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Date:      Sun, 06 Sep 1998 23:35:09 -0700
From:      Studded <Studded@dal.net>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        cvs-all@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/usr.bin Makefile src/lib Makefile src/etc/mtree BSD.usr.dist src Makefile.inc1 src/usr.bin/vi Makefile src/usr.bin/tclsh Makefile src/lib/libtcl Makefile
Message-ID:  <35F37E9D.3B9582B3@dal.net>
References:  <17203.905074634@time.cdrom.com>

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Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:
> 
> > I'm not bitching about Tcl, I'm bitching about the necessity of
> > including it in the base system. Tcl is relatively big (comparing
> 
> Then come up with a better way of having something in the "base"
> system like the new installer (which is TCL based) and the new package
> system (which is TCL based) somehow get the bits they need during a
> world build, assuming that the user may or may not have the ports
> collection on their machine (which is a reasonable assumption).

    The last time this topic came up a lot of people said that the cost
of having tcl in the base was higher than the value of the new tools.
THAT is the true cost/benefit analysis. "We are adding tools that need
tcl, so we must have tcl in the base" is a red herring argument. 

    The fact that new tools that don't use tcl might not get written is
not a factor for me, although it may be for others. 

Doug
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