From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Wed Jul 26 19:01:11 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27E3316A4E0 for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:01:11 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from puffy.asicommunications.com (puffy.asicommunications.com [216.9.200.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B346343D8A for ; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:01:10 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from dwc@stilyagin.com) Received: from jeeves.stilyagin.local (reserved-216-9-200-69.asicommunications.com [216.9.200.69] (may be forged)) by puffy.asicommunications.com (8.13.4/8.13.3) with ESMTP id k6QJ19rL031649 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-DSS-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:01:09 -0700 (MST) Received: (from dwc@localhost) by jeeves.stilyagin.local (8.13.4/8.13.4/Submit) id k6QJ18MA032697; Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:01:08 -0700 (MST) Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 12:01:08 -0700 From: Darrin Chandler To: User Freebsd Message-ID: <20060726190108.GE5284@jeeves.stilyagin.local> References: <20060726032544.4CA2643D70@mx1.FreeBSD.org> <20060726123204.C17979@ganymede.hub.org> <20060726153515.I17979@ganymede.hub.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20060726153515.I17979@ganymede.hub.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2i Cc: Nikolas Britton , FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Are hardware vendors starting to bail on FreeBSD ... ? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:01:11 -0000 On Wed, Jul 26, 2006 at 03:36:51PM -0300, User Freebsd wrote: > On Wed, 26 Jul 2006, Nikolas Britton wrote: > > >* No binary blob drivers. > > This is one that I don't necessarily agree with ... if Adaptec came out > with a *supported* iir driver, but it was binary only, I'd be happy with > that ... I just want to know that if I *have* a problem with a piece of > hardware, that I can get support for it ... A lot of people agree with you, but I'm not one of them. It's not about you being inconvenienced in this particular case. It's about choice, and vendors supporting the customers by providing *specs*. What if they provide a blob for FreeBSD but you decide you want to run NetBSD on a particular machine and there's no blob? Or much more likely: what if they provide a blob for Linux, but not for FreeBSD? Should they also provide a blob for Plan 9? If the specs are not open, then your choices are limited to what the vendor wants to develop and support. And that's likely to be Windows, and maybe Linux, and maybe maybe FreeBSD. OTOH, if the vendor opens the specs then good, solid drivers can be written for whatever platform. And ported. And if there's a problem it can be fixed. This even turns out to benefit people who don't give a hoot about whether something is "free" or "open" or not. -- Darrin Chandler | Phoenix BSD Users Group dwchandler@stilyagin.com | http://bsd.phoenix.az.us/ http://www.stilyagin.com/ |