will not authenticate From: "James B. Byrne" To: "Per olof Ljungmark" Cc: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca, freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Reply-To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.22-5.el6 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 22:49:28 -0000 On Tue, July 3, 2018 18:12, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: > > > On 07/03/18 22:39, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >> On server A we have cyrus-imapd running with spiped listening on >> TCP:143. On server B we have postfix-sasl-3.3.0 running with spiped >> listening on TCP:143 linked to server A. >> >> On server A saslauthd is configured in rc.conf to use rimap to the >> localhost: >> >> saslauthd_flags="-a rimap \ >> -O localhost" # Use Remote IMAP to authenticat >> >> Postfix is configured to use saslauth to authenticate outgoing >> senders: >> >> smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes >> smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = no >> smtpd_sasl_exceptions_networks = >> smtpd_sasl_local_domain = >> smtpd_sasl_path = smtpd >> smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous >> smtpd_sasl_service = smtp >> smtpd_sasl_tls_security_options = $smtpd_sasl_security_options >> smtpd_sasl_type = cyrus >> >> >> But I cannot find any such file named smtpd.conf which, according to >> the Postfix documentation, should exist and should contain: >> >> pwcheck_method: saslauthd >> mech_list: PLAIN >> >> It appears to me that postfix is directly looking in >> /usr/local/etc/sasldb2.db itself and, finding no entries, failing to >> authenticate. How do I tell postfix to use the saslauthd daemon >> instead? >> > > You must create the file yourself and adjust it to whatever mech you > use, in our case it is saslauthd: > > cat /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf > pwcheck_method: saslauthd > mech_list: plain login > Thank you. Do you know where the path to the file location is specified in the FreeBSD documentation? -- *** e-Mail is NOT a SECURE channel *** Do NOT transmit sensitive data via e-Mail Do NOT open attachments nor follow links sent by e-Mail James B. Byrne mailto:ByrneJB@Harte-Lyne.ca Harte & Lyne Limited http://www.harte-lyne.ca 9 Brockley Drive vox: +1 905 561 1241 Hamilton, Ontario fax: +1 905 561 0757 Canada L8E 3C3 From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 00:20:29 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1595103AD45 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 00:20:29 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from dnvrco-cmomta01.email.rr.com (dnvrco-outbound-snat.email.rr.com [107.14.73.229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "Client", Issuer "CA" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 316F779DA1 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 00:20:28 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from pschmehl_lists@tx.rr.com) Received: from [192.168.0.11] ([70.121.63.82]) by cmsmtp with ESMTPA id aVWrfgvgb5AwUaVWuf7deE; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 00:20:21 +0000 Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2018 19:20:16 -0500 From: Paul Schmehl Reply-To: Paul Schmehl To: Yasuhiro KIMURA , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Message-ID: <7C69EC140D74AE2EE6EAF5CF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> In-Reply-To: <20180702.044831.477271088854915236.yasu@utahime.org> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20180702.044831.477271088854915236.yasu@utahime.org> X-Mailer: Mulberry/4.0.8 (Mac OS X) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfFFsn880bAkv39lR6cGLddq/mSLgzs8mu05MzQodlB+ZdD7p0GpnJYHH2B2/3QzATglnRfmWoX1MTFjERC8bhCf7G4+p+4c53v082RfOPeYg94llGqkt 0p6sbq6w5DKnePyL96doxj8i0sCuwn8GxxJwrz3IMPoAjUwZbrasv6+FSLAoij6mgC1YlXoORTmVap9vMdJJsMX73lAR0naWCo3c/SJkMKzGqik4AyL+S9wK X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 00:20:29 -0000 --On July 2, 2018 at 4:48:31 AM +0900 Yasuhiro KIMURA wrote: > From: Paul Schmehl > Subject: Problem deleting files > Date: Sun, 01 Jul 2018 14:13:30 -0500 > >> I have a problem with a directory full of files that I can't seem to >> delete. >> >> rm * returns argument list too long. So does file * >> >> find . -type f -exec rm [] \; returns rm: []: No such file or >> directory over and over again. > > Try following command. > > find . -type f -print0 | xargs -0 rm -f > It took more than 24 hours, but the files are all gone. Thank you for the useful suggestion. Paul Schmehl, Retired As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those of my employer. ******************************************* "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them." George Orwell From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 01:12:23 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0401103EF65 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 01:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sales09@senokoenergy.com) Received: from mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (mailman.ysv.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::50:5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 783F27BF3E for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 01:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sales09@senokoenergy.com) Received: by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) id 32EA2103EF5F; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 01:12:22 +0000 (UTC) Delivered-To: questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E590103EF5C for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 01:12:22 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sales09@senokoenergy.com) Received: from rabbit-green-7d193066a6e91131.znlc.jp (rabbit-green-7d193066a6e91131.znlc.jp [210.250.248.59]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B7917BF30 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 01:12:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sales09@senokoenergy.com) Received: from terminal.heidedalkantoor.local (unknown [154.66.192.80]) by rabbit-green-7d193066a6e91131.znlc.jp (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A0922D0D9 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:11:26 +0900 (JST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Subject: Re: Kindly review and sign (SELLER's OFFER) To: questions@FreeBSD.org From: "Senoko Energy Pte Ltd." 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For more details, visit our Help Cen= ter or send a message to tos-questions@dropbox.com. = = = = = = =A9 2018 Dropbox Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 198011029B7C for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 03:54:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (jacobs.geeks.org [204.153.247.1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BED78832FC for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 03:54:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from merlyn@geeks.org) Received: from mail.geeks.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by after-clamsmtpd.geeks.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 58ACE11020B for ; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 22:54:24 -0500 (CDT) Received: by mail.geeks.org (Postfix, from userid 1003) id 3935311020A; Tue, 3 Jul 2018 22:54:24 -0500 (CDT) Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 22:54:24 -0500 From: Doug McIntyre To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Problem deleting files Message-ID: <20180704035424.GB74366@geeks.org> References: <85B4CFC22AC0CA70B917D42D@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> <20180702.044831.477271088854915236.yasu@utahime.org> <7C69EC140D74AE2EE6EAF5CF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <7C69EC140D74AE2EE6EAF5CF@Pauls-MacBook-Pro.local> User-Agent: Mutt/1.9.4 (2018-02-28) X-Virus-Scanned: ClamAV using ClamSMTP X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 03:54:26 -0000 On Tue, Jul 03, 2018 at 07:20:16PM -0500, Paul Schmehl wrote: > It took more than 24 hours, but the files are all gone. Thank you for the > useful suggestion. FWIW: those are PHP session files. PHP has no mechanism to auto remove them when done. If you filled up the disk with them (the last time I had to do that was only 27GB or so and took less than a minute, so I can't fathom how many you had), you'll probably want to make sure to setup a cron job to regularly clear them out, because it will happen again. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 04:50:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E50D0102E848 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 04:49:59 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.133]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AE0B85A39 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 04:49:58 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp118-210-20-47.bras1.adl4.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.20.47]) by ipmail01.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 04 Jul 2018 14:19:49 +0930 Subject: Re: Clang++ stdlib/cstdlib.h workaround To: Antonio Olivares , FreeBSD Questions References: From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 14:19:47 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 04:50:00 -0000 On 04/07/2018 04:08, Antonio Olivares wrote: > Dear kind folks, > > I have a cpp file that used stdlib.h and it compiled and ran successfully. > I am trying it out with clang and it returns errors that it cannot find > stdlib.h, I remove the stdlib.h include statement and it still complains. You can add -I as an argument that tells clang where to search for header files. -L does the same for libraries. Even when you remove it another included file may still want it. clang++ -I/usr/include -L/usr/lib -o myapp myfile.cpp > I made a copy of the c++ file and it compiles and runs correctly, but I > removed some stuff " --- " and only output the numbers. How do I deal with > stdlib.h requirements? > > The program finds numbers that are triangular and square. It fails for > numbers that are bigger than 2147483647. Does that number have any significance to you? It is the largest number that can be held by a 32bit signed integer. You can use an unsigned int to get twice that or you can use a long long to get a 64bit integer. Also related is that the math library functions have several variations that take different size arguments. -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 05:17:12 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A8001030B07 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 05:17:12 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) Received: from ns1.nethead.se (ns1.nethead.se [5.150.237.139]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "ns1.nethead.se", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1E5A8691E for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 05:17:10 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from peo@nethead.se) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at Nethead AB DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=nethead.se; s=NETHEADSE; t=1530681428; bh=J1lzL8I4LRK8RlG3V6sNY7pGbpr+GzPyZB42eZEf/eM=; h=Subject:To:Cc:References:From:Date:In-Reply-To; b=h7M5qaMPLU8Vx0EItAzueVc5ycwAnI5xBooAEC/BcnzhM5WLvz+Uq6/8IlRfJNJn5 0DBwRHn7POowMqQRXbU874myVEDadrdgpM72OzUPkOXBp824N7IDZIRECTLxMm1T1M rzEzMVSGHf+0RyQmwa3FnEsndxFw01DaLwpz58cI= Subject: Re: Postfix-sasl on FreeBSD will not authenticate To: byrnejb@harte-lyne.ca Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <523ffb82f14da9944a5368f28eddecac.squirrel@webmail.harte-lyne.ca> <0970ea44-1438-171a-4f44-221c4f9facd4@nethead.se> From: Per olof Ljungmark Message-ID: Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 07:17:06 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 05:17:12 -0000 On 07/04/18 00:49, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Tue, July 3, 2018 18:12, Per olof Ljungmark wrote: >> >> >> On 07/03/18 22:39, James B. Byrne via freebsd-questions wrote: >>> On server A we have cyrus-imapd running with spiped listening on >>> TCP:143. On server B we have postfix-sasl-3.3.0 running with spiped >>> listening on TCP:143 linked to server A. >>> >>> On server A saslauthd is configured in rc.conf to use rimap to the >>> localhost: >>> >>> saslauthd_flags="-a rimap \ >>> -O localhost" # Use Remote IMAP to authenticat >>> >>> Postfix is configured to use saslauth to authenticate outgoing >>> senders: >>> >>> smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes >>> smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = no >>> smtpd_sasl_exceptions_networks = >>> smtpd_sasl_local_domain = >>> smtpd_sasl_path = smtpd >>> smtpd_sasl_security_options = noanonymous >>> smtpd_sasl_service = smtp >>> smtpd_sasl_tls_security_options = $smtpd_sasl_security_options >>> smtpd_sasl_type = cyrus >>> >>> >>> But I cannot find any such file named smtpd.conf which, according to >>> the Postfix documentation, should exist and should contain: >>> >>> pwcheck_method: saslauthd >>> mech_list: PLAIN >>> >>> It appears to me that postfix is directly looking in >>> /usr/local/etc/sasldb2.db itself and, finding no entries, failing to >>> authenticate. How do I tell postfix to use the saslauthd daemon >>> instead? >>> >> >> You must create the file yourself and adjust it to whatever mech you >> use, in our case it is saslauthd: >> >> cat /usr/local/lib/sasl2/smtpd.conf >> pwcheck_method: saslauthd >> mech_list: plain login >> > > Thank you. Do you know where the path to the file location is > specified in the FreeBSD documentation? > Hm, don't think it is. The location is configurable in Postfix though. http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 08:11:19 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3B18E103F88A for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 08:11:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from soth.netfence.it (net-2-44-121-52.cust.vodafonedsl.it [2.44.121.52]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mailserver.netfence.it", Issuer "Let's Encrypt Authority X3" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9B3DF8D3D2 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 08:11:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) Received: from alamar.ventu (alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18]) (authenticated bits=0) by soth.netfence.it (8.15.2/8.15.2) with ESMTPSA id w6480ASE084522 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:00:20 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from ml@netfence.it) X-Authentication-Warning: soth.netfence.it: Host alamar.local.netfence.it [10.1.2.18] claimed to be alamar.ventu To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andrea Venturoli Subject: Disabling automatic zpool import Message-ID: <17f45113-f20f-d6b6-8c0a-159245b4ca2e@netfence.it> Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:00:10 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 08:11:19 -0000 Hello. I've got a box with a plain zroot pool and a second zpool (for data) which is based on two GELI providers. This allows me to let the machine boot and start basic services, so I can ssh into it and run a script which asks for a passphrase, enables encyption and gets my sensitive data back online. The script goes like: > ... > geli attach /dev/ada0p4 > geli attach /dev/ada1p4 > #zpool import zsecure > zfs mount -a As you can see, "zpool import" is commented, since it was never needed. This has always worked fine until I was on 11.1. After the upgrade to 11.2, however, the pool will somehow become active as soon as the first GELI provider comes up and will of course get into DEGRADED state. I later need to issue "zpool online zsecure /dev/ada1p4.eli" to get it back into shape. Is there any way I can forbid this? Any settings which gets the zroot pool automatically mounted on boot, but requires manual intervention to "import" other pools? bye & Thanks av. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 12:30:56 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24B22103090E for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:30:56 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x22a.google.com (mail-ua0-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AB3C0772B6 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:30:55 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x22a.google.com with SMTP id r18-v6so3326509ual.13 for ; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 05:30:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=rVT0DUf4Zwlbwjt9hJZ9vsja8sMd8I/QKpyIDcELH+Y=; b=QEeU9iw+cZn5v1I2t/inwtW1I3Mtwrc3plfDEpcAjlYz1GClUG/TGNyUYJhuDWTrGf Y3h6Bzka8rKUI1i2/N/LNtijF/Kfg3K5sBORtggOb+Ao2HNi89Y8Y3BanU/gd0o6ourl QOju6w4aGLm8ANTQLhC8h5/2ZU03r4ZusPTjYhpTeeuZtg9RJGp3Nxj4GwbTT52Eqkl4 enwnQi2fXYgqmJsh+NJNknTIsewZmLSUCkZsVUqXRlak93KxEMppNNinLA3BiKGbkisy 7Ylli1Dav1NQbpUYmjmEAE061ZhOPZBpMEU7SSp/s9RMIpLyn6GFlD4Lx/Y1pVSjH7sd yl/w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=rVT0DUf4Zwlbwjt9hJZ9vsja8sMd8I/QKpyIDcELH+Y=; b=Ab3lTifSaOQr4IOz0ZI1ik7BmCiCz04GcirLy9oQ+bQ1G75Rt27Yc2QJK6XjXboHkY h/v97JipP9+4eKE9SVJ44g87byh05VD5O1D973xvHlCmnKDjpMnaT8xSCNzFNJ6TawtL 6dCGwHel3x3u3n4O8AXhBjzp9Iq65pFiXqLKB7avuZ4zN1hoYdVn7ZIgVaSrTjGlRgTL XtqpcTU+EBLd6JWYWTZxco7C0aOi0s52u+YY7PtExeUHlx7S0n2eLc4Wdnd/zMr9PWtw 2nI8Wew7Vwa0mDpoP5+108lqGrvj8sKBXjcXWxM+N7EIr+ai8f8/F9J1Fx76nJ0ZN2DU t46Q== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3jzn5zjIniTzJ7LAjeJfut8Ii7G+hCsA0RVNGQYH4GaQzK3VE+ c65HvAczzUp5/ewZYYNz97m3ecYAXfS4aXm6sEI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpeJDJY+WXa8IedU4iHMo1Vm2i9b6TWpwdJGsknv1+vv10/HBn31ukgUQu1mXLtFUqzPl5+X8FUe7tkcz0G913c= X-Received: by 2002:a9f:3861:: with SMTP id q30-v6mr1043602uad.170.1530707454670; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 05:30:54 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:51c7:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 05:30:54 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: From: Antonio Olivares Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 07:30:54 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Clang++ stdlib/cstdlib.h workaround To: Shane Ambler Cc: FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 12:30:56 -0000 On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, Shane Ambler wrote: > On 04/07/2018 04:08, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> Dear kind folks, >> >> I have a cpp file that used stdlib.h and it compiled and ran successfully. >> I am trying it out with clang and it returns errors that it cannot find >> stdlib.h, I remove the stdlib.h include statement and it still complains. > > You can add -I as an argument that tells clang where to search for > header files. -L does the same for libraries. Even when you remove > it another included file may still want it. > > clang++ -I/usr/include -L/usr/lib -o myapp myfile.cpp > >> I made a copy of the c++ file and it compiles and runs correctly, but I >> removed some stuff " --- " and only output the numbers. How do I deal with >> stdlib.h requirements? >> >> The program finds numbers that are triangular and square. It fails for >> numbers that are bigger than 2147483647. > > Does that number have any significance to you? It is the largest number > that can be held by a 32bit signed integer. You can use an unsigned int > to get twice that or you can use a long long to get a 64bit integer. > > Also related is that the math library functions have several variations > that take different size arguments. > > -- > FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing > > Shane Ambler > > Shane, Thanks for your input. For the moment I have removed the header file #include >From the c++ program. In a for loop part, I had a set of statements to output the values where the number was a triangular and square at the same time in two lines. This was where the program was failing to compile and I was concluding incorrectly that it had to do with the stdlib.h or cstdlib.h file. #include #include using namespace std; int main() { int i; int n; int k; cout << "This program searches for numbers that\n"; cout << "are both square and triangular\n"; cout << "Up to what number do you want to search?\n\n"; cout << "Enter number: "; cin >> n; for (i=1; i Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B3A9D1041E04 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 15:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from mx6-out12.antispamcloud.com (mx6-out12.antispamcloud.com [95.211.2.203]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D67582774 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 15:24:21 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com) Received: from [153.92.8.106] (helo=srv31.niagahoster.com) by mx61.antispamcloud.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1fajdS-0002gN-Kp; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:24:19 +0200 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sumeritec.com; s=default; h=Content-Transfer-Encoding:Content-Type: MIME-Version:References:In-Reply-To:Message-ID:Subject:Cc:To:From:Date:Sender :Reply-To:Content-ID:Content-Description:Resent-Date:Resent-From: Resent-Sender:Resent-To:Resent-Cc:Resent-Message-ID:List-Id:List-Help: List-Unsubscribe:List-Subscribe:List-Post:List-Owner:List-Archive; bh=s5E4i+a5wExtZHrKyEIJdIDEOWvvlgOe7YjlRm0I354=; b=QvwR/sxqhNR8EUemw/UX5piBmG sM1UFrBHUtItieTwX6Hw20A0fIsYd4iW/4+C1YdeXVyCixX+rvW86B0cQSFOMXKcu/d1339vUkurj 1QiIbJwxp7EKe46n0PG+9zed7Kw3FawJvo2aazgvDs4bQa1vcpb1kitQxEqJmmhm1nVqymsR077BY RKtdXQ7f5UEzfrMMW3vFZ708EItgQtRRBPDs+YdNtyCNGehImGt9QK4ATjC3xwIyb0CP7i3ENBkzz GTG5mmp6zRAKcWsht6nzZP/xBDaqxQ8KtWg2isdaOQsEaxYCfzGTBFCI1jwB/1ENqTIMwPcH/+dA/ 83eTQyYQ==; Received: from [114.125.69.123] (port=30544 helo=X220.sumeritec.com) by srv31.niagahoster.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1.2:ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384:256) (Exim 4.89_1) (envelope-from ) id 1fajce-00078H-Cg; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 22:23:14 +0700 Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 23:23:06 +0800 From: Erich Dollansky To: Antonio Olivares Cc: Shane Ambler , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Clang++ stdlib/cstdlib.h workaround Message-ID: <20180704232306.2bacb554.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OutGoing-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.0 X-AuthUser: freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com X-Originating-IP: 153.92.8.106 X-AntiSpamCloud-Domain: out.niagahoster.com X-AntiSpamCloud-Username: niaga Authentication-Results: antispamcloud.com; auth=pass (login) smtp.auth=niaga@out.niagahoster.com X-AntiSpamCloud-Outgoing-Class: unsure X-AntiSpamCloud-Outgoing-Evidence: Combined (0.10) X-Recommended-Action: accept X-Filter-ID: EX5BVjFpneJeBchSMxfU5i8V2x6ljFlCMOfArP1sChR602E9L7XzfQH6nu9C/Fh9KJzpNe6xgvOx q3u0UDjvOx2dVNWBRVUzRx60rOHlns+Gm5Z86X4jmT8O7iuIt4i5lVo9zfgzQ4Wlm3+W3UHOX6JZ ruoRNHaulnIAqlhp6YVBpc/AiUjjK788fU1YN0ZFk1sEJwpgGLyg76C3Jcd9P5OYc1anEUIqQeej nbkWcSoRqtOFpZohrPLn64aMQ2DoTAas0edmB2q/yBRqnQY9Wkt3BzD3BTj2qquUN54CizQKmpTP FmEY0niLKkErNSWus8GP9UgT9a22OWfiUN6bqZOK6PpPPiLnZK0jPrVxfycg3cVota3cKdsOcerV 9q18Zn7XXccg9Uaw0uhz0CH6MTAs69FQbooXBmqDtpFld10K+paULmhXyxhOd6sZlmy0OGAefTcE RFakkrUayQpLFru2rhkTlD65vXTMsAKimKUP5KipH16fIljttSwUP0q2fJomEqwEsvuvXyGt8Jcf F1dA/UCQxPI+NFNfQy+MZTMIu3zHZhuDpvEr2AhNHHAWB6pNpHw8EKmGmLtc7rF6sXMcN6qoXPje nLhIOF1oeRbWn1CyIILkGMCK/EIn/FNRB9mK1b6vjahxTVxTgG9igYTYkTNcfiQdw6WJ3Z/uhXTU dEfK7XdrX2ttxSXKRAmtVNDcv5QcUX/cy4OLwdTYxRWFYPrLiCC/4gHlzz2eFPJRlLv5tfrZTcJH 6TWlJuhlQIlUDevGHwCXpy3PIzbYfP3LNwExj1Dp4i7h/8ovBqVPYuXyLSgrjLvmIVBvINgs+SlL XTZ0BU4h+6wD+VPOxsOpyKA69LF1Ge2GaGfxmfpZhGYn1felPnypz/POhyEtyhz8Z4YUINJ56g5S NhsDfz+YTE/gO/f1EMUoFiGmxKZrwytzyq4nhu0+m3/YUu4UozDPerFe3XF8pk/wYfyBBAsTs/Ec BRNNYHSONaQHvWNsXsBHdaTCYGpDsBoC9nle9jihx+Za/cV70jOJzN2r4A== X-Report-Abuse-To: spam@quarantine1.antispamcloud.com X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 15:24:22 -0000 Hi, On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 07:30:54 -0500 Antonio Olivares wrote: > On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, Shane Ambler wrote: > > On 04/07/2018 04:08, Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> Dear kind folks, > >> > Thanks for your input. For the moment I have removed the header file > > #include is this just a typing error or is this the cause? Erich From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Wed Jul 4 17:26:14 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D65261026CA8 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: from mail-ua0-x243.google.com (mail-ua0-x243.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:400c:c08::243]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 39BD489026 for ; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 17:26:13 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from olivares14031@gmail.com) Received: by mail-ua0-x243.google.com with SMTP id z4-v6so3848265uao.12 for ; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 10:26:13 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=jTvPKIwziH5HfvH+/XInI7EGt0x5rYlnudmJx4vdiuc=; b=veWREvVs6auj3Ceff/AHZOf4+6aosyMPPyalry0NqGG+mkO1J9b8WtsjiDQNXrAsPF Q8Z6CxfivOl/6VOYRyrEl8WP41mUFbPY7Ot+q9I+IIKth/nlDSFwkwy+5IP+0r21cUvt ZDrZ/j+AL+FYG7hTYzMN6MPTSsbzaloB6D0UX8g+4ZCXDwuyh4gtEh/aX02/C3WlV/jl PPGdzABrBgdovHtaoNHN/LqTHX87QjizUqrOM5BUDAgn7+yYywV/twdSLSFlhI3TYT7v t4NijPLvEbwYtlPJr6U61cR0UJUP+AlLbzASxBtvujFCRqwO4aL3Ud8Rq+32KcZGo8b1 Lwpw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=jTvPKIwziH5HfvH+/XInI7EGt0x5rYlnudmJx4vdiuc=; b=kJaxxc+JKPkHw3KzEJHgofEZZ76UzZIQ8ggepNk+iQPsCr4JSg1XoH/Uf9eH0/evtc uN5yogwFFWZtZfQ9A2I6PGEhHTUUDWgKSuQFnlIBJ7/QxmcQ4y6tP7+OrRdRN64M047+ IQ/WGHbD8JQWhmvbj9HBnc7OZLKXU50f/sPwZ8TblntP5k6eX9Mx4TZ+IWiJRhUXPvAF CzSsLEVXFrGOigVw+1AUFCOYXQnLdE41p3EqkJa8/IF/suCgrOwrB+moo4to1UYhcvcZ WU4eiD/UKAj+RWdsblyTFgZWqWSw5dqZV1XuzXxh5F3yEG7WrmvF6qKYf0TJCgQVWlZp l3eA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3P95M1wG6Pcs0938qWCHIZtz8sk5/xGj+RCyXEFaBgXeTUOC/X YdahOk7MSSLD/XrAvVMJN0cM/hJY34Aw+Uk1XV8= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpe+X9j1OmZKZlLT5sR1MNPob//YGod53Tsx9mI3P4zbpfc9X2ziqhY5puRe8qXgWECyeQPriRAUHWv1MuzJKdk= X-Received: by 2002:ab0:9e2:: with SMTP id e34-v6mr1812754uah.166.1530725171253; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 10:26:11 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:ab0:51c7:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Wed, 4 Jul 2018 10:26:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20180704232306.2bacb554.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> References: <20180704232306.2bacb554.freebsd.ed.lists@sumeritec.com> From: Antonio Olivares Date: Wed, 4 Jul 2018 12:26:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: Clang++ stdlib/cstdlib.h workaround To: Erich Dollansky Cc: Shane Ambler , FreeBSD Questions Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2018 17:26:14 -0000 On Wednesday, July 4, 2018, Erich Dollansky wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, 4 Jul 2018 07:30:54 -0500 > Antonio Olivares wrote: > >> On Tuesday, July 3, 2018, Shane Ambler wrote: >> > On 04/07/2018 04:08, Antonio Olivares wrote: >> >> Dear kind folks, >> >> >> Thanks for your input. For the moment I have removed the header file >> >> #include > > is this just a typing error or is this the cause? > > Erich > Typing error! It should be ``#include '' Or ``#include '' And some variations omit the ".h" part. I had a cout statement in two lines and I always got error message. Once I joined the statements to a single line the program compiled successfully. Best Regards, Antonio From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 5 06:41:20 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCF03102A129 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 06:41:20 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net (ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net [150.101.137.129]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0F8008B855 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 06:41:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from FreeBSD@shaneware.biz) Received: from ppp118-210-121-146.bras2.adl4.internode.on.net (HELO leader.local) ([118.210.121.146]) by ipmail06.adl2.internode.on.net with ESMTP; 05 Jul 2018 16:06:09 +0930 Subject: Re: Clang++ stdlib/cstdlib.h workaround To: Antonio Olivares Cc: FreeBSD Questions References: From: Shane Ambler Message-ID: <2b656396-f201-3abe-0bbe-d9a127ae5d39@ShaneWare.Biz> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 16:06:07 +0930 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-AU Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 06:41:21 -0000 On 04/07/2018 22:00, Antonio Olivares wrote: > About the big number, it would be nice to get it working for bigger > numbers, but I would need to run it on amd64 freebsd machine at work. > Maybe at some other time we can revisit this issue. Thank you for your > assistance. You don't need a 64bit machine to use 64bit ints but you do need to use a recent C/C++ standard, long long was introduced in C99 and C++11. That is, if you have an issue with long long add -std=c++11 to your CXXFLAGS. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integer_(computer_science)#Long_long There is also a long double https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_double Try it - #include int main() { printf("sizeof long long - %lu\n",sizeof(long long)); printf("sizeof long double - %lu\n",sizeof(long double)); return 0; } -- FreeBSD - the place to B...Software Developing Shane Ambler From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 5 07:49:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4598B103025B for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 07:49:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from info@techydesigner.website) Received: from server66-1.web-hosting.com (server66-1.web-hosting.com [198.54.114.249]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CEF1B8E076 for ; 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Thu, 05 Jul 2018 16:23:01 +0000 (UTC) To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org From: Andreas Drewke Subject: Windows via bhyve@FreeBSD11.1 Message-ID: <3d1cb33e-6081-c98f-d0c5-184a212e2383@drewke.net> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 18:22:40 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 16:39:14 -0000 Hi, I am a fulltime FreeBSD user now for a few months and do mostly game related software development next to emailing, web browsing and such... But now I need a build environment of my stuff for Windows and Linux. As I do not have dedicated machines for that I would prefer VMs inside FreeBSD for that to not to reboot each time I want to have a build. So I tried to do virtualisation of Windows 10 with bhyve@FreeBSD 11.1. First I tried with VirtualBox but this was not a stable solution. The VM would hang when compiling. Data have been lost and such. I followed those both tutorial - https://www.ateamsystems.com/tech-blog/howto-windows-10-bhyve-w-freebsd-11/ - https://wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve/Windows and came up with the following cmd to launch a Win 10 installation VM session |bhyve \ | |-c 2 \ -s 0,hostbridge \ -s 3,ahci-hd,"/home/andreas/Virtual Machines/BuildVM-Win10-x64.img" \ -s 4,ahci-cd,"/home/andreas/Downloads/Win10_1803_German_x64.iso" \ -s 10,virtio-net,tap0 \ -s 29,fbuf,tcp=0.0.0.0:5900,wait \ -s 30,xhci,tablet \ -s 31,lpc \ -l com1,stdio \ -l bootrom,/usr/local/share/uefi-firmware/BHYVE_UEFI.fd \ -m 2G -H -w \ BuildVM-Win10-x64| I also tryed Win7, Win8.1. I also tryed to remaster Win7 DVD and such. But I always get: |Boot Failed. EFI DVD/CDROM Boot Failed. EFI Hard Drive| I also wonder why I need to run the command as root. "uname -a" tells |FreeBSD andreas-desktop 11.1-RELEASE-p10 FreeBSD 11.1-RELEASE-p10 #0: Tue May 8 05:21:56 UTC 2018 root@amd64-builder.daemonology.net:/usr/obj/usr/src/sys/GENERIC amd64| "dmesg" tells: |CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 1700 Eight-Core Processor (2994.46-MHz K8-class CPU) Origin="AuthenticAMD" Id=0x800f11 Family=0x17 Model=0x1 Stepping=1 Features=0x178bfbff Features2=0x7ed8320b AMD Features=0x2e500800 AMD Features2=0x35c233ff Structured Extended Features=0x209c01a9 XSAVE Features=0xf SVM: NP,NRIP,VClean,AFlush,DAssist,NAsids=32768 TSC: P-state invariant, performance statistics| Any hints are highly appreciated. Many thanx and Best regards Andreas From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Thu Jul 5 18:24:17 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F3E4104536C for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 18:24:17 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreas@drewke.net) Received: from mailrelay3-3.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (mailrelay3-3.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com [46.30.212.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B76A88E944 for ; Thu, 5 Jul 2018 18:24:16 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from andreas@drewke.net) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=drewke.net; s=20140924; h=from:subject:date:message-id:to:mime-version:content-type:in-reply-to: references; bh=9Pj944hMXVV2tx+L7ZqS+lbBzJyK1Ks8/kTbZVzRJW8=; b=KJc0UtblRbA6hWWqq2y8zZWD4fzO+w5j9Nrmb9P4VRHEEYn312bY8+dK0tdZzRNj8UuWmWazn1NE/ bEHXTM+RqXFfBqv4gxSosPlCT0/K5nowLOOYYYir0pWOcEkWkBgp1TofCdhm5SrO4RBk5XZdIU32da ZA1hMHDDFCQodoTY= X-HalOne-Cookie: f028a24d810f10c3407acda8d4371b3c5525ef65 X-HalOne-ID: 5d0f0c2a-807e-11e8-80b5-d0431ea8bb03 Received: from [192.168.178.86] (unknown [87.123.150.4]) by mailrelay3.pub.mailoutpod1-cph3.one.com (Halon) with ESMTPSA id 5d0f0c2a-807e-11e8-80b5-d0431ea8bb03; Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:08:05 +0000 (UTC) Subject: Re: Windows via bhyve@FreeBSD11.1 From: Andreas Drewke To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <3d1cb33e-6081-c98f-d0c5-184a212e2383@drewke.net> Message-ID: <90438094-ec29-8d45-d598-862097fb3e18@drewke.net> Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 20:07:44 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <3d1cb33e-6081-c98f-d0c5-184a212e2383@drewke.net> Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 05 Jul 2018 18:24:17 -0000 Hi, I got it. I had 2 problems. - First I did not see anything as I was connecting with freerdp which does not work. Using vncviewer indeed does. - But I need to press quickly a key after connecting with vncviewer in the window I started the bhyve or in the vnc viewer. Not 100% sure here. (Also order of drives seem to be important, haveing cd first worked for me, having cd as second did not, this was a hint on bsdforen.de) Now my windows does install. I am super curios. Using "vncviewer" is worth a note in a blog or documentation I think. Spend like 8+ hours to find out how to boot a Windows 7/8.1,10 in bhyve under FBSD. Many thanx. Best regards Andreas On 07/05/18 18:22, Andreas Drewke wrote:Hi, > > Hi, > > I am a fulltime FreeBSD user now for a few months and do mostly game > related software development next to emailing, web browsing and such... > > But now I need a build environment of my stuff for Windows and Linux. > As I do not have dedicated machines for that I would prefer VMs inside > FreeBSD for that to not to reboot each time I want to have a build. > > So I tried to do virtualisation of Windows 10 with bhyve@FreeBSD 11.1. > First I tried with VirtualBox but this was not a stable solution. The > VM would hang when compiling. Data have been lost and such. > > I followed those both tutorial > - > https://www.ateamsystems.com/tech-blog/howto-windows-10-bhyve-w-freebsd-11/ > - https://wiki.freebsd.org/bhyve/Windows > > and came up with the following cmd to launch a Win 10 installation VM > session > > |bhyve \ | > |-c 2 \ -s 0,hostbridge \ -s 3,ahci-hd,"/home/andreas/Virtual > Machines/BuildVM-Win10-x64.img" \ -s > 4,ahci-cd,"/home/andreas/Downloads/Win10_1803_German_x64.iso" \ -s > 10,virtio-net,tap0 \ -s 29,fbuf,tcp=0.0.0.0:5900,wait \ -s > 30,xhci,tablet \ -s 31,lpc \ -l com1,stdio \ -l > bootrom,/usr/local/share/uefi-firmware/BHYVE_UEFI.fd \ -m 2G -H -w \ > BuildVM-Win10-x64| > I also tryed Win7, Win8.1. I also tryed to remaster Win7 DVD and such. > > But I always get: > > |Boot Failed. EFI DVD/CDROM Boot Failed. 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Just for opinions on this list, I am forwarding that request underneath. Tx Manish Jain -------- Forwarded Message -------- Subject: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 11:29:55 +0530 From: Manish Jain To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org Hi all, I am a longtime user of FreeBSD, which now serves as my only OS. There is one request I wished to make for FreeBSD filesystems. While UFS implementation under GPT is unnested just as Ext2, the MBR implementation of UFS continues to piggyback on an unnecessary nest (in a BSD slice). Can it not be considered as an alternative to provide a UFS partition (unnested) under MBR too ? Existing users could continue to use the freebsd::freebsd-ufs scheme, while fresh usage could have the alternative of UFS directly recorded in the MBR. I should perhaps note that unlike most users who have shifted to GPT of late, I much prefer MBR because 1) the scheme's design by itself keeps the number of slices/partitions in a disk manageable; and 2) I can use the boot0 manager, my favourite boot manager. Thanks for reading this. Manish Jain _______________________________________________ freebsd-fs@freebsd.org mailing list https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-fs To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-fs-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 7 21:46:52 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C57FC102ED03 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 21:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wr1-x436.google.com (mail-wr1-x436.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::436]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48D388DE48 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 21:46:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wr1-x436.google.com with SMTP id r16-v6so7255065wrt.11 for ; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 14:46:52 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=CnQZScDA+aFLcYCs+AOpOtd/yXyglA+WUWbscR26KAk=; b=dTnq/zC061X6yFNL4pNOdH+0Z/9HRJrHZQxbywwKEcv8Sg1pRvopBLlEIU6kCAYoFJ z0U3s36Rt/pld1tgNx84zpxMKA6XZ3ei1i7pNvhoLCBJIZWkkzMTA08ACFvzZplBmJga YM4G6fijEXo9B/SLuWLYgzGvdtWPZ8KprKqRplcWom35pHkeXbugNuKmbNWhlB7LmKoT xY2j+yteZDUQtaBtOdV8DNwZclu7nwg+qasT1R89IcGHw8IiJCuFkkw5L8h4aWrOi7H8 U4roBp/40tOq3gWWRYd3OxKgzG66GyvDLEDlUmYFbJlWQT5CCDGTNNszsi0qLgVMnzGw kZWA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1m2RBpZz+bYJyFRZ91gIyDo4zUyDzQe1ZZfEv2tvBd0bSz8hFa lxRF1oJ7W3JZ/u4IpoSreS+hqg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcuY/01/tK85I3hQbGs/zVI/lEUoPOpcBtBrdd5VewgBKFGO/GW8TsXg4+oiaTbnRXDqaWA1A== X-Received: by 2002:adf:ecc6:: with SMTP id s6-v6mr11519091wro.160.1531000010755; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 14:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.222.27.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 38-v6sm2699397wrm.15.2018.07.07.14.46.49 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 07 Jul 2018 14:46:50 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:46:48 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR Message-ID: <20180707224648.5187be22@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: References: <98201d37-2d65-34c6-969e-c9649f1a3ab1@yandex.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 21:46:53 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:20:56 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: > Hi, > > I made a request for FreeBSD UFS filesystem to the freebsd-fs list. > Just for opinions on this list, I am forwarding that request > underneath. > > Tx > Manish Jain > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > Subject: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR > Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 11:29:55 +0530 > From: Manish Jain > To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org > > Hi all, > > I am a longtime user of FreeBSD, which now serves as my only OS. > > There is one request I wished to make for FreeBSD filesystems. While > UFS implementation under GPT is unnested just as Ext2, the MBR > implementation of UFS continues to piggyback on an unnecessary nest > (in a BSD slice). > > Can it not be considered as an alternative to provide a UFS partition > (unnested) under MBR too ? You can put UFS on an MBR partition if you want to. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 7 22:00:46 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F6D8103014F for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:00:46 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward105j.mail.yandex.net (forward105j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801:2::108]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CDED28E6E8 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:00:45 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback17j.mail.yandex.net (mxback17j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1619::93]) by forward105j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 85B2A181739; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 01:00:34 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (smtp3o.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::27]) by mxback17j.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id zqdMoLWete-0YS4JM1c; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:00:34 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1531000834; bh=rScwrN0adjivUYowgBh+iU76OKn0vO7BXydbBpVjgmU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=GClyHY3o0Gl27ED3YH2m9d/nkQaAXm2RAlI/L6L/EXD4oIv+AWElwxWuhUSFBAJe5 eNcnYdjSAvBlzBZMdkDlcrq7qbVKtqp7NHkfPPLhABE1rI4KNLceqljWz39YF7E6KZ JbW+YRszQ64dcXFCM16fUV+3o6VYa1IiUHIYc8C8= Received: by smtp3o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id UwyHo4LRQz-0W18KpgM; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:00:33 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1531000834; bh=rScwrN0adjivUYowgBh+iU76OKn0vO7BXydbBpVjgmU=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=GClyHY3o0Gl27ED3YH2m9d/nkQaAXm2RAlI/L6L/EXD4oIv+AWElwxWuhUSFBAJe5 eNcnYdjSAvBlzBZMdkDlcrq7qbVKtqp7NHkfPPLhABE1rI4KNLceqljWz39YF7E6KZ JbW+YRszQ64dcXFCM16fUV+3o6VYa1IiUHIYc8C8= Authentication-Results: smtp3o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR To: RW , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <98201d37-2d65-34c6-969e-c9649f1a3ab1@yandex.com> <20180707224648.5187be22@gumby.homeunix.com> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <0753eec0-674f-842f-2dae-c8405b004dc1@yandex.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 03:28:30 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180707224648.5187be22@gumby.homeunix.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:00:46 -0000 On 07/08/18 03:16, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:20:56 +0530 > Manish Jain wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> I made a request for FreeBSD UFS filesystem to the freebsd-fs list. >> Just for opinions on this list, I am forwarding that request >> underneath. >> >> Tx >> Manish Jain >> >> >> -------- Forwarded Message -------- >> Subject: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR >> Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2018 11:29:55 +0530 >> From: Manish Jain >> To: freebsd-fs@freebsd.org >> >> Hi all, >> >> I am a longtime user of FreeBSD, which now serves as my only OS. >> >> There is one request I wished to make for FreeBSD filesystems. While >> UFS implementation under GPT is unnested just as Ext2, the MBR >> implementation of UFS continues to piggyback on an unnecessary nest >> (in a BSD slice). >> >> Can it not be considered as an alternative to provide a UFS partition >> (unnested) under MBR too ? > > You can put UFS on an MBR partition if you want to. How ? Can you give me the gpart command for that ? Remember, the command must put the UFS partition directly into the MBR. Not first into a BSD nest. Tx MJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 7 22:08:00 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A7A801030C06 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward100p.mail.yandex.net (forward100p.mail.yandex.net [77.88.28.100]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 19FB08EBFF for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:08:00 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback1o.mail.yandex.net (mxback1o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::1b]) by forward100p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 7A5E05102726 for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 01:07:57 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (smtp2o.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::26]) by mxback1o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id qzHSvkVDLK-7vFq95F8; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:07:57 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1531001277; bh=+2OPgTxVGEK2p/AM/+Z/2X/UC71//QgseRAkTVLpMLE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=g/Lftg9wTwfTJVxHMS9A/K1e32/PgwG3oubOaBCKpaINOxksQeC2dUgAdsAOnM1Zo gWtdHJklci9yYk2FKeY21ueUIfgXYvtkwli0VdL9oEndXwt70BJ7radXns3SogM/m2 hcJtqZ2B0cgfNLsE0dEGG7SeYm1brU9c6HBnNI5A= Received: by smtp2o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id pKMLAWVAN8-7tUOiiE3; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:07:56 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1531001276; bh=+2OPgTxVGEK2p/AM/+Z/2X/UC71//QgseRAkTVLpMLE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=G0UjOkTic08I5nOgNAa0rjRr8+ujzLp36cbwvHVABgOpI6wb5Td/t+qo4qSM9qfxg wwdynSGvTWvY/uHFX7DRtAfYRePyVEm976l5Zd2PJ4SZR0Q/0XTt4gQnHgNvMwNPOU TH/1untN41JGmKxCrQqvIc0TfXJNdX9SsWf+fWPA= Authentication-Results: smtp2o.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: Fwd: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR To: FreeBSD Questions References: <98201d37-2d65-34c6-969e-c9649f1a3ab1@yandex.com> <20180707231908.65a2e973.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <80a0caea-b0fa-73b4-a679-4bda773edeb1@yandex.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 03:35:53 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180707231908.65a2e973.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:08:01 -0000 On 07/08/18 02:49, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:20:56 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> I made a request for FreeBSD UFS filesystem to the freebsd-fs list. Just >> for opinions on this list, I am forwarding that request underneath. > > I'm not subscribed to that list, so I will answer directly. > > > >> There is one request I wished to make for FreeBSD filesystems. While UFS >> implementation under GPT is unnested just as Ext2, the MBR >> implementation of UFS continues to piggyback on an unnecessary nest (in >> a BSD slice). > > The idea to _not_ use a slice is called "dedicated", because > it's specific to the BSDs and usually cannot be processed > with Linux, DOS, or "Windows". In thos approach, there is > no MBR involved. > > > >> Can it not be considered as an alternative to provide a UFS partition >> (unnested) under MBR too ? > > This is not possible. MBR _requires_ slices. Keep in mind: > MBR = Master Boot Record, which is a "DOS invention", and > what FreeBSD calls a slice is in fact a "DOS primary partition". > So MBR requires it, as it can only have two kinds of entries: > "DOS primary partition" and "DOS extended partition", which > is able to carry "logical volumes insinde an extended partition". > > As an MBR entry _must_ be a slice, the idea of FreeBSD partitions > (disklabel-style partitions) inside that slice is the only way > to properly create FreeBSD partitions on a DOS-compatible system. > > Keep in mind: If you don't run "Windows" or Linux, you don't > need MBR at all. On FreeBSD-only systems, I usually create > the partitions directly on the device, so instead of ada0s1a > I have ada0a, and "whole devices", represented with the letter c > )which equals no partition letter at all) can also be used > as data disks (boot disks require an a partition), so for > example instead of ada1s1c, I just hava ada1. > > > >> Existing users could continue to use the freebsd::freebsd-ufs scheme, >> while fresh usage could have the alternative of UFS directly recorded in >> the MBR. > > That is not possible. MBR doesn't support this. Again: A MBR > entry _must be_ a slice ("DOS primary partition") which can > have a non-DOS type, which for FreeBSD is "sysid 165 (0xa5), > (FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)"). > > > >> I should perhaps note that unlike most users who have shifted to GPT of >> late, I much prefer MBR because 1) the scheme's design by itself keeps >> the number of slices/partitions in a disk manageable; and 2) I can use >> the boot0 manager, my favourite boot manager. > > People tend to prefer GPT because it's easier to deal with > partitions. More than 4 are allowed, and if you need more > than 4 on MBR, it's going to be complicated and annoying > (extended partitioning required). > > Boot managers, on the other hand, like boot0, are only used > on multi-OS systems. This again requires the use of MBR > because Linux and especially "Windows" can hardly coexist > with FreeBSD on a system that has no slices at all, for > the simple reason that "Windows" requires them for its own > existence. Hi Poly / others, Your answer turns my proposition on its heads. I never suggested doing away with MBR. I suggested doing away with the BSD schema that nests the UFS partition. If that had not been possible, UFS would not have been possible under GPT. What I am suggesting is an option for UFS under MBR just as it is under GPT - unnested. Why is nesting considered a necessity, or even a desirable feature when MBR has an EBR slice dedicated to any auxiliary filesystems that might be needed ? The BSD schema could only be justified for times when MBR had no subdivisible slice. At least now MBR has that slice, so why not use it as such and use UFS just like Ext2 in this regard ? Tx MJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 7 22:22:24 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 180131031F91 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:22:24 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward104p.mail.yandex.net (forward104p.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:107]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9049F8F4DC for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:22:23 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback8o.mail.yandex.net (mxback8o.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1a2d::22]) by forward104p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 8EA381820B2; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 01:22:13 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (smtp3p.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b6:8]) by mxback8o.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id rIc5BE6Wqu-MDKa8Lvx; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:22:13 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1531002133; bh=pRWGDXQkx9fdue/MW0KE4Ft7rm5/kR0NTSeMYXTZAKo=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=In/jpRAB+am32Ug/D1hfYC8bJGHNJUIeAva1U6Urk1r6TzEBAdv+vqW5XntWjqm9+ 0yb2aj9/Uv2rjqXqFqhjQFewRyP+JnwYXvVyHfKoAafq5re+UYYSrgL7USwf2fBBEi Bnasz9/eCGflPhAuG5BKLRJ3HaZrse0CdV4m914U= Received: by smtp3p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id pqeoxUZIqV-MBRiu0hc; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:22:12 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1531002132; bh=pRWGDXQkx9fdue/MW0KE4Ft7rm5/kR0NTSeMYXTZAKo=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=Xe3xvJXttjfyj15+bEChdYBiSEEIMGD/PC/LRJLg8++tEnZpP55qwYCrKdwjnMUPn 4awIhSFVOWfYPqBHLw+cPkiNS9/5v6v6LTiPArOcBzXd1wsiFJETXw/ZleDcAuJcsG /LeaU+41fKO6Fem3FSmHPCJJv8DUynV12yE/5hyE= Authentication-Results: smtp3p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: Fwd: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR To: Polytropon , FreeBSD Questions References: <98201d37-2d65-34c6-969e-c9649f1a3ab1@yandex.com> <20180707231908.65a2e973.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180708001336.4097d20e.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <6bbfdaad-6872-1a6b-f176-471e57ac8d0a@yandex.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 03:50:09 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180708001336.4097d20e.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:22:24 -0000 On 07/08/18 03:43, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 03:25:46 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> On 07/08/18 02:49, Polytropon wrote: >>> On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:20:56 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >>>> I made a request for FreeBSD UFS filesystem to the freebsd-fs list. Just >>>> for opinions on this list, I am forwarding that request underneath. >>> >>> I'm not subscribed to that list, so I will answer directly. >>> >>> >>> >>>> There is one request I wished to make for FreeBSD filesystems. While UFS >>>> implementation under GPT is unnested just as Ext2, the MBR >>>> implementation of UFS continues to piggyback on an unnecessary nest (in >>>> a BSD slice). >>> >>> The idea to _not_ use a slice is called "dedicated", because >>> it's specific to the BSDs and usually cannot be processed >>> with Linux, DOS, or "Windows". In thos approach, there is >>> no MBR involved. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Can it not be considered as an alternative to provide a UFS partition >>>> (unnested) under MBR too ? >>> >>> This is not possible. MBR _requires_ slices. Keep in mind: >>> MBR = Master Boot Record, which is a "DOS invention", and >>> what FreeBSD calls a slice is in fact a "DOS primary partition". >>> So MBR requires it, as it can only have two kinds of entries: >>> "DOS primary partition" and "DOS extended partition", which >>> is able to carry "logical volumes insinde an extended partition". >>> >>> As an MBR entry _must_ be a slice, the idea of FreeBSD partitions >>> (disklabel-style partitions) inside that slice is the only way >>> to properly create FreeBSD partitions on a DOS-compatible system. >>> >>> Keep in mind: If you don't run "Windows" or Linux, you don't >>> need MBR at all. On FreeBSD-only systems, I usually create >>> the partitions directly on the device, so instead of ada0s1a >>> I have ada0a, and "whole devices", represented with the letter c >>> )which equals no partition letter at all) can also be used >>> as data disks (boot disks require an a partition), so for >>> example instead of ada1s1c, I just hava ada1. >>> >>> >>> >>>> Existing users could continue to use the freebsd::freebsd-ufs scheme, >>>> while fresh usage could have the alternative of UFS directly recorded in >>>> the MBR. >>> >>> That is not possible. MBR doesn't support this. Again: A MBR >>> entry _must be_ a slice ("DOS primary partition") which can >>> have a non-DOS type, which for FreeBSD is "sysid 165 (0xa5), >>> (FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)"). >>> >>> >>> >>>> I should perhaps note that unlike most users who have shifted to GPT of >>>> late, I much prefer MBR because 1) the scheme's design by itself keeps >>>> the number of slices/partitions in a disk manageable; and 2) I can use >>>> the boot0 manager, my favourite boot manager. >>> >>> People tend to prefer GPT because it's easier to deal with >>> partitions. More than 4 are allowed, and if you need more >>> than 4 on MBR, it's going to be complicated and annoying >>> (extended partitioning required). >>> >>> Boot managers, on the other hand, like boot0, are only used >>> on multi-OS systems. This again requires the use of MBR >>> because Linux and especially "Windows" can hardly coexist >>> with FreeBSD on a system that has no slices at all, for >>> the simple reason that "Windows" requires them for its own >>> existence. >> >> >> Hi Poly / others, >> >> Your answer turns my proposition on its heads. I never suggested doing >> away with MBR. I suggested doing away with the BSD schema that nests the >> UFS partition. > > You can format a whole slice ("DOS primary partition") > with the implicit BSD label 'c', which means "the whole > thing" (here: slice), but that one won't be bootable > then. > > Let's say you have MBR partitions on a disk: > > da0 = { [ partition 1 ] [ partition 2 ] } > > You then format one as UFS: > > # newfs /dev/da0s1 > > As you see - no BSD partition. It will be assumed implicitely > as /dev/da0s1c, which is the same as /dev/da0s1, and you can > now mount this one. > > However, you cannot create a bootable partition that way > as this requires the BSD 'a' label to be present. Here > bsdlabel comes into use: > > da0 = { da0s1 = [ da0s1a da0s1b ... ] [ partition 2 ] } > > You'd have to format it as > > # newfs /dev/da0s1a > > if you wanted to do this manually. > > > >> If that had not been possible, UFS would not have been >> possible under GPT. > > That is not correct. GPT has a representation of UFS-type > file systems that MBR simply hasn't. BSD labels can only > exist within a MBR slice (if MBR is present) or directly > on the device (if MBR is not present). > > > >> What I am suggesting is an option for UFS under MBR just as it is under >> GPT - unnested. > > MBR has a restricted set of partition types (slice types). > Type 165 is a slice that can carry BSD-labeled file systems > (FreeBSD partitions). > > > >> Why is nesting considered a necessity, or even a desirable feature when >> MBR has an EBR slice dedicated to any auxiliary filesystems that might >> be needed ? > > Because when BSD came to the PC, the PC was MBR, and MBR > doesn't allow that. FreeBSD, on the other hand, doesn't _need_ > MBR at all - it's the other ones that need it (like DOS and > "Windows" and maybe OS/2). This is all only neccessary in > multi-boot environments. On dedicated disks, there is no > nesting. > > da0 = { da0a, da0b, da0d, da0e, da0f, da0g, da0h } > > As you can see, da0c is missing, because it's the same as da0. > And da0h is the last possible partition as they are limited > as well. > > > >> The BSD schema could only be justified for times when MBR had no >> subdivisible slice. At least now MBR has that slice, so why not use it >> as such and use UFS just like Ext2 in this regard ? > > This is because logical volumes inside a DOS extended partitions > cannot be set to a type that can hold a label / UFS file system, > especially not a bootable one. > > See "man 8 boot" for how booting happens and which exact > requirements need to be fulfilled. > > However, you _can_ do the following. In your mind, create a disk > with one DOS extended partition, and inside it, create some > logical volumes. Now newfs them (they will be all 'c' volumes), > and you can mount them - no problem. However, you cannot get > one of them to boot as FreeBSD requires an 'a' partition, > and the active bit must be set for the slice that holds it. > > If there are no slices, i. e., no MBR at all, the 'a' > partition will be found at the start of the disk (where > normally the 1st slice would reside) and therefore the BIOS > will transfer boot control through the boot sector loader. > > > MBR permits 3 primary partitions + 1 EBR slice. What I meant was one of the three partitions serving as FreeBSD / (UFS, unnested), and any extra filesystems the user needs reside within the EBR. In other words, an option for UFS to be just like Ext2 in this respect. From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 7 22:54:38 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8C421035169 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from forward106j.mail.yandex.net (forward106j.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:801:2::109]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "forwards.mail.yandex.net", Issuer "Yandex CA" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3F79A70826 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 22:54:38 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jude.obscure@yandex.com) Received: from mxback6g.mail.yandex.net (mxback6g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:167]) by forward106j.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id C6D8C180271C for ; Sun, 8 Jul 2018 01:54:35 +0300 (MSK) Received: from smtp1p.mail.yandex.net (smtp1p.mail.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b6:6]) by mxback6g.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTP id bq7YLa7yAG-sZ9uOXY1; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:54:35 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1531004075; bh=jzMrIEnyGJLSBNWa0zWM6nrSosgcVsfR1Kb1QmHUZQE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=QPIfg0Ju9+uxt+2DUUJAha/4AgZx12jHiS5zkiTaKhKmdyhSgnj3Id/IQFBU4eGxR ecd5jmmPZfm5kbUd8xB3CJoA39u55UXT4lW50JlRbMewOlOP3+s8UUkpnRFXvE+5U3 3zHLL9h2EJV5l6zKcLPBQWvHCn1oSPgmJDLeR73U= Received: by smtp1p.mail.yandex.net (nwsmtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id 4rsb09Sq7D-rsl49r4H; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:53:54 +0300 (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client certificate not present) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.com; s=mail; t=1531004035; bh=jzMrIEnyGJLSBNWa0zWM6nrSosgcVsfR1Kb1QmHUZQE=; h=Subject:To:References:From:Message-ID:Date:In-Reply-To; b=IeEqhx/JksT+vxOW16oN+YEP7mxTfetpnbKdeW3BoG2ugGXX3jCxNQhs6r9LfZwpB Zd8FukLApFtHI5RghiKnXtkLIq3HqYisu/mvsUAU7iTK4aUQFzSqNY4G2JcTEvV5UE ZR5F5HGyUhN2yt6xxr8C5KEKXIqFiSwR7hHOA88M= Authentication-Results: smtp1p.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.com Subject: Re: Fwd: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR To: FreeBSD Questions References: <98201d37-2d65-34c6-969e-c9649f1a3ab1@yandex.com> <20180707231908.65a2e973.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180708001336.4097d20e.freebsd@edvax.de> <6bbfdaad-6872-1a6b-f176-471e57ac8d0a@yandex.com> <20180708004645.5a39c930.freebsd@edvax.de> From: Manish Jain Message-ID: <2449a381-01db-a0b7-a306-cbadf35fb504@yandex.com> Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 04:21:52 +0530 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180708004645.5a39c930.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 22:54:39 -0000 On 07/08/18 04:16, Polytropon wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 03:50:09 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: >> MBR permits 3 primary partitions + 1 EBR slice. >> >> What I meant was one of the three partitions serving as FreeBSD / (UFS, >> unnested), and any extra filesystems the user needs reside within the EBR. >> >> In other words, an option for UFS to be just like Ext2 in this respect. > > Yes, that is possible if you simply format that slice. It > does not matter if it's a DOS primary partition or a logical > volume inside a DOS extended partition. What you basically > do is that you get a 'c'-labeled BSD partition (where 'c' > means "the whole thing", in this case, a partition. > > Let's say you have the following construct: > > da0 = { [da0s1] [da0s2] [da0s3] [da0s5 da0s6] } > > We assume da0s1 - da0s3 are used for DOS, "Windows", maybe > one Linux Ext2 data partition - 3 DOS primary partitions. > And then we assume one DOS extended partition with two > logical volumes in it. You can now use newfs to format > them: > > # newfs /dev/da0s5 > # newfs /dev/da0s6 > > This gives you /dev/da0s5c and /dev/da0s6c (where the 'c' > can be omitted, and you can use /dev/da0s5 and /dev/da0s6 > instead), and you could for example do: > > # mount -t ufs /dev/da0s5 /usr > # mount -t ufs /dev/da0s6 /var > > Entries in /etc/fstab will attach them at boot time. > > However, there is a problem with booting, as I already said. > FreeBSD requires an 'a'-labeled BSD partition to boot from, > MBR or not (or its equivalent in GPT, freebsd-boot, to > construct a "boot chain" from the freebsd-boot to a > freebsd-ufs partition which holds /), and this partition > will then be the / partition. > > As you can see, this is not possible. You cannot have a > 'a' partition when you can only create a 'c' partition > on a bare slice (coverin the whole slice). > > > > Resources: > > https://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/disk-organization.html > > http://www.wonkity.com/~wblock/docs/html/disksetup.html > > https://wiki.pacbsd.org/index.php/Partitioning Then how do the 'a' and 'c' partitions get accommodated in GPT ? Poly, your thinking is wrong. The BSD schema served its purpose. Now, we should think about retiring it. Or at least, provide it as only an option to conform with past behaviour. But definitely not as a matter of forced usage. Tx MJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 7 23:04:42 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D1BBD10371FB for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 23:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: from mail-wm0-x236.google.com (mail-wm0-x236.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::236]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4CFF870E4A for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 23:04:41 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from rwmaillists@googlemail.com) Received: by mail-wm0-x236.google.com with SMTP id v128-v6so249480wme.5 for ; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 16:04:41 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding; bh=M5+MsfJP90DUyRvnvJHWW37ENop59MlX0tjnVYAKTu0=; b=V0htPqDzJK6v9AY4m8P+4+kp+zOuURgp8uEUrwRsFH+/mEFN25DEPHWgcOdA/wH4GX SVbT+6D2BoxBy8fPb5EpNshbIDS6/d37fvT9nosUrBfytIBz9ADHmCJeMpHZ3Ict3Pt4 XZ98GlBjy5K3Y18gY8I7TmNGBlDGL7io9GA+VaQobRMxDH2nsJr038d6P1kzPuv4+phL DClvPE9Mbu8K7fBOc6HFSak8ewAz+mH1/qP0JZ46IIY4NFdQn/9IFBz5dpXULmG6FR+u 4gleI3vDUgz5+rFZbm3LzwGu2vkJlzFe08sv/73YDLt0ktiLbTHpEMepMKHZa+qMVaTH w8JQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2KZadZZnauYXOjVmabFhvKJ+n2QLC7Ozmwepys/eFWnAdBBT8f tu2P8y+UIyylB47C1PXeOZImlg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdp5w/jzyxh3l+MVrBxzUX3vCSNog7/YtJ35+B3PHL9j6TJ/92bkjIniI+GYwNuov8WJ/zrvA== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:7506:: with SMTP id o6-v6mr9489570wmc.60.1531004679911; Sat, 07 Jul 2018 16:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Received: from gumby.homeunix.com ([2.222.27.178]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m136-v6sm6368551wma.32.2018.07.07.16.04.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 bits=256/256); Sat, 07 Jul 2018 16:04:39 -0700 (PDT) Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 00:04:37 +0100 From: RW To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR Message-ID: <20180708000437.2dd95933@gumby.homeunix.com> In-Reply-To: <0753eec0-674f-842f-2dae-c8405b004dc1@yandex.com> References: <98201d37-2d65-34c6-969e-c9649f1a3ab1@yandex.com> <20180707224648.5187be22@gumby.homeunix.com> <0753eec0-674f-842f-2dae-c8405b004dc1@yandex.com> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.32; amd64-portbld-freebsd11.1) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 23:04:42 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 03:28:30 +0530 Manish Jain wrote: > On 07/08/18 03:16, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:20:56 +0530 > > Manish Jain wrote: > >> There is one request I wished to make for FreeBSD filesystems. > >> While UFS implementation under GPT is unnested just as Ext2, the > >> MBR implementation of UFS continues to piggyback on an unnecessary > >> nest (in a BSD slice). > > You can put UFS on an MBR partition if you want to. > > How ? Can you give me the gpart command for that ? Remember, the > command must put the UFS partition directly into the MBR. Not first > into a BSD nest. If you create an MBR partition you can run newfs on it - I done this for data partitions. Whether or not you can make that a bootable partition I don't know, I've never tried. I don't think there's any intrinsic reason why it can't be done, it's a matter of whether it's supported by a tool. If you just want to put a single FreeBSD install on a disk without the slice you can use a "dangerously dedicated" install, the traditional unix install. 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FreeBSD amd64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20180708011444.82511c6a.freebsd@edvax.de> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 23:24:19 -0000 On 07/08/18 04:44, Polytropon wrote: > They don't. With GPT, there is no need for BSD labels anymore. All I am saying is exactly the same possibility for MBR. We can create a UFS implementation, perhaps named ufs, that gets recorded directly in MBR table. Right now the implementation is freebsd::freebsd-ufs. If someone could just touch a few things, it improves things for eternity when we do not have bother about the extra layer (BSD). Any extra filesystems the user needs should be found in the EBR, not in the BSD. Why should a PC have multiple nesting schemas ? It only pains the user in the future when the need for the extra nest was only in the past (when there presumably was no EBR nest). Tx MJ From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 7 23:47:26 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C869103BF92 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 23:47:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.130]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BABD872A84 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 23:47:25 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.57.160]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0MfDvq-1fRR6V0fiE-00OpKh; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:42:05 +0200 Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 01:42:04 +0200 From: Polytropon To: RW Cc: RW via freebsd-questions Subject: Re: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR Message-Id: <20180708014204.57b34879.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: <20180708000437.2dd95933@gumby.homeunix.com> References: <98201d37-2d65-34c6-969e-c9649f1a3ab1@yandex.com> <20180707224648.5187be22@gumby.homeunix.com> <0753eec0-674f-842f-2dae-c8405b004dc1@yandex.com> <20180708000437.2dd95933@gumby.homeunix.com> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:gg/h94iTbL071YyrQNliddiL+uprX10dx77LYrV+8bgcsk4cPBc 03Kxs3Q/6X0phPwUFOyihnM75OWuZQKOSVAaGwq20yO/dF0ZhOoJ7z2tKPbsFrx51x75hy3 C5XBxVUN1awyz75/8bs5dyYcQ5b1s+r1Oc7XcLwAW5wHbN2Xs7LUn4McVtKpoy85844yghO OiLcH8zizdOuR6LQhhLtg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:8mELFMcDso0=:nhZwc9GoN5Ei4l8rdjYfl8 4JupVqoEYBMLUIxu7qu2zoNBxurnXpebi3cnH4LSPWZFiKsKPtb6D+jDlwgXTEWkcPkCfF493 S5ktuHGfD9GYTYMc9SDplkODIv2436eL+I/Aa5SKcORHxyhSaQVgryPp2ySlUoC2izkl9AUsx Dt4v4OFksOTJh/a1TsOuo2e6S5szoE3WnX5QAFp6gu7fQICSDWIMzSg6lKiB9zkvjoN4AoEkW O+16+RMe1hbrUXGmyUrONxFGNCP/VXfNDYeShCpPe5Ikcrt2c4HicIbmmhm1hh6U2ggwM3St5 6kaLu/SVQX7nWLRgjZiptzgivzRjd3/xU4Exr4f4qwQcBAiLAA0RNhZYfxrRUclKSchXr7oN9 Or6012KKnzRLpyuAFipCWhvRdQxXhWK1h+YaLNkNdYaiL83eXLtBfM1NlGxmVk5a5gavLkNGw o5LI806B0evKUBtFn6G+yHFAYW4snBtE7Bie692JQb8FjqMdPWNPHZbHM4t3REPrpykVIGpak CctqsAkqzhfO1xRvnu/b8Ppd0oW+tn8cviZ5GDfmqxyNaa9zrpqLyn7oxb5LxRyE7eLfuE6jY shl2g6QehifNmSgmBqmb7orCloS+6XHVq1F19EgrQsU2qUuS4vvh1w7px0xtoJaBTNaSM8+nr k+pdSamRyApZXBJdyBvGgy5OHUWBt1IYL7kTe/c1rSG0HR8hXJ2Tomy++LhttjEtiId+hD7Z2 xjAtDdDf/DldyD8F X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 23:47:26 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 00:04:37 +0100, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 03:28:30 +0530 > Manish Jain wrote: > > > On 07/08/18 03:16, RW via freebsd-questions wrote: > > > On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 02:20:56 +0530 > > > Manish Jain wrote: > > > >> There is one request I wished to make for FreeBSD filesystems. > > >> While UFS implementation under GPT is unnested just as Ext2, the > > >> MBR implementation of UFS continues to piggyback on an unnecessary > > >> nest (in a BSD slice). > > > > You can put UFS on an MBR partition if you want to. > > > > How ? Can you give me the gpart command for that ? Remember, the > > command must put the UFS partition directly into the MBR. Not first > > into a BSD nest. > > If you create an MBR partition you can run newfs on it - I done this > for data partitions. Whether or not you can make that a bootable > partition I don't know, I've never tried. I don't think there's any > intrinsic reason why it can't be done, it's a matter of whether it's > supported by a tool. >From my understanding (and explained off-list), FreeBSD requires a 'a' BSD-labeled partition (inside a slice in case of MBR, or on a disk if "dedicated") to boot from. It doesn't seem to be possible to label a partition 'a' without using labels. The label 'c' for data partitions is implicit and will be synonymous for "the whole thing" (slice, disk), as it is generated by using newfs on a MBR slice directly (no matter if "DOS primary partition" or "logical volume inside DOS extended partition"). > If you just want to put a single FreeBSD install on a disk without the > slice you can use a "dangerously dedicated" install, the traditional > unix install. Dedicated seems to be out of scope here because a further intend it to use the FreeBSD boot manager in a multiboot environment. Reality has shown several times that MBR is a useful solution here if you want to use that boot manager exclusively. Linux and FreeBSD can coexist on GPT, too, but usually require grub for boot selection. GPT is much more convenient, but it has its limitations. MBR has limitations as well. And the dedicated approach should only be used if you exactly know what to expect. There is no "one size fits all" solution for partitioning, booting, and multi-booting. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ... From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Sat Jul 7 23:54:15 2018 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F051103CB97 for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 23:54:15 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from mout.kundenserver.de (mout.kundenserver.de [212.227.126.131]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "mout.kundenserver.de", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-2" (verified OK)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CE35172F6E for ; Sat, 7 Jul 2018 23:54:14 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd@edvax.de) Received: from r56.edvax.de ([92.195.57.160]) by mrelayeu.kundenserver.de (mreue005 [212.227.15.167]) with ESMTPA (Nemesis) id 0M7Wjr-1fzNef2k0l-00xKau; Sun, 08 Jul 2018 01:48:58 +0200 Date: Sun, 8 Jul 2018 01:48:58 +0200 From: Polytropon To: Manish Jain Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Fwd: A request for unnested UFS implementation in MBR Message-Id: <20180708014858.cccaf338.freebsd@edvax.de> In-Reply-To: References: <98201d37-2d65-34c6-969e-c9649f1a3ab1@yandex.com> <20180707231908.65a2e973.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180708001336.4097d20e.freebsd@edvax.de> <6bbfdaad-6872-1a6b-f176-471e57ac8d0a@yandex.com> <20180708004645.5a39c930.freebsd@edvax.de> <939bdcac-d9c3-2863-0e83-e1e87b61ded8@yandex.com> <20180708011444.82511c6a.freebsd@edvax.de> Reply-To: Polytropon Organization: EDVAX X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.1.1 (GTK+ 2.24.5; i386-portbld-freebsd8.2) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:u+QrZPYNLtPK7M8dvy8IWY641yCJVyjkOR4q7/n99pVW02ZFCU1 4+OZ2+SnXAQ2/WE2AncAsrn4dVKxjC5NcQibXTeloRAIIkiS+fJmoN/D3F+hq9kz/IUSRXR +C5MS9Qj+xCAAi5KwfxSbafdW7yfkPo2j3ArEpwNxCeuz8WLXZmJakDlGUnQIBVwloP5WfA XcqPDZfWBn+LJ+ngR0HUA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:aNrj+boSYBA=:808qR75/RTDnCvA+0UDSOd LUvNOQm4f+DYqh1SlltQfDPCw41LiZjzIvdQuEDbgzjnCMNQSdaocm4ikajfxz71pIGtwPNfr S+GTX9pqhhE8LVGGinVASMGI9+hL1v6tryInZNf5eL0Ao5g99WAT51UB57MxwtaN/kE6aD4ok sxddegKZoSfiYpG3jazLJ+Ra/es/pXOJHxXfqh3p20Lj4SYz43E1oSkMJP8Zaz1d5lDo2DySa +QLY/E+OYDfqUxTE95gi4k6AHXt4GQH31SO9RV/kadPU7Qd8pUnqxWdCq1VfUsLzvcQ2oRjZl VmpVwRECqC6AWgITmUR37woHejwmyFvMcmK0QWQCu3059g3gULPsQ0VjzrWKgAlpoW4OhuFCi HLEH70Ig1+2VE8cHuOAqKoICxuzXhF7AxIGeUKSMpBPlFfXCnvsEVXSltQdU/fXk/ntJcZzAh SwI1RW8+unG9dNkMibJSSp5cK+xEODtiaYUdjQ5RrZm8BWP4dZg7BciLqk3wnjYJZ4qssad3R pdN3RU6keAXsAN4qPdH+RrzhTW9/ovKJGfdWLoUTeIy8nV2OJsGxv3UJIDMOD6+U+DBQOQVFZ RdLMBaq8ceOzZ6DB8jEiv23YmUmH5JsbMLYf8gM9KymGFcpy/X+gdNveorA2UZmYWIPEBoovZ Pu8CUgZoDpr5iRnyMWPdRukQ083FMgmAjRX+/35pi9Xy7Z6d919a3POBFaZBu234WXIoGSkSa ST4SUGyPN9MR3uof X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2018 23:54:15 -0000 On Sun, 8 Jul 2018 04:52:11 +0530, Manish Jain wrote: > On 07/08/18 04:44, Polytropon wrote: > > They don't. With GPT, there is no need for BSD labels anymore. > > All I am saying is exactly the same possibility for MBR. This is not possible due to the design of MBR. It's some kind of "lowest common denominator" in the PC world. The BSDs have agreed on "sysid 165 (0xa5),(FreeBSD/NetBSD/386BSD)" and the use of partitions inside a slice. It's not that FreeBSD couldn't do without that. It can, but other systems on the same disk probably can't. > We can create a UFS implementation, perhaps named ufs, that gets > recorded directly in MBR table. Right now the implementation is > freebsd::freebsd-ufs. The partition type freebsd-ufs is designed for GPT, not for MBR. You'd basically have to find a sysid (MBR partition type) or create a new one that FreeBSD understands as an 'a' labeled BSD partition and agrees to boot from it. But still there is the crazy construct of 4 "DOS primary partitions", and if you need more, you have to remove one to create a "DOS extended partition" and logical volumes within it. The numbering is inconvenient, too. That's why GPT exists. So why not use that, instead of trying to accomodate outdated MBR to perform a task it is not designed to do? > If someone could just touch a few things, it improves things for > eternity when we do not have bother about the extra layer (BSD). As I said, GPT helps with that. > Any > extra filesystems the user needs should be found in the EBR, not in the BSD. That looks too complicated. Always remember that MBR and the slices come from DOS, an era that's over. For multi-booting, Grub can be used. It worked on MBR, and it works on GPT. > Why should a PC have multiple nesting schemas ? It only pains the user > in the future when the need for the extra nest was only in the past > (when there presumably was no EBR nest). GPT solved that problem years ago. Unsolved problems, however, contain multi-booting and the trouble with "Windows" in this context, but that's nothing FreeBSD should primarily care about. -- Polytropon Magdeburg, Germany Happy FreeBSD user since 4.0 Andra moi ennepe, Mousa, ...