From owner-freebsd-chat Thu May 3 11:22:15 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-chat@freebsd.org Received: from winston.osd.bsdi.com (adsl-64-173-15-98.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net [64.173.15.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6C4F37B424 for ; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:22:11 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) Received: from localhost (jkh@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by winston.osd.bsdi.com (8.11.3/8.11.2) with ESMTP id f43ILd346480; Thu, 3 May 2001 11:21:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jkh@osd.bsdi.com) To: jessemonroy@email.com, jessem@livecam.com Cc: chat@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: [jkh@osd.bsdi.com: ANNOUNCE: Status update on ftp.freebsd.org A KA ftp.freesoftware.com] In-Reply-To: <200105031804.LAA12112@dnull.com> References: <20010503104606M.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <200105031804.LAA12112@dnull.com> X-Mailer: Mew version 1.94.1 on Emacs 20.7 / Mule 4.0 (HANANOEN) Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <20010503112139V.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> Date: Thu, 03 May 2001 11:21:39 -0700 From: Jordan Hubbard X-Dispatcher: imput version 20000228(IM140) Lines: 59 Sender: owner-freebsd-chat@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.org From: jessem@livecam.com Subject: Re: [jkh@osd.bsdi.com: ANNOUNCE: Status update on ftp.freebsd.org A KA ftp.freesoftware.com] Date: Thu, 3 May 2001 11:03:35 -0700 (PDT) > At your request, I have moved this to hackers. You mean chat. Thank you. > Per your insistance, that this has nothing to do with hackers, is > in my opinion Bull. Your opinion doesn't count for much in this case since it's clearly not a -hackers issue. The freebsd-hackers mailing list, as is again clearly outlined in the charter I pointed you to, is for technical discussion. I simply cannot see how anyone with a reasonable command of english could read into that a mandate for discussing the FTP site. There's even a mailing list purely devoted to discussing that infrastructure and it's called hubs@freebsd.org. > The pettyness that is rising *is* solely on your part. I have no > agenda here other than that *that is good* for BSD and the businesses > and jobs around BSD. What you evidently see as pettyness is my simply trying to keep the mailing lists sane and comparatively focused on things other than flamebait. You seem equally adept at generating flamebait and then attempting to pass it off under the guise of "supporting the community" or "doing what's good for BSD" and when people come back and call a spade a spade, you evade the issue entirely by suggesting that identifying flamebait as such constitutes a fear of your opinions or some other such rubbish. Sorry, I don't buy it. > I urge you to stop the rhetoric NOW. I urge you to respond, as > we would expect a BSDer to respond when dealing with issues > of a professional nature. I have already responded, in just over 5000 words, to freebsd-announce as a BSDer. The fact that you then chose to regard that as a cover-up for some reason is your own doing and not something I can even genuinely respond to since I think the only response which would satisfy you at this point would be something to the effect of: OK Jesus, you're right, you caught us. This has all been a highly orchestrated plot between Wind River and Microsoft, who are secretly in collusion and actually the same company, to wipe out a promising young operating system effort and acquire its developers for pennies on the dollar. They figured that after they got us all turned out on the streets and forced to sell our bodies and various internal organs for food, they could acquire us cheap and get us to sign the waiver form that allows the Visual Basic brain implants. Then we'd simply turn into Borg-like zombies who wrote Visual Basic all day long without complaint and nothing other than an occasionally mumbled "ActiveX controls are good!" escaping from our lips. Ah Jesus, I quail before your mighty insight! - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-chat" in the body of the message