From owner-freebsd-questions Wed Oct 18 18:17:49 2000 Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from guru.mired.org (okc-27-149-77.mmcable.com [24.27.149.77]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4BBEF37B4E5 for ; Wed, 18 Oct 2000 18:17:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: (qmail 23966 invoked by uid 100); 19 Oct 2000 01:17:41 -0000 From: Mike Meyer MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <14830.19381.223854.802224@guru.mired.org> Date: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 20:17:41 -0500 (CDT) To: Rick Hamell Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: OT: Unix skills transfer (Was: installation woes) In-Reply-To: <117082116@toto.iv> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 10) "Capitol Reef" XEmacs Lucid X-face: "5Mnwy%?j>IIV\)A=):rjWL~NB2aH[}Yq8Z=u~vJ`"(,&SiLvbbz2W`;h9L,Yg`+vb1>RG% *h+%X^n0EZd>TM8_IB;a8F?(Fb"lw'IgCoyM.[Lg#r\ Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Rick Hamell writes: > BTW... I've been using FreeBSD for three years now...I am willing > to admit that I am just now becoming comfortable enough with it that I'm > looking for a job as a Unix admin.... The nice thing is that all my > FreeBSD skills are transferable to any other Unix system in the > world! Um - not really "all", especially if you're doing admin. The admin tools on every unix distribution (and I include the various Linux distros in that) seems to be different. Real unix systems tend to be some mix of pure SysV and pure BSD tools, along with a few vendor-provided extras and GUIs just for fun. Linux seems to come with it's own set of variants on all those. Things like adduser vs. add_user vs. useradd vs user_add, for one thing. /etc/init.d vs /etc/rc.d vs /etc/rc?.d vs /etc/rc for another. Then there's AIX, which has a real Unix heritage, but - well, they changed all the error messages, and moved almost all the admin databases into binary data files that you frob with magic commands that don't exist on any other Unix system. The best summary is "AIX: it'll remind you of Unix." This stuff even trickles into userland, where my favorite "ps aux" becomes "ps -ef" on SysV systems. Finally, the ports system is FM, and nothing I've seen anywhere else comes close to it for either reliability or ease of use.