From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Mar 3 01:54:14 1997 Return-Path: Received: (from root@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) id BAA18428 for hackers-outgoing; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 01:54:14 -0800 (PST) Received: from f23.hotmail.com (F23.hotmail.com [207.82.250.34]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.8.5/8.8.5) with ESMTP id BAA18422 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 01:54:11 -0800 (PST) Received: (from root@localhost) by f23.hotmail.com (8.7.5/8.7.3) id BAA01359; Mon, 3 Mar 1997 01:53:40 -0800 (PST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 1997 01:53:40 -0800 (PST) Message-Id: <199703030953.BAA01359@f23.hotmail.com> Received: from 137.229.17.253 by www.hotmail.com with HTTP; Mon, 03 Mar 1997 01:53:40 PST X-Originating-IP: [137.229.17.253] From: " steve howe" To: hackers@freebsd.org Subject: unethical isp Content-Type: text/plain Sender: owner-hackers@freebsd.org X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Precedence: bulk just a brief follow-up and thanks to all who assisted with their helpful comments regarding ISPs disclosure of private email. most recommendations were to sue - and i'm trying - but it is not so easy. most DAs have better things to do than fight trivial ISP/email matters especially when it didn't cost anyone millions of dollars. and the save is true for civil law. you'll be lucky to find a lawyer that knows a floppy from RAM, and if you do, you'll have to a) either cough up 1(0),000s of dollars to pursue anything, or b) prove to the attorney that the damages cost you enough money for him to profit on and make a living on ($10s of 1000s minimum). and those things are not easy - especially when any UNIX log can be forged and is not "serious" evidence (as far as i know, only WORM data can be used as real evidence in court). so i guess what i'm saying is you either better be rich - or you better have lost MAJOR sums of money if you think you can fight any illegal activities concerning public disclosure of private email / jamming of networks / or slander by any information provider ... beware - and don't assume you have any rights is my humble opinion ... --------------------------------------------------------- Get Your *Web-Based* Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ---------------------------------------------------------