From owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Mon May 4 10:19:52 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EF9482CB987 for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 10:19:52 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.localdomain (dontpanic.foucry.net [80.67.176.134]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 49FzPN0rZXz40pV for ; Mon, 4 May 2020 10:19:51 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from jacques+freebsd@foucry.net) Received: from mithril.foucry.net (mithril.foucry.net [127.0.0.1]) by mithril.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTP id B6B1718370; Mon, 4 May 2020 12:19:50 +0200 (CEST) Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 12:19:50 +0200 From: Jacques Foucry To: Polytropon Cc: Steve O'Hara-Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Local_unbound and (opn)vpn Message-ID: <20200504101950.GE73151@mithril.foucry.net> Mail-Followup-To: Polytropon , Steve O'Hara-Smith , freebsd-questions@freebsd.org References: <20200504054312.GA73151@mithril.foucry.net> <20200504080728.GC73151@mithril.foucry.net> <20200504104935.c3106837a6582028853b623f@sohara.org> <20200504120151.d82a5a04.freebsd@edvax.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <20200504120151.d82a5a04.freebsd@edvax.de> X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49FzPN0rZXz40pV X-Spamd-Bar: - Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=fail reason="No valid SPF, No valid DKIM" header.from=foucry.net (policy=none) X-Spamd-Result: default: False [-1.61 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-0.999,0]; DMARC_POLICY_SOFTFAIL(0.10)[foucry.net : No valid SPF, No valid DKIM,none]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; HFILTER_HELO_IP_A(1.00)[mithril.localdomain]; HFILTER_HELO_NORES_A_OR_MX(0.30)[mithril.localdomain]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(-1.01)[ipnet: 80.67.160.0/19(-2.82), asn: 20766(-2.23), country: FR(-0.00)]; RCVD_NO_TLS_LAST(0.10)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:20766, ipnet:80.67.160.0/19, country:FR]; TAGGED_FROM(0.00)[freebsd]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 04 May 2020 10:19:53 -0000 Le lundi 04 mai 2020 à 12:01:51 (+0200), Polytropon à écrit: > On Mon, 4 May 2020 10:49:35 +0100, Steve O'Hara-Smith wrote: > > On Mon, 4 May 2020 10:07:28 +0200 > > Jacques Foucry wrote: > > > > > Well forgot my question. The solution was in this mail :-) > > > > > > I was thinking duriong writing but not testing before sending it. > > > > Doing this in person is a powerful debugging technique known as > > 'cardboard man debugging' because the person having the problem explained > > to feels like they could have been a cardboard cutout. > > If I remember correctly, the modern terminology for this > kind of action is "rubberducking". It's also available as > a web-based cloud-hosted ML VR SaaS, of course... ;-) It's happend very often to me, specially when I write a mail. The solution came just when the mail is sent :-) May be should to more to my cats :-) Take care. -- Jacques Foucry