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Date:      Wed, 6 Oct 2004 08:54:33 +0200
From:      Philip Paeps <philip@freebsd.org>
To:        freebsd-current@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: csh is root's shell?
Message-ID:  <20041006065433.GB612@loge.nixsys.be>
In-Reply-To: <20041006010051.GA53821@sirius.speicher.org>
References:  <200410060019.i960JSbq012606@bunrab.catwhisker.org> <1F92A08DB846503C2933CB0D@[192.168.1.16]> <20041006010051.GA53821@sirius.speicher.org>

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On 2004-10-05 21:00:51 (-0400), Geoff Speicher <geoff@speicher.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 05, 2004 at 05:26:32PM -0700, Jason C. Wells wrote:
> > --On Tuesday, October 05, 2004 5:19 PM -0700 David Wolfskill 
> > <david@catwhisker.org> wrote:
> > 
> > > Well, per
> > > http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/src/etc/master.passwd?rev=1.1&conte
> > > nt-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup it looks as if /bin/csh was root's shell as
> > > of Revision 1.1, Sun Jun 20 13:41:37 1993 UTC (11 years, 3 months ago) by
> > > rgrimes.
> > >
> > > No, I didn't check to see if it had changed back & forth in the interim.
> > 
> > Wow.  I must have been carrying my passwd files along with my upgrades
> > since forever.  I don't have a single system that has csh as root's shell.
> 
> I imagine it was made the default because of its supposed friendly
> interactivity features.

FreeBSD's csh is really tcsh, which is quite friendly for interactive use.  I
seem to recall that many shells have in fact borrowed some of the friendly
features of tcsh (think zsh).

> I personally find it quite the contrary (no offense to Bill Joy of course),
> as do plenty of others.

A matter of taste.

> Google on 'csh considered harmful' for a compelling argument.

That's about shell programming, not about interactive use.

  <http://www.faqs.org/faqs/unix-faq/shell/csh-whynot/>;

 - Philip [yes, happy tcsh user :-)]

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