From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Nov 12 23:29:19 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2BAF016A40F for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:29:19 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from bee.hiwaay.net (bee.hiwaay.net [216.180.54.11]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E8D043D72 for ; Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:29:15 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dkelly@HiWAAY.net) Received: from [10.0.0.2] ([216.186.148.249]) (authenticated bits=0) by bee.hiwaay.net (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id kACNTCAl1326241 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:29:13 -0600 (CST) In-Reply-To: <4557A858.8010706@locolomo.org> References: <4557A858.8010706@locolomo.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed Message-Id: Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: David Kelly Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 17:29:14 -0600 To: Erik Norgaard X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Testing firewire X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: FreeBSD Questions List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 12 Nov 2006 23:29:19 -0000 On Nov 12, 2006, at 5:03 PM, Erik Norgaard wrote: > So I thought: Is this like ethernet that I need a crossed cable or > can I connect the two with an ordinary cable and check that it works? There is no master nor slave in Firewire, all are peers, and all have (essentially) the same socket. If the cable fits, it works. Witness the difference between a hardware standard driven by Apple (Firewire) and one from Intel/Microsoft (USB). Apple computers can be booted in "target mode" where the machine becomes nothing more than a Firewire hard drive. Only works for the primary drive, but works well. Apple recommends this mode (and Migration Assistant) for cloning user data and applications from one Mac to another. You might also try fwe(4) if your other OS's are capable of doing IP over firewire. -- David Kelly N4HHE, dkelly@HiWAAY.net ======================================================================== Whom computers would destroy, they must first drive mad.