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Date:      Mon, 21 Mar 2005 22:46:12 -0700
From:      Simon Timms <freebsd.questions@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: oo.org unkillable process
Message-ID:  <138bced705032121465ee703f@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20050321221304.GH82075@saturn.pcs.ms>
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I have this same problem (see open office freezes thread).  I was
wondering what was going on such that it is possible to create
processes which cannot be killed.  This seems to me like it should not
be permitted by the operating system.  If root decides a process needs
to go then it should go, especially a user land process.  Would it not
be possible to find out what is going wrong with OO.org and use
whatever it is that is going wrong in a process fork bomb?  I'm not
going to claim that I know anything about operating systems, but it
seems to me that if I say die then the kernel should simply force
closed any file handles, free the process memory and remove the
process from the process list.


On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 23:13:04 +0100, Martin Schweizer
<lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch> wrote:
> I know oo needs a lot of time for compiling. That is the last idea I had.
> Did you ask the people from superoffice.org? I did a default installation
> twice on separate freebsd boxes without problems.
>=20
> Am Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 11:05:23PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb:
> > Do you mean reinstall? I could try, but as you might know, installing
> > OpenOffice requires a lot of time, patience and workload of your system=
 (not
> > to mention hd-space). But if I did? Why would it be any different? That=
 is,
> > assuming I go again for a default install with no other options.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch]
> > > Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 22:13
> > > To: Freek Nossin
> > > Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process
> > >
> > > Did you a make deinstall?
> > >
> > > Am Mon, Mar 21, 2005 at 10:55:53AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb:
> > > > Sorry I looked over your other questions.
> > > >
> > > > I did not have any previous version of OO, so deinstalling wasn't
> > > needed.
> > > > I run version 5.3 with a GENERIC kernel.
> > > > I used portinstall (portupgrade) for the installation.
> > > > My X-version is the latest xorg.
> > > > I have also got jdk14 installed.
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch]
> > > > Sent: maandag 21 maart 2005 6:31
> > > > To: Freek Nossin
> > > > Cc: 'Martin Schweizer'; freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process
> > > >
> > > > What FreeBSD version do you have? Did you make deinstall and then m=
ake
> > > > install?
> > > >
> > > > Am Sun, Mar 20, 2005 at 10:01:39PM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb:
> > > > > I did. My version ports tree was just a week old.
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Martin Schweizer [mailto:lists_freebsd@bluewin.ch]
> > > > > > Sent: zondag 20 maart 2005 19:09
> > > > > > To: Freek Nossin
> > > > > > Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
> > > > > > Subject: Re: oo.org unkillable process
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hello Freek
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I run OO since month without problems (also remote over ssh). X=
-
> > > Version?
> > > > > > FreeBSD-Version? Did you make cvsuped  fresh installation?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Am Wed, Mar 16, 2005 at 10:04:36AM +0100 Freek Nossin schrieb:
> > > > > > > Hello,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I recently installed OO.org via the ports. When I start one o=
f its
> > > > > > > applications the program freezes and I can't kill the process=
, not
> > > > > > > even
> > > > > > as
> > > > > > > root with
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > #kill -9 <PID>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I found some related messages in the freebsd-current mailling
> > > > > > > list, but
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > could not find a solution.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-
> > > > > > November/042264.
> > > > > > > html
> > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-
> > > > > > November/042162.
> > > > > > > html
> > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-
> > > > > > November/042222.
> > > > > > > html
> > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-
> > > > > > November/042204.
> > > > > > > html
> > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-
> > > > > > November/042488.
> > > > > > > html
> > > > > > > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/htdig/freebsd-current/2004-
> > > > > > November/042156.
> > > > > > > html
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  Does anybody have an idea?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Freek
> > > > > > >
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> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards
> > > > > > Gruss
> > > > > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Martin Schweizer
> > > > > > <info@pc-service.ch>
> > > > > >
> > > > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubiko=
n
> > > > > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22;
> > > > > > http://www.pc-service.ch; public key :
> > > > > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;
> > > > > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7  10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239=
;
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Gruss
> > > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen
> > > >
> > > > Martin Schweizer
> > > > <info@pc-service.ch>
> > > >
> > > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon Te=
l.
> > > +41 55
> > > > 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch; public =
key :
> > > > http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;
> > > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7  10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239;
> > > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Gruss
> > > Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen
> > >
> > > Martin Schweizer
> > > <info@pc-service.ch>
> > >
> > > PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon
> > > Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.c=
h;
> > > public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;
> > > fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7  10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239;
> >
> >
>=20
> --
>=20
> Regards
> Gruss
> Mit freundlichen Gr=FCssen
>=20
> Martin Schweizer
> <info@pc-service.ch>
>=20
> PC-Service M. Schweizer GmbH; Bannholzstrasse 6; CH-8608 Bubikon
> Tel. +41 55 243 30 00; Fax: +41 55 243 33 22; http://www.pc-service.ch;
> public key : http://www.pc-service.ch/pgp/public_key.asc;
> fingerprint: EC21 CA4D 5C78 BC2D 73B7  10F9 C1AE 1691 D30F D239;
>=20
>=20
>



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