From owner-freebsd-hackers Mon Jul 1 15:34:54 2002 Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.FreeBSD.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EB8F37B400; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:34:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1877A43E0A; Mon, 1 Jul 2002 15:34:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from pool0214.cvx22-bradley.dialup.earthlink.net ([209.179.198.214] helo=mindspring.com) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 17P9kv-0000vf-00; Mon, 01 Jul 2002 18:34:50 -0400 Message-ID: <3D20D8DE.2D07022D@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 01 Jul 2002 15:34:06 -0700 From: Terry Lambert X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Doug Barton Cc: Mike Silbersack , hawkeyd@visi.com, freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: ftp and mail much slower into fbsd 4.4 vs and old BSDi References: <20020701134833.E24940-100000@zoot.corp.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.ORG Doug Barton wrote: > > I guess you missed the part where I said that FreeBSD had bugs, and > > Matt Dillon posted patches? > > Nope. I think you missed the part where I said I was talking about > reality, not theory. :) The reality is, it's broken now, and in my > experience, turning it off makes the system "work better." > > I agree that it should be fixed in the long term, but it ain't gonna be me > that fixes it. Then use Dillon's patches, instead of just turning it off. Your anecdotal experience with "works better" is just that -- anecdotal. It doesn't hold for the general case. I guess the problem is that the patches are not committed to the version of FreeBSD you are using, and you are unwilling to upgrade, and unwilling to go look where I tell you to go look? This was only 7 months ago, people! For those people who are unable to search list archives themselves, because they don't know how to ask search engines questions, or whatever, here is a reference to Dillon's patch: http://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=881527+0+archive/2001/freebsd-hackers/20011202.freebsd-hackers Now *QUIT* turning off NewReno, it's *not* doing what you *think* it's doing, and doing something without understanding why it *appears* to work is as bad as waving a dead chicken over the server to keep away denial of service attacks! Sheesh! -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message