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[174.109.225.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w27sm2675254qtc.18.2020.05.08.15.53.30 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 08 May 2020 15:53:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost (hp-envy.seibercom.net [192.168.0.102]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: jerry@seibercom.net) by scorpio.seibercom.net (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 49Jlx50Tw0z1XJQ for ; Fri, 8 May 2020 18:53:29 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 8 May 2020 18:53:27 -0400 From: Jerry To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Microsoft Teams for Linux Message-ID: <20200508185327.00007397@seibercom.net> In-Reply-To: References: <20200505093624.00001df2@seibercom.net> <223da1b3-a83d-b2e8-36dc-468dcb219305@suszko.eu> <20200508113438.00006adc@seibercom.net> Reply-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Organization: seibercom.net X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.4 (GTK+ 2.24.32; i686-w64-mingw32) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 49Jlx92xLtz3NVM X-Spamd-Bar: / Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=pass header.d=seibercom.net header.s=google header.b=IIhsIFDX; dmarc=none; spf=pass (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of jerry@seibercom.net designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::82b as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=jerry@seibercom.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [0.48 / 15.00]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; R_SPF_ALLOW(-0.20)[+ip6:2607:f8b0:4000::/36]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; HAS_ORG_HEADER(0.00)[]; RCVD_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[4]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[seibercom.net:+]; RECEIVED_SPAMHAUS_PBL(0.00)[250.225.109.174.khpj7ygk5idzvmvt5x4ziurxhy.zen.dq.spamhaus.net : 127.0.0.10]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:15169, ipnet:2607:f8b0::/32, country:US]; IP_SCORE(-2.02)[ip: (-9.31), ipnet: 2607:f8b0::/32(-0.33), asn: 15169(-0.43), country: US(-0.05)]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; REPLYTO_EQ_TO_ADDR(5.00)[]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_MEDIUM(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(-0.20)[seibercom.net:s=google]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-1.00)[-1.000,0]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[seibercom.net]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE(0.00)[b.2.8.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.2.0.0.4.6.8.4.0.b.8.f.7.0.6.2.list.dnswl.org : 127.0.5.0]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[] X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.32 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 May 2020 22:53:35 -0000 On Fri, 8 May 2020 22:46:55 +0200, Tomasz CEDRO commented: >pt., 8 maj 2020, 17:35 użytkownik Jerry napisał: > >> On Fri, 8 May 2020 15:23:23 +0200, Tomasz CEDRO commented: >> >On the other hand if Hangouts and Open-Source JITSI Meet works fine >> >on both Frefox and Chrome on FreeBSD so where is the problem? >> >> I don't believe that 'Hangouts' or "JITSI' interfaces with MS Teams. > >I mean the problem is most probably on the application side. Google >Hangouts worked well, so they switched to Google Meet that does not >work at all (no audio and video from and to me). Zoom does not work >well. MS Teams does not work well. Open-Source JITSI works well on the >same setup. > >Maybe if software vendors cared more about open standards, testing and >support for Open-Source platforms, instead "works for me buy my stuff" >or "time to market test on users or forget" shortcuts, we would not >have such problems like the videoconferencing just showed up two days >ago. > >I guess there may be a positive outcome if there is a strong demand and >push from Open-Source community. We can make things work with a bit of >support and good will from vendor. We all know how it works but I send >good wishes so it happens :-) > >Best regards :-) >Tomek Both "Zoom" and "MS Teams" are working fine in my Win10 machine. I have never tried to get them to work on FreeBSD, and I have no idea why I would want to. I don't have a linux machine handy, although that is on my "to-do" list. Perhaps by the end of this summer. You have not defined what "well" is? Is that with MS Teams or 'zoom' working on a Microsoft or supported Linux OS, or on something else? Both "Zoom" and "MS Teams" have been undergoing changes lately. I know because I got updates for both applications. You claim you want better support, yet you obviously have little or no desire to pay for it. Screaming at a vendor, "We want more free stuff." is probably not going to endear you to anyone. Someone has to pay the bills. -- Jerry