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Date:      Sat, 12 Jun 2010 22:12:51 +0300
From:      Kaya Saman <SamanKaya@netscape.net>
To:        Ian Smith <smithi@nimnet.asn.au>
Cc:        multimedia@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Setting audio input source for Darkice using mixer: can't set vol??
Message-ID:  <4C13DC33.4040909@netscape.net>
In-Reply-To: <20100612030033.I27982@sola.nimnet.asn.au>
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On 06/11/2010 08:20 PM, Ian Smith wrote:
> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010, Kaya Saman wrote:
>
>   >  Ok so since no one is able to answer or help out with the below; is there any
>   >  way of taking the output of XMMS2 and digitally routing it to the input of
>   >  Darkice???
>
> mixer =rec mix and setting the level on pcm doesn't work for you?
>    

Erm seems not to???

I got this now:

$ mixer
Mixer vol      is currently set to 100:100
Mixer pcm      is currently set to 100:100
Mixer speaker  is currently set to  75:75
Mixer mic      is currently set to   0:0
Mixer mix      is currently set to 100:100
Mixer rec      is currently set to 100:100
Recording source: mix

The volume is very low with a lot of hiss...........  actually quite 
interestingly sounds like an old cassette!

>   >  I don't want to connect a whole bunch of analog cables and especially not one
>   >  from output to input as I need the output to listen but also need to get a
>   >  duplicate to be able to stream......
>   >
>   >  Is anyone able to advise me at all????
>
> Have a look at ports audio/jack and audio/xmms-jack (and friends);
> software audio routing sure beats mucking around with cables, not to
> mention avoiding loss of quality going digital ->  analogue ->  digital.
>
> Disclaimer: I haven't used jack on FreeBSD yet myself, only on Debian.
> I assume someone would have said something if it doesn't work ..
>    

Hmm.... I might need to as it seems that the drivers internal routing 
matrix might be missing something.

> cheers, Ian
>    

Regards,

Kaya

>   >  Many thanks,
>   >
>   >  Kaya
>   >
>   >
>   >  On 09/06/2010 20:59, Kaya Saman wrote:
>   >  >  On Wed, Jun 9, 2010 at 11:52 AM, Kaya Saman<SamanKaya@netscape.net>   wrote:
>   >  >
>   >  >  >  >   Hi guys,
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >   just want to bump this as it's been a few days!!
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >   Am too new on FreeBSD to diagnose the issue myself or have the
>   >  >  >  experience to
>   >  >  >  >   know where this problem is coming from so I hope someone can help??
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >   Thanks,
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >   Kaya
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  It's unclear what your problem is. You cannot set 'vol' as a recording
>   >  >  source, it is an output device. You conclude correctly that your
>   >  >  recording devices are mic and mix.
>   >  >
>   >  >  Cheers
>   >  >
>   >  >  Tom
>   >  >
>   >  >
>   >  >
>   >  >  On 06/09/2010 06:44 PM, Ian Smith wrote:
>   >  >  >  On Wed, 9 Jun 2010, Kaya Saman wrote:
>   >  >  >  >   Hi guys,
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >   just want to bump this as it's been a few days!!
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >   Am too new on FreeBSD to diagnose the issue myself or have the
>   >  >  >  experience to
>   >  >  >  >   know where this problem is coming from so I hope someone can help??
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >   Thanks,
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >   Kaya
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >   On 06/06/2010 11:05, Kaya Saman wrote:
>   >  >  >  >  >   Hi,
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   am trying to set pcm or vol as the input source for my mixer in
>   >  >  >  order to be
>   >  >  >  >  >   used in conjunction with Darkice.
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   For Darkice I have already set input as /dev/dsp which should be ok
>   >  >  >  as
>   >  >  >  >  >   /dev/dsp0.0 comes up when using ls /dev..... however, I had this
>   >  >  >  config
>   >  >  >  >  >   working on another box so from what I can tell the 0.0 just gives
>   >  >  >  the
>   >  >  >  >  >   amount of simultaneous channels if I'm not mistaken.
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   The major difficulty however is coming from the fact that I can't
>   >  >  >  set the
>   >  >  >  >  >   rec input to be pcm or vol :-(
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   pciconf -lv shows this:
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   hdac0@pci0:0:27:0:    class=0x040300 card=0x50038086 chip=0x3a3e8086
>   >  >  >  >  >   rev=0x00 hdr=0x00
>   >  >  >  >  >       vendor     = 'Intel Corporation'
>   >  >  >  >  >       device     = 'HD Audio Controller'
>   >  >  >  >  >       class      = multimedia
>   >  >  >  >  >       subclass   = HDA
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   and as both Andrew Thompson and Frank Shute helped me last time
>   >  >  >  getting:
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   snd_hda_load="YES"
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   into /boot/loader.conf audio works without any problem too as have
>   >  >  >  tested
>   >  >  >  >  >   playback!!
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   If I try to set:
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   # mixer =rec vol
>   >  >  >  >  >   mixer: unknown recording device: vol
>   >  >  >  >  >   usage: mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] [dev [+|-][voll[:[+|-]volr]] ...
>   >  >  >  >  >          mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] recsrc ...
>   >  >  >  >  >          mixer [-f device] [-s | -S] {^|+|-|=}rec rdev ...
>   >  >  >  >  >    devices: vol, pcm, speaker, mic, mix, rec
>   >  >  >  >  >    rec devices: mic, mix
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   I just get that the rec interfaces are mic or mix?? This is not the
>   >  >  >  same as
>   >  >  >  >  >   my other box using a different and much older integral sound chip.
>   >  >  >
>   >  >  >  Seeing noone else has pounced .. we run Darkice for audio logging, but a
>   >  >  >  hacked version of edcast_jack for streaming, and that on a Debian box
>   >  >  >  using jackd and ALSA to split the feed to both of them, which may not
>   >  >  >  seem relevant at all .. but we use Mix as the recording device, zeroing
>   >  >  >  levels and muting all channels we're not using (mic, pcm, CD etc).  We
>   >  >  >  record from Line and set levels on that, but it works the same using
>   >  >  >  just pcm in the mix instead.
>   >  >  >
>   >  >  >  Not what you asked I know, but it may work ok for you .. with digital
>   >  >  >  mixing with everything else off or zero, there's no degradation.
>   >  >  >
>   >  >  >  HTH, Ian
>   >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   I also attempted to comment the snd_hda_load out of
>   >  >  >  /boot/loader.conf and
>   >  >  >  >  >   include this instead:
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   snd_driver_load="YES"
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   which basically did the same thing as the above with (so also a
>   >  >  >  small
>   >  >  >  >  >   question here about which line is better?) so yeah am stuck with
>   >  >  >  both
>   >  >  >  >  >   kernel module loaders providing the same output :-(
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   Is there a way other then feeding a cable from the output into the
>   >  >  >  input to
>   >  >  >  >  >   rectify this issue??
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   Thanks,
>   >  >  >  >  >
>   >  >  >  >  >   Kaya
>   >  >
>   >  >  Thanks Ian and Tom for the responses :-)
>   >  >
>   >  >  Tom I'm just going to quote you again: "
>   >  >
>   >  >  It's unclear what your problem is. You cannot set 'vol' as a recording
>   >  >  source, it is an output device.
>   >  >
>   >  >  "
>   >  >
>   >  >  Actually the box that's sitting in front of me can do this:
>   >  >
>   >  >  $ mixer
>   >  >  Mixer vol      is currently set to  75:75
>   >  >  Mixer pcm      is currently set to  75:75
>   >  >  Mixer speaker  is currently set to  75:75
>   >  >  Mixer line     is currently set to  75:75
>   >  >  Mixer mic      is currently set to   0:0
>   >  >  Mixer cd       is currently set to  75:75
>   >  >  Mixer rec      is currently set to   0:0
>   >  >  Mixer igain    is currently set to   0:0
>   >  >  Mixer ogain    is currently set to  50:50
>   >  >  Mixer line1    is currently set to  75:75
>   >  >  Mixer phin     is currently set to   0:0
>   >  >  Mixer phout    is currently set to   0:0
>   >  >  Recording source: vol
>   >  >
>   >  >  Of course it's a totally different system running FreeBSD 8.0 RELEASE 32bit
>   >  >  as opposed to 64bit. Also it has a much older sound card which may have
>   >  >  better support??
>   >  >
>   >  >  Anyway this is what I'm after as currently I can't get my
>   >  >  Darkice/Icecase2/Drupal5 streaming service working as there's no sound
>   >  >  input!!
>   >  >
>   >  >  I think it's probably just the driver for the HD audio interface in my
>   >  >  view. But how to sort or who to go to, to help sort??
>   >  >
>   >  >  Regards,
>   >  >
>   >  >  Kaya
>    




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