From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 29 2:13:55 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4299237B401 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 02:13:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA29468; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:13:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6T9DmA01092; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:13:48 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 11:13:48 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Donald Burr of Borg Cc: FreeBSD Alpha Mailing List Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on an AlphaPC 164LX - Alpha newbie needs help Message-ID: <20010729111348.B1033@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <000f01c117d4$7099fc90$0700a8c0@collective.borgcube.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000f01c117d4$7099fc90$0700a8c0@collective.borgcube.com>; from dburr@borg-cube.com on Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 07:16:13PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sat, Jul 28, 2001 at 07:16:13PM -0700, Donald Burr of Borg wrote: > While cleaning out an equipment room at work, I found a fun new toy to play > with: an Aspen Systems Durango AlphaPC 164LX system. (DEC 21164, 533 MHz) Nice.. > It's got NT installed on it right now. This is totally unacceptable -- I'd Yes, very unacceptable. > * This machine currently has the AlphaBIOS firmware on it (is this the same > as ARC?) I understand that I will need SRM in order to boot/install ARC != AlphaBIOS. AlphaBIOS came later into the game. But never mind, you need SRM anyway, neither ARC or AlphaBIOS are usable with *BSD. > FreeBSD. I am kind of leery of flashing my BIOS, and I would like to be > able to go back to AlphaBIOS if I ever want to run NT on this machine. > (This machine came from a 3-D shop, and thus the NT drive has a whole bunch > of nifty 3-D modeling, animation, etc. software on it, which I may want to > play with at some point down the line.) > > The FreeBSD/alpha INSTALL.TXT file mentions: > In some cases, it is possible to switch between AlphaBIOS (or ARC) > firmware and SRM. > > Is this possible with my hardware? If so, how do I set it up? Depends on if the machine has enough flashrom to hold both. I suggest digging thru the AlphaBIOS menus if you can find an option to select Unix or VMS. That is what my Miatas have. If it has, select Unix and powercycle. That should give you the SRM. > If not, then I guess I will have to flash to an SRM image. If I do this, is > it possible to flash back to AlphaBIOS if I should ever desire to? Or is it > possible to somehow boot WinNT from within SRM? No, NT needs Abios. > * It currently has a Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro video card in it. This card, > I believe, uses the 3DLabs GLINT chipset. How well is this supported by > XFree86? Whieh version should I use (3.x or 4.x?) ENOCLUE, I run my alphas headless. > * This machine has an "DECchip 21140" 10/100 ethernet controller on it. I > believe it should work with the FreeBSD "dc" driver? (or was that the "de" > driver?) Yes, that card is ok. You will see which driver in GENERIC catches it ;-) > * Windows NT has this nifty little software called "FX!32" that lets you run > Windows NT/x86 binaries on the Alpha. I *believe* that there is a similar > piece of software available for Linux/alpha. What about FreeBSD? NetBSD? Not that I know of in the BSD world. Linux could be. > Anyway, thanks in advance for whatever advise you can offer, and please > excuse these questions from an Alpha newbie. Thanks all! No problem. I like to know the outcome of the AlphaBIOS/SRM thingy, so that I can update my docs accordingly. W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 29 7:40: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E39F737B405 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats@FreeBSD.org) Received: (from gnats@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6TEe1h94276; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:40:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gnats) Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F10A537B403 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 07:33:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thomas.Pornin@ens.fr) Received: from bolet.ens.fr (bolet.ens.fr [129.199.99.10]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f6TEXrm32474 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:33:53 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (pornin@localhost) by bolet.ens.fr (8.11.3/jb-1.1) Message-Id: <200107291433.f6TEXqV00589@bolet.ens.fr> Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:33:52 +0200 (CEST) From: thomas.pornin@ens.fr Reply-To: thomas.pornin@ens.fr To: FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org X-Send-Pr-Version: 3.113 Subject: alpha/29299: Tekram DC390 not supported on FreeBSD Alpha 4.3 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org >Number: 29299 >Category: alpha >Synopsis: FreeBSD 4.3 Alpha + Tekram SCSI adapter panics >Confidential: no >Severity: non-critical >Priority: medium >Responsible: freebsd-alpha >State: open >Quarter: >Keywords: >Date-Required: >Class: sw-bug >Submitter-Id: current-users >Arrival-Date: Sun Jul 29 07:40:00 PDT 2001 >Closed-Date: >Last-Modified: >Originator: Thomas Pornin >Release: FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE alpha >Organization: Ecole Normale Superieure >Environment: System: FreeBSD bolet 4.3-RELEASE FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE #0: Sun Jul 29 15:56:49 CEST 2001 root@bolet:/usr/src/sys/compile/BOLET alpha This is a PWS 500a with: -- 576 MB ram -- Qlogic ISP SCSI adapter -- Tekram DC390 SCSI adapter with external Iomega ZIP drive >Description: The GENERIC kernel does not include support for the Tekram SCSI adapter. I recompiled a kernel with the 'device amd' line. At the end of the SCSI delay (set to 8 seconds in my setup), the kernel enters a fatal trap related to memory management. I tried with a debug kernel, the trap is triggered by the line 455 in alpha/alpha/busdma_machdep.c, function bus_dmamap_load(): if (map->pagesneeded != 0) { apparently, at that point, "map" is equal to NULL, and the memory acces triggers the trap. I tried to replace that line with the following: if (map && map->pagesneeded != 0) { (and something similar for another access to map->pagesneeded line 491), but then the machine crashes later with an "unexpected machine check" (mces = 0x1, vector = 0x660, param = 0xfffffc0000006068). I believe it is not standard behaviour that bus_dmamap_load() is called with a NULL map. The very same kernel, without the 'amd' support, boots and runs fine. The Tekram card and Zip drive are functionnal (they work on the same machine under Linux). >How-To-Repeat: Just try to boot an Alpha machine with a Tekram adapter and support compiled in the kernel. Maybe the fact that there is no disk in the Zip drive is important. >Fix: None included. I guess the amd driver requires some tweekings. I have some spare time for the next three weeks, and am willing to help; but I do not know where to begin. >Release-Note: >Audit-Trail: >Unformatted: To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 29 12: 2:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from private.as (ppp-2-38.cvx6.telinco.net [212.1.135.38]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7D71C37B403 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 12:02:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jokeline@private.as) From: "John" To: Subject: Have a good laugh! 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I'd much rather chase these hypothetical individuals > away, or at least offer them a more useful and relevant alternative. The reductio ad absurdum of your argument is obvious: "So how about we do away with the x86 code, and let them use Linux or Windows 2000, since there's more software available for either of them?" > > What does diking out the code buy you, apart from less code > > in a checked out source tree, a bigger Attic, and a large > > CVSsup/CTM delta for everyone to have to swallow? > > It takes away the "moral high ground" perceived by persons such as > yourself to perpetuate support for, or argue against changes which > prejudice, obsolete, unused and irrelevant hardware. You mean like when Garret Wollman changed the routing code, and didn't update the X.25 code or the ISODE code, and so broke both of them? Or you mean like the Adaptec 1540/1542/1740/1742 were orphaned for a long time, after the "CAM of Worms". I view this as a maintenance issue. This is really a wierd conversation to be having on the -alpha list, considering the Alpha is all but dead itself, now that Compaq has rolled over for Intel -- it is the epitomy, now, of "obsolete, unused and irrelevant hardware". > We don't support the TC machines. It's foolish to pretend > otherwise, and simply makes for distractions at various levels. > The code should go. The code is not used unless it's optioned in; why dike out something which is harmless? I don't see you getting a "moral high ground" out of the act, I just see you attacking the size of the potential user base for FreeBSD. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 29 16:11:23 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from panzer.kdm.org (panzer.kdm.org [216.160.178.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CA5A837B401; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:11:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from ken@panzer.kdm.org) Received: (from ken@localhost) by panzer.kdm.org (8.9.3/8.9.1) id RAA75328; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:11:15 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from ken) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 17:11:15 -0600 From: "Kenneth D. Merry" To: Terry Lambert Cc: Mike Smith , mjacob@feral.com, Wilko Bulte , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: RFC: Removing support for TurboChannel machines from -current Message-ID: <20010729171115.A75235@panzer.kdm.org> References: <200107282113.f6SLDXJ02660@mass.dis.org> <3B6472CD.CA7AEF89@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2i In-Reply-To: <3B6472CD.CA7AEF89@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 01:32:13PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, Jul 29, 2001 at 13:32:13 -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Mike Smith wrote: > > > Let's not chase away someone who might take you up on your > > > offer in the future by deleting the existing code today. > > > > I disagree here. I'd much rather chase these hypothetical individuals > > away, or at least offer them a more useful and relevant alternative. > > The reductio ad absurdum of your argument is obvious: > > "So how about we do away with the x86 code, and let > them use Linux or Windows 2000, since there's more > software available for either of them?" > > > > What does diking out the code buy you, apart from less code > > > in a checked out source tree, a bigger Attic, and a large > > > CVSsup/CTM delta for everyone to have to swallow? > > > > It takes away the "moral high ground" perceived by persons such as > > yourself to perpetuate support for, or argue against changes which > > prejudice, obsolete, unused and irrelevant hardware. > > You mean like when Garret Wollman changed the routing code, > and didn't update the X.25 code or the ISODE code, and so > broke both of them? > > Or you mean like the Adaptec 1540/1542/1740/1742 were orphaned > for a long time, after the "CAM of Worms". Watch your examples. I think you mean the 1520/1522. The aha and ahb drivers were committed on September 15, 1998, along with the rest of CAM. Luoqi committed the aic(4) driver a little over a year later. (I'm glad someone decided to write it.) > I view this as a maintenance issue. > > This is really a wierd conversation to be having on the -alpha > list, considering the Alpha is all but dead itself, now that > Compaq has rolled over for Intel -- it is the epitomy, now, of > "obsolete, unused and irrelevant hardware". > > > > We don't support the TC machines. It's foolish to pretend > > otherwise, and simply makes for distractions at various levels. > > The code should go. > > The code is not used unless it's optioned in; why dike out > something which is harmless? I don't see you getting a "moral > high ground" out of the act, I just see you attacking the size > of the potential user base for FreeBSD. FWIW, I've got a borrowed (the owner doesn't want it back) DEC 3000/120 box. At one point a couple of years ago, I started work on an esp driver for CAM, but never got around to finishing it. Anyway, I guess my take on this whole thing is I would rather leave the TC code in the tree, just in case I or someone else come along and feel like making it work. (The box boots diskless just fine, it's just the SCSI controller that isn't supported.) I don't feel too strongly about it, though, I can always run NetBSD on the box. Ken -- Kenneth Merry ken@kdm.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Sun Jul 29 16:45: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (unknown [204.97.17.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B6E037B409 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 16:45:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f6TNixk27574 for ; Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2001 19:44:59 -0400 (EDT) From: Trevor Johnson To: Subject: Re: RFC: Removing support for TurboChannel machines from -current In-Reply-To: <3B6472CD.CA7AEF89@mindspring.com> Message-ID: <20010729170042.Y23159-100000@blues.jpj.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In HARDWARE.TXT there's a statement that the "Turbo Channel [bus] is not supported." Maybe RELNOTESng could just have something similar? -- Trevor Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 1:37:13 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5B54837B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 01:37:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:36:49 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:36:18 +0200 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on an AlphaPC 164LX - Alpha newbie needs help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Donald Burr of Borg, > * I am pretty sure that my particular machine is compatible with > FreeBSD. (I see "PC164LX" as listed as being compatible in > HARDWARE.TXT) Is anyone successfully running FreeBSD on one of > these beasts? How does it perform? I have the exact same machine, with the same processor and same graphic card. I can't comment on it's performance yet as I just installed FreeBSD last week. It appears to be fast tough, as in lightning. > The FreeBSD/alpha INSTALL.TXT file mentions: In some cases, it is > possible to switch between AlphaBIOS (or ARC) firmware and SRM. > > Is this possible with my hardware? If so, how do I set it up? > If not, then I guess I will have to flash to an SRM image. > If I do this, is it possible to flash back to AlphaBIOS if I > should ever desire to? Or is it possible to somehow boot WinNT > from within SRM? Yes, you need SRM. No, it can't hold both SRM and AlphaBIOS, and no, you can't boot NT from SRM (at least to my knowledge). You'll have to choose one of them. You can find the latest of both here: ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/index.html=20 From a previous posting I made to a Linux list, it should be possible to revert back to AlphaBIOS later simply by updating the firmware again with the latest version of AlphaBIOS. I haven't tried it though. > * It currently has a Diamond Fire GL 1000 Pro video card in it. > This card, I believe, uses the 3DLabs GLINT chipset. > How well is this supported by XFree86? Whieh version should > I use (3.x or 4.x?) I have the same card. No it's not a GLINT, it's a Permedia 2 (still 3DLabs though). I'm currently trying to get X working on mine, and it has turned out to be less than straight forward.=20 When the configuration asks you, you say yes to GLINT which will build the 3DLabs server for you (provided you build XFree86 3.3.x). As of Friday last week, I finally got 3.3.x running, but with a non-functional keyboard. I choose to include extended input support, which meant fixing /usr/ports/x11/XFree86/work/xc/programs/Xserver/ hw/xfree86/common/x86Kbd.c during make install because it was missing an include file (sys/kbio.h or kbdio.h, I don't remember right now). Without extend input support, it breaks in the same place, but in x86Event(s?).c, complaining that there's no definition for something called mevent or m_event, which is true. I tried the 4.x version too, but then it stopped in /usr/ports/x11/ XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel/list.c with a lot of complaints resembeling 64-bit "uncleanliness". In the same directory, in it's subdirectories, there are symlniks called "machine" which point to /sys/i386/include. You'll have to manually fix that first before you get to the errors with list.c. I'll get back to it when I've gotten 3.3.x working. I was thinking of writing a longer mail with more in-depth explanation when I get things working. However, it's at least looking very promising for 3.3.x. > * This machine has an "DECchip 21140" 10/100 ethernet controller > on it. I believe it should work with the FreeBSD "dc" driver? > (or was that the "de" driver?) I have no idea, but from what I've read, that card is one of the better supported once. I've had hell myself with my own NICs. I've tried a 3C905, a 3C905B, an Intel EEPro 10/100 and an Adaptec ANA-62011. All, except the EEpro, fail with a watchdog timeout upon ifconfig. No solution has so far presented itself. I have written to the author of the 3Com and Adaptec drivers, but so far I have received no reply. Others on the list seems to think it's an interrupt problem. I'm leaning toward an explanation related to the use of the MII interface. Time will tell. > * Windows NT has this nifty little software called "FX!32" that > lets you run Windows NT/x86 binaries on the Alpha. I *believe* > that there is a similar piece of software available for Linux/alpha. > What about FreeBSD? NetBSD? There's supposed to be emulation available to run Linux binaries, but I have a feeling that only applies to the i386 platform. Others will probably be able to give you a more definitve answer. I suppose the program you refer too is em86 for Linux/Alpha, which would let you run Linux/i386 binaries. I haven't seen anything like it for FreeBSD, but it shouldn't bee needed anyway if the previously mentioned emulation works on Alpha. Besides, I could never get em86 to work on Linux/Alpha anyway. It is, however, possible to run OSF/1 binaries on FreeBSD/Alpha. Nifty. Good luck. And if you get X running, I would love to hear how you did it. Also bear in mind that all I've said relates to 4.3-RELEASE. - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 3:19:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from iona.dcs.gla.ac.uk (iona.dcs.gla.ac.uk [130.209.240.35]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07F2C37B403 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 03:19:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from neugebar@dcs.gla.ac.uk) Received: from therese.dcs.gla.ac.uk ([130.209.241.134] helo=therese.dcs.gla.ac.uk.dcs.gla.ac.uk) by iona.dcs.gla.ac.uk with esmtp (Exim 3.13 #1) id 15RA8n-00061W-00; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:19:13 +0100 Received: by therese.dcs.gla.ac.uk.dcs.gla.ac.uk (8.11.3/Dumb) id f6UAJ7155719; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:19:07 +0100 (BST) To: "Idar Tollefsen" Cc: , Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on an AlphaPC 164LX - Alpha newbie needs help References: From: Rolf Neugebauer Date: 30 Jul 2001 11:19:05 +0100 In-Reply-To: "Idar Tollefsen"'s message of "Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:36:18 +0200" Message-ID: Lines: 68 User-Agent: Gnus/5.0805 (Gnus v5.8.5) Emacs/20.7 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Idar Tollefsen" writes: > Donald Burr of Borg, [snip] > > The FreeBSD/alpha INSTALL.TXT file mentions: In some cases, it is > > possible to switch between AlphaBIOS (or ARC) firmware and SRM. > > > > Is this possible with my hardware? If so, how do I set it up? > > If not, then I guess I will have to flash to an SRM image. > > If I do this, is it possible to flash back to AlphaBIOS if I > > should ever desire to? Or is it possible to somehow boot WinNT > > from within SRM? > > Yes, you need SRM. No, it can't hold both SRM and AlphaBIOS, > and no, you can't boot NT from SRM (at least to my knowledge). > You'll have to choose one of them. You can find the latest of > both here: > > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/index.html > > From a previous posting I made to a Linux list, it should be > possible to revert back to AlphaBIOS later simply by updating > the firmware again with the latest version of AlphaBIOS. > I haven't tried it though. This is indeed possible. However, you might not want to flash too often. Apart from the risk of getting it wrong, I vaguely recall some discussion over on the Alpha/Linux mailing list that this is not a good idea to do too often. In the past, I occasionally booted a different firmware from a floppy or network just like you would boot an OS. That essentially gets you into another firmware. For example, I have "booted" the srm and/or AlphaBIOS image from the debug monitor (yet another alpha firmware) and then used it to boot Linux. Ugly, but, IIRC, it worked for me. [snip graphics and network card stuff] > > * Windows NT has this nifty little software called "FX!32" that > > lets you run Windows NT/x86 binaries on the Alpha. I *believe* > > that there is a similar piece of software available for Linux/alpha. > > What about FreeBSD? NetBSD? > > There's supposed to be emulation available to run Linux binaries, but > I have a feeling that only applies to the i386 platform. Others will > probably be able to give you a more definitve answer. You should be able to run Alpha/Linux binaries on Alpha/FreeBSD. However, there are only very few Alpha/Linux binary only tools out there, e.g., Compaq's C and Fortran compiler. > I suppose the program you refer too is em86 for Linux/Alpha, which > would let you run Linux/i386 binaries. I haven't seen anything like > it for FreeBSD, but it shouldn't bee needed anyway if the previously > mentioned emulation works on Alpha. Besides, I could never get em86 > to work on Linux/Alpha anyway. The last time I tried em86 on Linux it was quite buggy, i.e., crashed my box, and, IIRC, there was no maintainer for it at the time. IIRC em86 wasn't quite as cunning as FX!32 as it didn't incrementally binary translate/optimise the Ix86 binary and stored the result for future use. In practise, I haven't had the need for intel emulation sofar, as with Tru64 emulation and libraries (part of the ports collection: emulators/osf1_base) both netscape and acroread work. All the other tools I use are available in source code form and are in the ports collection. Rolf To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 4:30:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.inka.de (quechua.inka.de [212.227.14.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B8337B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 04:30:36 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from daemon@mips.inka.de) Received: from kemoauc.mips.inka.de (uucp@) by mail.inka.de with local-bsmtp id 15RBFr-0007lZ-00; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:30:35 +0200 Received: (from daemon@localhost) by kemoauc.mips.inka.de (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f6UB3s581425 for freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:03:55 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from daemon) From: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on an AlphaPC 164LX - Alpha newbie needs help Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:03:52 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <9k3euo$2epn$1@kemoauc.mips.inka.de> References: Originator: naddy@mips.inka.de (Christian Weisgerber) To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Idar Tollefsen wrote: > I've had hell myself with my own NICs. I've tried a 3C905, a 3C905B, > an Intel EEPro 10/100 and an Adaptec ANA-62011. I have a 3C905 working fine in my PC164. (5.0-CURRENT.) > There's supposed to be emulation available to run Linux binaries, but > I have a feeling that only applies to the i386 platform. No, our Linux compatibility layer is multi-platform. FreeBSD/alpha can run Linux/alpha executables. -- Christian "naddy" Weisgerber naddy@mips.inka.de To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 6: 5:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B25D137B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 06:05:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leclercn@videotron.ca) Received: from atom.quanta.ca ([24.202.188.149]) by VL-MS-MR001.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GHAF1T00.EHW for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:05:53 -0400 Received: from phobos (phobos.quanta.ca [192.168.56.22]) by atom.quanta.ca (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id f6UD5akV003175 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:05:37 -0400 (EDT) From: "Normand Leclerc" To: Subject: Serial console gettytab Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:05:57 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c118f8$5f5cae30$1638a8c0@phobos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org To everyone for whom the serial console is working: I have never been able to get a fully working serial console on my Alpha. The thing keeps loosing characters (and a lot of them). The weird thing is that the SRM isn't loosing any. I am now wondering if the gettytab entry is properly set up. I'd like to know your entry. I am using the gettytab from the 4.3 distribution right now. I tried to modify it but I kept loosing chars. My system is a 164sx running on -stable. Normand Leclerc leclercn@videotron.ca To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 7:24: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [206.40.252.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97D5C37B403 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:23:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f6UENdj57420; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:23:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:23:39 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Normand Leclerc Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial console gettytab Message-ID: <20010730072339.A57400@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <000001c118f8$5f5cae30$1638a8c0@phobos> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <000001c118f8$5f5cae30$1638a8c0@phobos>; from leclercn@videotron.ca on Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 09:05:57AM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 09:05:57AM -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > I have never been able to get a fully working serial console on my > Alpha. The thing keeps loosing characters (and a lot of them). The > weird thing is that the SRM isn't loosing any. I am now wondering if > the gettytab entry is properly set up. Is it possible, what are you using for your console? Is it possible, it is loosing characters? At what speed are you running the serial line at? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 7:54:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [206.40.252.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA88837B403 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:54:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f6UErp157819; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:53:51 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 07:53:50 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, dburr@borg-cube.com Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on an AlphaPC 164LX - Alpha newbie needs help Message-ID: <20010730075350.F57400@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@freebsd.org References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no on Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 10:36:18AM +0200 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 10:36:18AM +0200, Idar Tollefsen wrote: > Yes, you need SRM. No, it can't hold both SRM and AlphaBIOS, > and no, you can't boot NT from SRM (at least to my knowledge). > You'll have to choose one of them. You can find the latest of > both here: > > ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/index.html You actually want to skip that page. For the 164LX it really only addresses how to update your AlphaBIOS firmware. The directions are *much* better at ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/archive/pc164lx/ You want ftp://ftp.digital.com/pub/DEC/Alpha/firmware/v6.0/alphapc164lx/lx164srm.rom Format a FAT (ms-dos) floppy, and copy lx164srm.rom onto it. From w/in AlphaBIOS, select update AlphaBIOS firmware. -- David To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 9: 2: 1 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f97.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.37.97]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6718137B406 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:01:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicholsmi@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 09:01:51 -0700 Received: from 63.198.170.141 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:01:51 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.198.170.141] From: "Mike Nichols" To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:01:51 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2001 16:01:51.0564 (UTC) FILETIME=[F22310C0:01C11910] Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I have an old AlphaStation 400 that I'm trying to get FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE running on. As long as I use the serial console, everything works beautifully. But I can't for the life of me get the internal console to work with SRM and/or FreeBSD! If I switch to the ARC console ("set os_type nt" and power-cycle), the menus come up on the monitor as expected. But trying to set SRM to use the monitor ("set console graphics" and "init") doesn't work. The monitor just shows "out of scan range". The keyboard works (I can do "set console serial" and "init" on the keyboard and it'll come back on the serial console again), but nothing shows up on the monitor. Furthermore, when I boot, regardless of whether the "console" env var is set to serial or graphics, sc0 is NOT detected. I don't really need the SRM on the monitor, but I'd like to be able to use the keyboard/monitor to log in and stuff. So, to recap: serial console workos fine. This is not a problem with the video card or monitor since ARC works fine. SRM can take input from the keyboard, but will not display anything on the monitor (monitor shows "out of scan range"). "set console graphics" doesn't help. If anybody can shed any light on this, I'd greatly appreciate it. Thanks. Mike Nichols _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 10: 7:39 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from poptart.bithose.com (poptart.bithose.com [208.171.236.145]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7318D37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:07:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jakari@bithose.com) Received: from localhost (jakari@localhost) by poptart.bithose.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6UH6TZ58761; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:06:29 -0400 (EDT) X-Authentication-Warning: poptart.bithose.com: jakari owned process doing -bs Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:06:29 -0400 (EDT) From: Jameel Akari To: Mike Nichols Cc: Subject: Re: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > running on. As long as I use the serial console, everything works > beautifully. But I can't for the life of me get the internal console to > work with SRM and/or FreeBSD! If I switch to the ARC console ("set os_type Who wants to bet this is the same TGA (21030) issue I had last week with my Alphastation 200? Check your video card. It's probably a 21030-based card. Mine has four dipswitches on it. Try flipping one or more of them- these select the console video mode. The default is (I think) 1280x1024 at some weird vertical rate. Reset and you should see the SRM come up if the mode is something your monitor can support. I don't have a table of these swicth settings nor can I find one on line, but I have mine in a usable 1024x768 mode. However.. this won't help as far as FreeBSD is concerned. No console support for the TGA cards. The kernel will start, but the installer hangs because it doesn't have a driver for the video. I found that it all worked in serial console as well. Replacing the video card with a ATI Mach64 worked to get it fully functional with local KB+graphics. A TGA driver is on its way. #!/jameel/akari for zig in $(find / -name zig); do rm -f $zig; done; export GREAT_JUSTICE=1 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 10:23:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from albert.ies.net (albert.ies.net [208.193.197.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA26337B40B for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:23:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmontal@polibrid.com) Received: from DM ([208.241.30.123]) by albert.ies.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-50103U5000L500S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:19:25 -0700 Reply-To: From: dmontal@polibrid.com (Diego Montalvo) To: Subject: 4.3 Alpha on CD-Rom Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:13:26 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org hello, I am interested in purchasing a CD-Rom with FreeBSD 4.3 Alpha. When is 4.3 Alpha going to be released on cd-rom? Thanks, Diego Montalvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 10:26:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from albert.ies.net (albert.ies.net [208.193.197.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4A2EF37B403 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 10:26:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmontal@polibrid.com) Received: from DM ([208.241.30.123]) by albert.ies.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-50103U5000L500S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:22:47 -0700 Reply-To: From: dmontal@polibrid.com (Diego Montalvo) To: Subject: freebsd 4.3 alpha on cdrom? Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:16:53 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Does anyone know where I can get FreeBSD 4.3 Alpha on CD-rom? Thanks, Diego Montalvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 11:36:52 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C30CD37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:36:49 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA08723 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:36:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 11:36:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: 1200 & boot problems Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Did the fix for getting the install to boot on the 1200's ever get into the 4-x branch? So far the 1200 at work as been cvsup'ing from time to time along 4-STABLE, but someday I'll probably want (or have to if something really tragic happens) to do a fresh install on this. I'd love to be able to do this with plain install media. -Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 12:39: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f169.pav2.hotmail.com [64.4.37.169]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6ECBC37B405 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:39:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from nicholsmi@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:39:05 -0700 Received: from 63.198.170.141 by pv2fd.pav2.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:39:05 GMT X-Originating-IP: [63.198.170.141] From: "Mike Nichols" To: jakari@bithose.com Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 19:39:05 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 30 Jul 2001 19:39:05.0252 (UTC) FILETIME=[4AD20640:01C1192F] Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > running on. As long as I use the serial console, everything works > > beautifully. But I can't for the life of me get the internal console to > > work with SRM and/or FreeBSD! If I switch to the ARC console ("set >os_type > > Who wants to bet this is the same TGA (21030) issue I had last >week with my Alphastation 200? > > Check your video card. It's probably a 21030-based card. Mine >has four dipswitches on it. Try flipping one or more of them- these >select the console video mode. The default is (I think) 1280x1024 at some >weird vertical rate. Reset and you should see the SRM come up if the mode >is something your monitor can support. I don't have a table of these >swicth settings nor can I find one on line, but I have mine in a usable >1024x768 mode. > > However.. this won't help as far as FreeBSD is concerned. No >console support for the TGA cards. The kernel will start, but the >installer hangs because it doesn't have a driver for the video. OK. You're right on about the dip switches. Flipping any one of them will get the SRM console on the monitor. However, you aren't exactly right about how it won't work with FreeBSD. In my case, I already had a system installed, so it might well be hanging with the installer. While in the loader, everything is peachy perfect. But beyond that isn't so great. I can see the boot message, but getty won't come up on it, and I think it's lost keyboard access (DDB hotkey doesn't work). Moreover, sc0 (syscons) is still not getting detected, which would explain all the symptoms (no pcvt, either, as far as I can tell). Any further clues? Also, did you mean that it won't work with console, or with the X Window System? I'm more interested in just a text-based console for now. >A TGA driver is on its way. You're writing a TGA driver? Excellent! Thanks for the insight. Mike Nichols P.S. Sorry if this mailer (if you can call it that) defaces the message. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 12:51:14 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48ED937B41B for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:50:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.217]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id MAA02519 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:50:57 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:50:58 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: alpha@FreeBSD.org Subject: FW: PATCH: Make ast's loop Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----FW: ----- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 12:46:06 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: PATCH: Make ast's loop Cc: bde@FreeBSD.org I have a patch to close some races with receiving AST's while handling other AST's. Unfortunately due to my office being moved all my test machines are unavailable at the moment, so I'd like people to test it for me on SMP machines and alpha. I'll include it below, but my mailer may mangle it, so here is a URL as well: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/ast.patch Index: kern/subr_trap.c =================================================================== RCS file: /usr/cvs/src/sys/kern/subr_trap.c,v retrieving revision 1.196 diff -u -r1.196 subr_trap.c --- kern/subr_trap.c 2001/07/04 15:36:30 1.196 +++ kern/subr_trap.c 2001/07/17 22:54:42 @@ -72,9 +72,9 @@ while ((sig = CURSIG(p)) != 0) postsig(sig); mtx_unlock(&Giant); + PROC_UNLOCK(p); mtx_lock_spin(&sched_lock); - PROC_UNLOCK_NOSWITCH(p); p->p_pri.pri_level = p->p_pri.pri_user; if (resched_wanted(p)) { /* @@ -96,24 +96,22 @@ while ((sig = CURSIG(p)) != 0) postsig(sig); mtx_unlock(&Giant); - mtx_lock_spin(&sched_lock); - PROC_UNLOCK_NOSWITCH(p); - } + PROC_UNLOCK(p); + } else + mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); /* * Charge system time if profiling. */ - if (p->p_sflag & PS_PROFIL) { - mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); + if (p->p_sflag & PS_PROFIL) addupc_task(p, TRAPF_PC(frame), (u_int)(p->p_sticks - oticks) * psratio); - } else - mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); } /* * Process an asynchronous software trap. * This is relatively easy. + * This function will return with interrupts disabled. */ void ast(framep) @@ -121,67 +119,54 @@ { struct proc *p = CURPROC; u_quad_t sticks; + critical_t s; #if defined(DEV_NPX) && !defined(SMP) int ucode; #endif KASSERT(TRAPF_USERMODE(framep), ("ast in kernel mode")); - - /* - * We check for a pending AST here rather than in the assembly as - * acquiring and releasing mutexes in assembly is not fun. - */ - mtx_lock_spin(&sched_lock); - if (!(astpending(p) || resched_wanted(p))) { - mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); - return; - } - - sticks = p->p_sticks; - p->p_frame = framep; - - astoff(p); - cnt.v_soft++; - mtx_intr_enable(&sched_lock); - if (p->p_sflag & PS_OWEUPC) { - p->p_sflag &= ~PS_OWEUPC; - mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); - mtx_lock(&Giant); - addupc_task(p, p->p_stats->p_prof.pr_addr, - p->p_stats->p_prof.pr_ticks); + s = critical_enter(); + while (astpending(p) || resched_wanted(p)) { + critical_exit(s); + sticks = p->p_sticks; + p->p_frame = framep; mtx_lock_spin(&sched_lock); - } - if (p->p_sflag & PS_ALRMPEND) { - p->p_sflag &= ~PS_ALRMPEND; + astoff(p); + cnt.v_soft++; mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); - PROC_LOCK(p); - psignal(p, SIGVTALRM); - PROC_UNLOCK(p); - mtx_lock_spin(&sched_lock); - } + if (p->p_sflag & PS_OWEUPC) + addupc_task(p, p->p_stats->p_prof.pr_addr, + p->p_stats->p_prof.pr_ticks); + if (p->p_sflag & PS_ALRMPEND) { + PROC_LOCK(p); + psignal(p, SIGVTALRM); + PROC_UNLOCK(p); + } #if defined(DEV_NPX) && !defined(SMP) - if (PCPU_GET(curpcb)->pcb_flags & PCB_NPXTRAP) { - PCPU_GET(curpcb)->pcb_flags &= ~PCB_NPXTRAP; - mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); - ucode = npxtrap(); - if (ucode != -1) { - if (!mtx_owned(&Giant)) - mtx_lock(&Giant); - trapsignal(p, SIGFPE, ucode); + if (PCPU_GET(curpcb)->pcb_flags & PCB_NPXTRAP) { + ucode = npxtrap(); + if (ucode != -1) { + if (!mtx_owned(&Giant)) + mtx_lock(&Giant); + trapsignal(p, SIGFPE, ucode); + } + } +#endif + if (p->p_sflag & PS_PROFPEND) { + PROC_LOCK(p); + psignal(p, SIGPROF); + PROC_UNLOCK(p); } mtx_lock_spin(&sched_lock); - } + p->p_sflag &= ~(PS_OWEUPC | PS_ALRMPEND | PS_PROFPEND); +#if defined(DEV_NPX) && !defined(SMP) + PCPU_GET(curpcb)->pcb_flags &= ~PCB_NPXTRAP; #endif - if (p->p_sflag & PS_PROFPEND) { - p->p_sflag &= ~PS_PROFPEND; mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); - PROC_LOCK(p); - psignal(p, SIGPROF); - PROC_UNLOCK(p); - } else - mtx_unlock_spin(&sched_lock); - userret(p, framep, sticks); + userret(p, framep, sticks); + s = critical_enter(); + } if (mtx_owned(&Giant)) mtx_unlock(&Giant); --------------End of forwarded message------------------------- -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 13:10:12 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from courriel.etsmtl.ca (courriel.etsmtl.ca [142.137.3.24]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E19137B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:10:01 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from normand.leclerc@lca.etsmtl.ca) Received: from hydra.etsmtl.ca (hydra.ele.etsmtl.ca [142.137.20.14]) by courriel.etsmtl.ca with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id P9GCBKLV; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:09:53 -0400 Received: from lca.etsmtl.ca (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hydra.etsmtl.ca (8.9.1b+Sun/8.9.1) with ESMTP id QAA14378; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:13:58 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <3B65C006.EF569FBD@lca.etsmtl.ca> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:13:58 -0400 From: Normand Leclerc Reply-To: leclercn@videotron.ca X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.61 [en] (X11; U; SunOS 5.7 sun4u) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Cc: Normand Leclerc Subject: Re: Serial console gettytab References: <000001c118f8$5f5cae30$1638a8c0@phobos> <20010730072339.A57400@dragon.nuxi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hmmm it seems I didn't put much information in my request... Sorry about that. I am running FreeBSD stable on a 164sx system. The SRM is of course set up as 9600bps and therefore, I've set the serial console the same. I can do many "show" commands in the SRM console without loosing a single character. FreeBSD boots up, no loss there. I begin loosing characters when entering runlevels. As soon as the SCSI subsystem is done with it's initialization, I begin loosing chars. I know my cable has CTS/RTS hooked right as the SRM is doing fine (and as I tested the cable using minicom at 115200). My console LOGIN gets screwed real bad. I found out that by using "ub" in the gettytab entry for unbuffered IOs helps a bit but I still am missing chars. It's as if the chars where sent out too fast. Normand Leclerc leclercn@videotron.ca David O'Brien wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 09:05:57AM -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > > I have never been able to get a fully working serial console on my > > Alpha. The thing keeps loosing characters (and a lot of them). The > > weird thing is that the SRM isn't loosing any. I am now wondering if > > the gettytab entry is properly set up. > > Is it possible, what are you using for your console? Is it possible, it > is loosing characters? At what speed are you running the serial line at? > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 13:44:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3AD3037B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:44:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6UKiEI88441; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:44:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 13:44:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Joseph Scott Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I don't think so. On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Joseph Scott wrote: > > Did the fix for getting the install to boot on the 1200's ever get > into the 4-x branch? So far the 1200 at work as been cvsup'ing from time > to time along 4-STABLE, but someday I'll probably want (or have to if > something really tragic happens) to do a fresh install on this. I'd love > to be able to do this with plain install media. > > -Joseph > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 14:14:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94F9E37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:14:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA07494; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:14:43 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6ULEgq02054; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:14:42 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:14:42 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Joseph Scott , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems Message-ID: <20010730231442.A1964@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 01:44:14PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 01:44:14PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > I don't think so. Whats more, I guess all the machine types that had problems boot the CD distribution media using 4.3R will still have the same problems in 4.4R. Or have I missed something? Wilko > > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Joseph Scott wrote: > > > > > Did the fix for getting the install to boot on the 1200's ever get > > into the 4-x branch? So far the 1200 at work as been cvsup'ing from time > > to time along 4-STABLE, but someday I'll probably want (or have to if > > something really tragic happens) to do a fresh install on this. I'd love > > to be able to do this with plain install media. > > > > -Joseph > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message ---end of quoted text--- -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 14:26:38 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5AB37B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:26:35 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6ULQTI89096; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:26:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:26:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Joseph Scott , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: <20010730231442.A1964@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Nope. On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 01:44:14PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > I don't think so. > > Whats more, I guess all the machine types that had problems boot the > CD distribution media using 4.3R will still have the same problems in 4.4R. > > Or have I missed something? > > Wilko > > > > > On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Joseph Scott wrote: > > > > > > > > Did the fix for getting the install to boot on the 1200's ever get > > > into the 4-x branch? So far the 1200 at work as been cvsup'ing from time > > > to time along 4-STABLE, but someday I'll probably want (or have to if > > > something really tragic happens) to do a fresh install on this. I'd love > > > to be able to do this with plain install media. > > > > > > -Joseph > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > ---end of quoted text--- > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 14:44:26 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFB7837B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:44:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04909; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:44:22 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f6ULhqx83091; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:43:52 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15205.54552.523218.48596@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:43:52 -0400 (EDT) To: "Idar Tollefsen" Cc: , Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on an AlphaPC 164LX - Alpha newbie needs help In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Idar Tollefsen writes: > I'm currently trying to get X working on mine, and it has turned > out to be less than straight forward. > <...> > I tried the 4.x version too, but then it stopped in /usr/ports/x11/ > XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel/list.c > with a lot of complaints resembeling 64-bit "uncleanliness". In the Have you tried updating to the latest version of the port? I fixed some breakage shortly after the introduction of XF86 4.1, but I don't remember exactly what the breakage was. In any case, I'm going to be building it for myself sometime in the next few days, I'll fix the port if it needs it. Stay tuned. > There's supposed to be emulation available to run Linux binaries, but > I have a feeling that only applies to the i386 platform. Others will > probably be able to give you a more definitve answer. FreeBSD/alpha runs Linux/alpha binaries. > I suppose the program you refer too is em86 for Linux/Alpha, which > would let you run Linux/i386 binaries. I haven't seen anything like > it for FreeBSD, but it shouldn't bee needed anyway if the previously > mentioned emulation works on Alpha. Besides, I could never get em86 > to work on Linux/Alpha anyway. One of the reasons why I never tried hard to get it working on FreeBSD/alpha :-( Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 14:46: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6D4437B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 14:46:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id RAA04945; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:46:04 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f6ULjZv83098; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:45:35 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15205.54655.324152.873565@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:45:35 -0400 (EDT) To: "Normand Leclerc" Cc: Subject: Re: Serial console gettytab In-Reply-To: <000001c118f8$5f5cae30$1638a8c0@phobos> References: <000001c118f8$5f5cae30$1638a8c0@phobos> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I never touched the gettytab setting & ran a serial console on over 10 FreeBSD/alpha boxes at my last job. Never saw the problems you're complaining about.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 15:40:57 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E5FFC37B401; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:40:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.217]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA10524; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:40:53 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 15:40:40 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: RE: PATCH: Make ast's loop Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 30-Jul-01 John Baldwin wrote: > I have a patch to close some races with receiving AST's while handling other > AST's. Unfortunately due to my office being moved all my test machines are > unavailable at the moment, so I'd like people to test it for me on SMP > machines > and alpha. I'll include it below, but my mailer may mangle it, so here is a > URL as well: http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/patches/ast.patch Doh, that is an older version of the patch and has a few bugs. :/ The version at the URL has been updated. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 16:15:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 23C4537B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:15:32 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id QAA12186; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:15:27 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:15:27 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Matthew Jacob , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: <20010730231442.A1964@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: # On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 01:44:14PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: # > # > I don't think so. # # Whats more, I guess all the machine types that had problems boot the # CD distribution media using 4.3R will still have the same problems in 4.4R. # # Or have I missed something? Who would be a good person to bug/encourage to get this in before 4.4R? I'd hoped this was going to go in before 4.3R, but I obviously didn't make that :-( I'd be more than willing to test it out on our 1200. -Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 16:22:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6323537B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:22:19 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (mjacob@wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6UNMEI90740; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:22:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 16:21:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Joseph Scott Cc: Wilko Bulte , Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010730162136.S57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Who would be a good person to bug/encourage to get this in before > 4.4R? I'd hoped this was going to go in before 4.3R, but I obviously > didn't make that :-( > > I'd be more than willing to test it out on our 1200. We could certainly back port it. But no testing would be done between now and FCS probably. -matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 17: 2:40 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3975037B403 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:02:38 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (mjacob@wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6V02TI91521; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:02:29 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 17:02:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Wilko Bulte , Andrew Gallatin Cc: , Joseph Scott Subject: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010730170122.C57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This does raise a question- should we risk the MFC? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 18: 4: 3 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 025A837B403 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:03:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (mjacob@wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6V13uI92540 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:03:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 18:03:39 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Subject: MFC'ing cdrom/floppy changes? Message-ID: <20010730180224.P57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org All I could actually chase down were 3 file changes- does anyone have any objection to having this committed and us doing testing over the next 2-3 weeks? Index: alpha/cdboot/Makefile =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/Makefile,v retrieving revision 1.3.2.1 diff -u -r1.3.2.1 Makefile --- alpha/cdboot/Makefile 2000/11/27 02:16:39 1.3.2.1 +++ alpha/cdboot/Makefile 2001/07/31 00:42:55 @@ -1,12 +1,11 @@ -# $FreeBSD: src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/Makefile,v 1.3.2.1 2000/11/27 02:16:39 obrien Exp $ +# $FreeBSD: src/sys/boot/alpha/cdboot/Makefile,v 1.5 2001/04/07 23:52:31 gallatin Exp $ -BINDIR= /boot BASE= cdboot PROG= ${BASE} NOMAN= -STRIP= +NEWVERSWHAT= "SRM CD9660 boot" alpha +LOAD_ADDRESS= ${PRIMARY_LOAD_ADDRESS} -${BASE}: ${BASE}-4.0R.gz.uu - uudecode -p ${.CURDIR}/${BASE}-4.0R.gz.uu | gunzip > ${BASE} +CFLAGS+= -DLOADER_CDROM_SUPPORT -.include +.include <${.CURDIR}/../common/Makefile.common> Index: alpha/libalpha/srmdisk.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/boot/alpha/libalpha/srmdisk.c,v retrieving revision 1.8.2.1 diff -u -r1.8.2.1 srmdisk.c --- alpha/libalpha/srmdisk.c 2000/03/16 18:13:25 1.8.2.1 +++ alpha/libalpha/srmdisk.c 2001/07/31 00:49:10 @@ -96,6 +96,8 @@ int bd_unit; /* SRM unit number */ int bd_namelen; int bd_flags; + int bd_fd; + int bd_opencount; } bdinfo [MAXBDDEV]; static int nbdinfo = 0; @@ -113,6 +115,8 @@ ret.bits = prom_getenv(PROM_E_BOOTED_DEV, bdinfo[0].bd_name, sizeof(bdinfo[0].bd_name)); bdinfo[0].bd_namelen = ret.u.retval; + bdinfo[0].bd_fd = -1; + bdinfo[0].bd_opencount = 0; nbdinfo++; return (0); @@ -155,7 +159,7 @@ struct disklabel *lp; int sector, slice, i; int error; - int unit; + int unit, fd; prom_return_t ret; va_start(args, f); @@ -169,11 +173,17 @@ } /* Call the prom to open the disk. */ - ret.bits = prom_open(bdinfo[unit].bd_name, bdinfo[unit].bd_namelen); - if (ret.u.status == 2) - return (ENXIO); - if (ret.u.status == 3) - return (EIO); + if (bdinfo[unit].bd_fd < 0) { + ret.bits = prom_open(bdinfo[unit].bd_name, bdinfo[unit].bd_namelen); + if (ret.u.status == 2) + return (ENXIO); + if (ret.u.status == 3) + return (EIO); + bdinfo[unit].bd_fd = fd = ret.u.retval; + } else { + fd = bdinfo[unit].bd_fd; + } + bdinfo[unit].bd_opencount++; od = (struct open_disk *) malloc(sizeof(struct open_disk)); if (!od) { @@ -182,7 +192,7 @@ } /* Look up SRM unit number, intialise open_disk structure */ - od->od_fd = ret.u.retval; + od->od_fd = fd; od->od_unit = dev->d_kind.srmdisk.unit; od->od_flags = bdinfo[od->od_unit].bd_flags; od->od_boff = 0; @@ -321,7 +331,11 @@ { struct open_disk *od = f->f_devdata; - (void)prom_close(od->od_fd); + bdinfo[od->od_unit].bd_opencount--; + if (bdinfo[od->od_unit].bd_opencount == 0) { + (void)prom_close(od->od_fd); + bdinfo[od->od_unit].bd_fd = -1; + } free(od); f->f_devdata = NULL; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 21: 4: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C5FBE37B403 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:04:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA10500; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:04:01 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f6V43WD83666; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:03:32 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15206.11795.898545.408520@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:03:31 -0400 (EDT) To: Cc: Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: <20010730170122.C57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> References: <20010730170122.C57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > > > This does raise a question- should we risk the MFC? > I think so, yes. If it makes it into a release-candidate, it will get tested. If it causes collateral damage, it can always be backed out. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 21: 7:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C044037B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:07:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (mjacob@wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6V47VI94123; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:07:31 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:07:13 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: <15206.11795.898545.408520@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20010730210548.G57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Drew- do you remember if it was anything else other than these 2 files- srmdisk.c and cdboot/Makefile? On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > > > > > This does raise a question- should we risk the MFC? > > > > I think so, yes. If it makes it into a release-candidate, it will get > tested. If it causes collateral damage, it can always be backed out. > > Drew > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 21: 8:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BDD7537B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:08:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (mjacob@wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6V48FI94155; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:08:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:07:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: <20010730210548.G57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> Message-ID: <20010730210747.H57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org (p.s.: I sent out a notive of '3' changes- there are only 2) On Mon, 30 Jul 2001, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > Drew- do you remember if it was anything else other than these 2 files- > srmdisk.c and cdboot/Makefile? > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > > > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > > > > > > > > This does raise a question- should we risk the MFC? > > > > > > > I think so, yes. If it makes it into a release-candidate, it will get > > tested. If it causes collateral damage, it can always be backed out. > > > > Drew > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 21:30:48 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 87FD937B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:30:45 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11215; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:30:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f6V4UES83723; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:30:14 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15206.13398.302211.198974@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:30:14 -0400 (EDT) To: Cc: Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: <20010730210548.G57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> References: <15206.11795.898545.408520@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> <20010730210548.G57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Matthew Jacob writes: > > Drew- do you remember if it was anything else other than these 2 files- > srmdisk.c and cdboot/Makefile? > Yes, I think the fix was originally from "Michael Richards" , and then cleaned up some by Doug. It only touched srmdisk.c. The cdboot Makefile is required in order for the new loader to be used & was committed to -current by me after tracking down some cd9660 breakage.. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 21:39:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D0C237B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:39:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from wonky.feral.com (mjacob@wonky.feral.com [192.67.166.7]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6V4dNI94585; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:39:23 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:39:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob Reply-To: To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: <15206.13398.302211.198974@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: <20010730213854.U57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > > > Drew- do you remember if it was anything else other than these 2 files- > > srmdisk.c and cdboot/Makefile? > > > > Yes, I think the fix was originally from "Michael Richards" > , and then cleaned up some by Doug. It only > touched srmdisk.c. The cdboot Makefile is required in order for the > new loader to be used & was committed to -current by me after tracking > down some cd9660 breakage.. was the cd9660 stuff MFCd? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 21:45:28 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A1E2637B401 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:45:25 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA11405; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:45:24 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f6V4itM83752; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:44:55 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15206.14279.35850.251853@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:44:55 -0400 (EDT) To: "Idar Tollefsen" Cc: , Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on an AlphaPC 164LX - Alpha newbie needs help In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Idar Tollefsen writes: > > I tried the 4.x version too, but then it stopped in /usr/ports/x11/ > XFree86-4/work/xc/programs/Xserver/hw/os-support/bsd/drm/kernel/list.c > with a lot of complaints resembeling 64-bit "uncleanliness". In the > same directory, in it's subdirectories, there are symlniks called > "machine" which point to /sys/i386/include. You'll have to manually > fix that first before you get to the errors with list.c. I'll get > back to it when I've gotten 3.3.x working. Works fine & dandy on a 4.3-RELEASE machine with the latest version of the ports tree (available via CVSup). The only thing you need is to have kernel sources on your machine... I cheated and used the latest 4.3-STABLE sources for this. At any rate, I've left a package at http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/XFree86-4.1.0_4.tgz (57MB, md5 cksum = ad0cb8ea2caa8364ae454c2122e12846) Be warned this was compiled for ev56 and greater, so you wouldn't be able to use it on anything less. I'm typing this on a UP1000 with an Elsa Gloria Synergy running the X server from XF86 4.1.0 Speaking of X, has anybody built the server from XFree86's CVS repo? I'd like to get the RandR stuff so I can rotate my new flatscreen... Cheers, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Mon Jul 30 23:22:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4125E37B491 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:22:37 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tlambert2@mindspring.com) Received: from mindspring.com (dialup-209.247.143.182.Dial1.SanJose1.Level3.net [209.247.143.182]) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (EL-8_9_3_3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA12562; Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:22:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <3B664ECB.EC4E8059@mindspring.com> Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 23:23:07 -0700 From: Terry Lambert Reply-To: tlambert2@mindspring.com X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en]C-CCK-MCD {Sony} (Win98; U) X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mike Nichols Cc: jakari@bithose.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Mike Nichols wrote: > >A TGA driver is on its way. > > You're writing a TGA driver? Excellent! I think that the TGA driver was written about a month ago; it just hasn't been integrated yet. I have no idea what people are waiting for... perhaps we need an archbishop to bless the code before it can simply be committed, since it appears to work according to the people who have tried it. It's frequently amazing how long it takes to get apparently working code committed to the tree. -- Terry To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 8:46:35 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 625C037B42F for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:46:17 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.217]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id IAA27271; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:45:41 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <15206.11795.898545.408520@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 08:45:29 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Andrew Gallatin Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems Cc: freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.org, mjacob@feral.com Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-Jul-01 Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > Matthew Jacob writes: > > > > > > This does raise a question- should we risk the MFC? > > > > I think so, yes. If it makes it into a release-candidate, it will get > tested. If it causes collateral damage, it can always be backed out. Agreed. Test it early and often and we should be ok. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 11:25:25 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp8.xs4all.nl (smtp8.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.134]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86F7937B405 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:25:22 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp8.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA18755; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:25:20 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6VIPJ801752; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:25:19 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:25:19 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Terry Lambert Cc: Mike Nichols , jakari@bithose.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010731202519.B1582@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <3B664ECB.EC4E8059@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B664ECB.EC4E8059@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 11:23:07PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 11:23:07PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Mike Nichols wrote: > > >A TGA driver is on its way. > > > > You're writing a TGA driver? Excellent! > > I think that the TGA driver was written about a month ago; Much longer. > it just hasn't been integrated yet. I have no idea what > people are waiting for... perhaps we need an archbishop to > bless the code before it can simply be committed, since it No, an archbishop to commit it > appears to work according to the people who have tried it. > It's frequently amazing how long it takes to get apparently > working code committed to the tree. Probably because all this email takes so much time.. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 11:29:30 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBEAD37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:29:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id UAA26839; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:28:48 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6VIScN01779; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:28:38 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 20:28:38 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Joseph Scott Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems Message-ID: <20010731202838.C1582@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010730170122.C57563-100000@wonky.feral.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <20010730170122.C57563-100000@wonky.feral.com>; from mjacob@feral.com on Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 05:02:11PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 05:02:11PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > This does raise a question- should we risk the MFC? I would say yes here. This time is as good as any, at least we get people to test it. Just mu Eur 0.02 W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 11:50: 0 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from greenavenger.com (aleph.greenavenger.com [206.132.75.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 07FEF37B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:49:58 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cram@greenavenger.com) Received: from localhost (cram@localhost) by greenavenger.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA78903 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:49:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cram@greenavenger.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:49:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Alvidrez To: Subject: updating ssh In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010731111415.S2712-100000@aleph.greenavenger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am attempting to upgrade OpenSSH from 1.2.2 to 2.9 using the ports tree. While attempting to build both openssh and openssh-portable, the build process exits complaining about being unable to find shared library "crypto.2", which appears to be a part of openssl 0.9.6b. Since I'm running FreeBSD 4.0-STABLE #2: last updated on Tue Jun 20 18:01:58 PDT 2000 on an AlphaStation 200 4/233, I figure that the openssl included in the base install has been updated (understandably and probably pretty significantly!) and simply doesn't exist on my system. My question: Is there any way to update OpenSSH without rebuilding the entire system? This system has worked beautifly for me for quite some time, and prefer not to fix what aint broken. Also, I haven't kept up with this list and do not really know what sort of problems I can expect if I *do* have to attempt to make world. TIA, Marc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." -- Henry Spencer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 11:56:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from greenavenger.com (aleph.greenavenger.com [206.132.75.212]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A70FA37B406 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:56:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cram@greenavenger.com) Received: from localhost (cram@localhost) by greenavenger.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA79005 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from cram@greenavenger.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:56:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Marc Alvidrez To: Subject: spare cycles In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010731115004.X2712-100000@aleph.greenavenger.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I have spare cpu cycles on an Alpha running FreeBSD. Has anyone gotten a Seti@Home or distributed.net client running on your Alpha? -Marc ------------------------------------------------------------------------ "Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly." -- Henry Spencer To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 12: 6:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from pebkac.owp.csus.edu (pebkac.owp.csus.edu [130.86.232.245]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A4A0637B403 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 12:06:16 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Received: from localhost (scottj@localhost) by pebkac.owp.csus.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id LAA19059; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:39:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from joseph.scott@owp.csus.edu) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 11:39:00 -0700 (PDT) From: Joseph Scott X-Sender: scottj@pebkac.owp.csus.edu To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Matthew Jacob , Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: <20010731202838.C1582@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: # On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 05:02:11PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: # > # > # > This does raise a question- should we risk the MFC? # # I would say yes here. This time is as good as any, at least we get people # to test it. This probably goes with out saying, but I also vote yes. I'd be more that happy to download an iso to try out an RC. The 1200 at work probably isn't much a help for testing since the original change made it work, but I'll test it anyway. -Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 14:23:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from beppo.feral.com (beppo.feral.com [192.67.166.79]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 577AB37B405 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:23:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Received: from beppo (mjacob@beppo [192.67.166.79]) by beppo.feral.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with ESMTP id f6VLNfI06366; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:23:41 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from mjacob@feral.com) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:23:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Matthew Jacob X-Sender: mjacob@beppo Reply-To: mjacob@feral.com To: Wilko Bulte Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Joseph Scott Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems In-Reply-To: <20010731202838.C1582@freebie.xs4all.nl> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll get to it tonite- I'm offsite today working on Solaris all day... On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 05:02:11PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > This does raise a question- should we risk the MFC? > > I would say yes here. This time is as good as any, at least we get people > to test it. > > Just mu Eur 0.02 > > W/ > > -- > | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org > |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 14:30:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp9.xs4all.nl (smtp9.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.135]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0417D37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:30:15 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp9.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id XAA28788; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:30:01 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6VLU0A03061; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:30:00 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 23:30:00 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: Matthew Jacob Cc: Andrew Gallatin , freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Joseph Scott Subject: Re: 1200 & boot problems Message-ID: <20010731233000.A3026@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010731202838.C1582@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from mjacob@feral.com on Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:23:41PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:23:41PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: Great. I'll test things on a AS8400 & AS4100 (if needed). AS1200 is Josephs puppy I guess. What else do we need testing on? Wilko > I'll get to it tonite- I'm offsite today working on Solaris all day... > > > On Tue, 31 Jul 2001, Wilko Bulte wrote: > > > On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 05:02:11PM -0700, Matthew Jacob wrote: > > > > > > > > > This does raise a question- should we risk the MFC? > > > > I would say yes here. This time is as good as any, at least we get people > > to test it. > > > > Just mu Eur 0.02 s/mu/my > > W/ -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 14:58:36 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A9BFF37B40A for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:58:33 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.217]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id OAA29485; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:57:19 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010731202519.B1582@freebie.xs4all.nl> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 14:57:21 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: Wilko Bulte Subject: Re: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org, jakari@bithose.com, Mike Nichols , Terry Lambert Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-Jul-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: >> it just hasn't been integrated yet. I have no idea what >> people are waiting for... perhaps we need an archbishop to >> bless the code before it can simply be committed, since it > > No, an archbishop to commit it Surely Drew or Matt will commit it to -current. Do no alpha committers have TGA adapters or something? -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 15: 3:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from smtp3.xs4all.nl (smtp3.xs4all.nl [194.109.127.132]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7F74937B403; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:03:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from wkb@freebie.xs4all.nl) Received: from freebie.xs4all.nl (freebie.xs4all.nl [213.84.32.253]) by smtp3.xs4all.nl (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id AAA29442; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:03:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: (from wkb@localhost) by freebie.xs4all.nl (8.11.4/8.11.4) id f6VM3GX03372; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:03:16 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from wkb) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 00:03:16 +0200 From: Wilko Bulte To: John Baldwin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.org, jakari@bithose.com, Mike Nichols , Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010801000316.A3329@freebie.xs4all.nl> References: <20010731202519.B1582@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:57:21PM -0700 X-OS: FreeBSD 4.3-STABLE X-PGP: finger wilko@freebsd.org Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:57:21PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > On 31-Jul-01 Wilko Bulte wrote: > >> it just hasn't been integrated yet. I have no idea what > >> people are waiting for... perhaps we need an archbishop to > >> bless the code before it can simply be committed, since it > > > > No, an archbishop to commit it > > Surely Drew or Matt will commit it to -current. Do no alpha committers have > TGA adapters or something? Hardly, most of them have succesfully avoided TGAs because they knew they did not work ;) Multia owners (builtin TGA) would like it though. I once test-drove the driver in an early stage on my 233Mc Multia and it worked then. Slow like the proverbial molasses, but it worked. -- | / o / / _ Arnhem, The Netherlands email: wilko@FreeBSD.org |/|/ / / /( (_) Bulte To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 15:12: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [206.40.252.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F68C37B406 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:12:03 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f6VM90676511; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:09:00 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:07:38 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: leclercn@videotron.ca Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial console gettytab Message-ID: <20010731150738.A76404@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org References: <000001c118f8$5f5cae30$1638a8c0@phobos> <20010730072339.A57400@dragon.nuxi.com> <3B65C006.EF569FBD@lca.etsmtl.ca> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B65C006.EF569FBD@lca.etsmtl.ca>; from normand.leclerc@lca.etsmtl.ca on Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 04:13:58PM -0400 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 04:13:58PM -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > I know my cable has CTS/RTS hooked right as the SRM is doing fine (and Having CTS/RTS does not mater -- I run all my Alpha's with only RX, TX, and GND. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 15:14:45 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [206.40.252.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6D6F837B403; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:14:40 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f6VMDIj76601; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:13:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:11:57 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: John Baldwin Cc: Wilko Bulte , alpha@FreeBSD.org, jakari@bithose.com, Mike Nichols , Terry Lambert Subject: Re: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010731151157.C76404@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.org References: <20010731202519.B1582@freebie.xs4all.nl> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from jhb@FreeBSD.org on Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:57:21PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:57:21PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: > > Surely Drew or Matt will commit it to -current. Do no alpha committers have > TGA adapters or something? How quickly people forget things in their freebsd-alpha mailbox. I am the lead Alpha committer on this. I have said that more than once here. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 15:18:24 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from dragon.nuxi.com (trang.nuxi.com [206.40.252.115]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0E36937B406 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:18:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien@NUXI.com) Received: (from obrien@localhost) by dragon.nuxi.com (8.11.4/8.11.1) id f6VMCSG76593; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:12:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from obrien) Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:11:07 -0700 From: "David O'Brien" To: Terry Lambert Cc: Mike Nichols , jakari@bithose.com, alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD Message-ID: <20010731151107.B76404@dragon.nuxi.com> Reply-To: obrien@FreeBSD.ORG References: <3B664ECB.EC4E8059@mindspring.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: <3B664ECB.EC4E8059@mindspring.com>; from tlambert2@mindspring.com on Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 11:23:07PM -0700 X-Operating-System: FreeBSD 5.0-CURRENT Organization: The NUXI BSD group X-Pgp-Rsa-Fingerprint: B7 4D 3E E9 11 39 5F A3 90 76 5D 69 58 D9 98 7A X-Pgp-Rsa-Keyid: 1024/34F9F9D5 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 11:23:07PM -0700, Terry Lambert wrote: > Mike Nichols wrote: > > >A TGA driver is on its way. > > > > You're writing a TGA driver? Excellent! > > I think that the TGA driver was written about a month ago; > it just hasn't been integrated yet. I have no idea what > people are waiting for... I am waiting for feedback from the Author over an issue I found while testing it for commit. -- -- David (obrien@FreeBSD.org) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 15:38:22 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.wrs.com (unknown-1-11.windriver.com [147.11.1.11]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5C1CC37B406; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:38:18 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from jhb@FreeBSD.org) Received: from laptop.baldwin.cx (john@[147.11.46.217]) by mail.wrs.com (8.9.3/8.9.1) with ESMTP id PAA22199; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:38:16 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: X-Mailer: XFMail 1.4.0 on FreeBSD X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20010731151157.C76404@dragon.nuxi.com> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 15:38:17 -0700 (PDT) From: John Baldwin To: "David O'Brien" Subject: Re: Internal console doesn't work with SRM/FreeBSD Cc: Terry Lambert Cc: Terry Lambert , Mike Nichols , jakari@bithose.com, alpha@FreeBSD.org, Wilko Bulte Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 31-Jul-01 David O'Brien wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2001 at 02:57:21PM -0700, John Baldwin wrote: >> >> Surely Drew or Matt will commit it to -current. Do no alpha committers have >> TGA adapters or something? > > How quickly people forget things in their freebsd-alpha mailbox. I am > the lead Alpha committer on this. I have said that more than once here. Ok, so long as someone will do it. I don't really care who, I know I don't have time myself and was just throwing out names to see if it would prod someone into taking care of it. -- John Baldwin -- http://www.FreeBSD.org/~jhb/ PGP Key: http://www.baldwin.cx/~john/pgpkey.asc "Power Users Use the Power to Serve!" - http://www.FreeBSD.org/ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Tue Jul 31 18:57: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (relais.videotron.ca [24.201.245.36]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F6AF37B401 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 18:56:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leclercn@videotron.ca) Received: from atom.quanta.ca ([24.202.188.149]) by VL-MS-MR002.sc1.videotron.ca (Netscape Messaging Server 4.15) with ESMTP id GHD9EY00.YN6 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:56:58 -0400 Received: from phobos (phobos.quanta.ca [192.168.56.22]) by atom.quanta.ca (8.12.0.Beta16/8.12.0.Beta7) with ESMTP id f711vJb7001708 (using TLSv1/SSLv3 with cipher RC4-MD5 (128 bits) verified NO) for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:57:19 -0400 (EDT) From: "Normand Leclerc" To: Subject: RE: Serial console gettytab Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:57:01 -0400 Message-ID: <000001c11a2d$41d91200$1638a8c0@phobos> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 In-Reply-To: <20010731150738.A76404@dragon.nuxi.com> Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Then ... what's wrong with my setup? Do you have a 164sx with a serial console from which you can log on? I mean, messages from kernel looks fine, messages from userland is messed. If it can help, I am attaching part of the boot-up screen I get from the serial console. You'll see what I mean... Normand Leclerc leclercn@videotron.ca -----Original Message----- From: David O'Brien [mailto:dev-null@NUXI.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2001 6:08 PM To: leclercn@videotron.ca Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Serial console gettytab On Mon, Jul 30, 2001 at 04:13:58PM -0400, Normand Leclerc wrote: > I know my cable has CTS/RTS hooked right as the SRM is doing fine (and Having CTS/RTS does not mater -- I run all my Alpha's with only RX, TX, and GND. ------------ sio1 at port 0x2f8-0x2ff irq 3 flags 0x20000 on isa0 sio1: type ST16650A sio1: interrupting at ISA irq 3 ppc0: at port 0x3bc-0x3bf irq 7 on isa0 ppc0: Generic chipset (EPP/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode ppbus0: IEEE1284 device found Probing for PnP devices on ppbus0: lpt0: on ppbus0 lpt0: Polled port ppc0: interrupting at ISA irq 7 ppc1: at port 0x278-0x27f irq 5 on isa0 ppc1: SMC-like chipset (ECP/EPP/PS2/NIBBLE) in COMPATIBLE mode lpt1: on ppbus1 lpt1: Polled port ppc1: interrupting at ISA irq 5 Timecounter "alpha" frequency 533170336 Hz Waiting 8 seconds for SCSI devices to settle sa0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 sa0: Removable Sequential Access SCSI-2 device sa0: 5.000MB/s transfers (5.000MHz, offset 8) da2 at isp0 bus 0 target 2 lun 0da2: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da2: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da2: 8683MB (17783240 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 1106C) da0 at isp0 bus 0 target 0 lun 0 da0: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da0: 4340MB (8888924 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 553C) da1 at isp0 bus 0 target 1 lun 0 da1: Fixed Direct Access SCSI-2 device da1: 10.000MB/s transfers (10.000MHz, offset 8), Tagged Queueing Enabled da1: 2047MB (4194058 512 byte sectors: 255H 63S/T 261C) Mounting root from ufs:/dev/da1a cd1 at isp0 bus 0 target 6 lun 0 cd1: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd1: 7.575MB/s transfers (7.575MHz, offset 8) cd1: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present cd0 at ahc0 bus 0 target 4 lun 0 cd0: Removable CD-ROM SCSI-2 device cd0: 20.000MB/s transfers (20.000MHz, offset 15) cd0: Attempt to query device size failed: NOT READY, Medium not present - tray closed (cd2:isp0:0:15:0): got CAM status 0x4a (cd2:isp0:0:15:0): fatal error, failed to attach to device (cd2:isp0:0:15:0): lost device (cd2:isp0:0:15:0): removing device entry ccd0-3: Concatenated disk drivers vinum: loaded vinum: reading configuration from /dev/da2f vinum: updating configuration from /dev/da0g vinum: /dev is m, not rebuildingswapon: adding / device Automatic boot i/dev/da1a: FILESYSTEM CLEANS /dev/da1a: clean, 56324 fre90 blocks, 0.4% /dev/vinum/home:N; SKIPPING CHECome: clean, 2393rags, 298864 blontation) /dev/da1e: FILESYSTEM CLEANS /dev/da1e: cl(268 frags, 1189ragmentation) /STEM CLEAN; SKIPv/da2g: clean, 38 frags, 478733 gmentation) /deTEM CLEAN; SKIPP/ccd0c: clean, 7rags, 99182 bloctation) /dev/daLEAN; SKIPPING C: clean, 681307 s, 83108 blocks,ion) /dev/da0f:N; SKIPPING CHEClean, 267486 fre403 blocks, 0.0% Doing initial ne hostname domain. ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFAD: File exists ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFAD: File exists ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFAD ifconfig: ioctl (SIOCAIFAD ifconfig: ioctl ile exists ifconfig: ioctl ile exists ifconfig: ioctl ile exists xl0: flags=8843eT/UTP mtu 163:1%lo0 prefixlen inet6 ::1 preet 127.0.0.1 net add net defaul68.56.126 Addittions: TCP keepang daemons:. Do setup:add net :ateway ::1 add ateway ::1 net.ding: 0 -> 0 nept_rtadv: 0 -> 0accept_rtadv: 0 add net fe80::: add net ff02::: 0:4ff:fe75:940c%ND default inter IPv4 mapped IPvt=YES. Additional daemo syslogd. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 8:36:33 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BA2D637B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 08:36:26 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thomas.Pornin@ens.fr) Received: from bolet.ens.fr (bolet.ens.fr [129.199.99.10]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f71FaPm71511 ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:36:25 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (pornin@localhost) by bolet.ens.fr (8.11.3/jb-1.1) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:36:25 +0200 From: Thomas Pornin To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits Message-ID: <20010801173624.A13674@bolet.ens.fr> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I recently connected my FreeBSD/Alpha (4.3-RELEASE) to an ADSL link using an Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem. As is, it was not working; after some digging, I found that there is a bug either in the ng_pppoe support, or in the modem. The problem is in the pppoe_finduniq() function. In order to identify sessions, the PPPoE code sends a tag with the first packet it sends to the modem; this tag is in fact a 64-bit pointer to some data structure in kernel space. When a packet of type PADO_CODE or PADS_CODE is received, the tag is compared with known pointers. However, only 32 bits are present in the return tag. So, if the original pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the tag contains only 0x003b3d00, which are the first four bytes of data (in little-endian representation). If I modify the pppoe_finduniq() function to accept matches on these four bytes, the connection is established, and remains fully functionnal afterwards. Some details: The Alpha is little-endian, but the data in the packets is big-endian. If the original pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the rebuilt tag from the response packet is actually 0x003b3d0000000000. I do not know if the 8-bytes tag is sent correctly, or if the modem is buggy, or whatever. Machine configuration: AXPpci33 at 166 MHz, 32 MB ram ethernet PCI adapter RealTek 8029 10baseT (ed0) modem Alcatel Speed Touch Home (ethernet) FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE (with a small patch to enable ed0) Feel free to ask for any detail. --Thomas Pornin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 9:49:34 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from schottky.phys.ksu.edu (schottky.phys.ksu.edu [129.130.5.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8696E37B40A for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 09:49:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chriss@phys.ksu.edu) Received: (qmail 18860 invoked by uid 962); 1 Aug 2001 16:49:26 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2001 16:49:26 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:49:26 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Casey To: alpha@freebsd.org Subject: nfs/linux compat Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I am using compaq fortran for linux on fbsd, and things seem fine... except when fortran programs try dealing with nfs mounted directories. it appears that when output to a file ( ./fort.100) is tried on a ufs mounted disk everything goes as planned, here is what kdump says: running from /tmp: 39574 TBLSC NAMI "/compat/linux/tmp" 39574 TBLSC NAMI "/tmp/fort.100" but running from a nfs mounted directory: 36440 TBLSC NAMI "/compat/linux/fort.100" 36440 TBLSC RET ktrace -1 errno 13 Permission denied 36440 TBLSC CALL ktrace(0x120131aa0,0x200,0x1b6) 36440 TBLSC NAMI "/compat/linux" 36440 TBLSC NAMI "/compat/linux/fort.100" it catches fire trying to write to /fort.100 says the error message. but here is the thing... sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. the first time its tried it usually works as expected with the nfs directory. then it may work a few times before it does the above, or it may not work again. loging out and back in seems to make whatever voodoo the linux compat is looking for return for at least once... but i dont seem to find what changes the way i would like this to work is nfs mounted from a solaris 2.6 box, besides this problem the date is 5 hours in the future for access times on files viewed on the fbsd side of the nfs. mounting things from fbsd behave the same way in reguards to fortran but the dates are right... dates arent a big deal, sure thats something unrelated to the big problem. using freebsd 4.3-R on xp1000 mounting from a solaris 2.6 box with a pretty recent patch cluster. thanks Chris Casey Unix System Administrator KSU Physics Department (785) 532-6810 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 10:49:29 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hirogen.kabelfoon.nl (hirogen.kabelfoon.nl [62.45.45.69]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A486E37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 10:49:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from pblok@inter.NL.net) Received: from ntpc (kf-pij-tg01-426.dial.kabelfoon.nl [62.45.89.172]) by hirogen.kabelfoon.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 353B77C3D; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:49:15 +0200 (CEST) Reply-To: From: "Peter Blok" To: "'Thomas Pornin'" , Cc: Subject: RE: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 19:45:09 +0200 Message-ID: <000001c11ab1$b5b92d70$8a02a8c0@ntpc> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) In-Reply-To: <20010801173624.A13674@bolet.ens.fr> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4522.1200 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What did you patch in the mpd daemon. I found a lot endian issues with it, but due to work pressure I didn't finish it. -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG [mailto:owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Thomas Pornin Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 17:36 To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits Hello, I recently connected my FreeBSD/Alpha (4.3-RELEASE) to an ADSL link using an Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem. As is, it was not working; after some digging, I found that there is a bug either in the ng_pppoe support, or in the modem. The problem is in the pppoe_finduniq() function. In order to identify sessions, the PPPoE code sends a tag with the first packet it sends to the modem; this tag is in fact a 64-bit pointer to some data structure in kernel space. When a packet of type PADO_CODE or PADS_CODE is received, the tag is compared with known pointers. However, only 32 bits are present in the return tag. So, if the original pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the tag contains only 0x003b3d00, which are the first four bytes of data (in little-endian representation). If I modify the pppoe_finduniq() function to accept matches on these four bytes, the connection is established, and remains fully functionnal afterwards. Some details: The Alpha is little-endian, but the data in the packets is big-endian. If the original pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the rebuilt tag from the response packet is actually 0x003b3d0000000000. I do not know if the 8-bytes tag is sent correctly, or if the modem is buggy, or whatever. Machine configuration: AXPpci33 at 166 MHz, 32 MB ram ethernet PCI adapter RealTek 8029 10baseT (ed0) modem Alcatel Speed Touch Home (ethernet) FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE (with a small patch to enable ed0) Feel free to ask for any detail. --Thomas Pornin To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 11: 8: 5 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.elischer.org (c421509-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.7.86.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0457337B403; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:07:54 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA40999; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:01:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:01:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Thomas Pornin Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits In-Reply-To: <20010801173624.A13674@bolet.ens.fr> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org can you send us a patch that works for you? we can make it #ifdef __Alpha__ or something. can you ocnfirm that the outgoing packet has a tag-lenth of '8' and that teh return tag has a length of '4'? (maybe 9 and 5) sounds like a brain-dead router at the other end.. On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Thomas Pornin wrote: > Hello, > > I recently connected my FreeBSD/Alpha (4.3-RELEASE) to an ADSL link > using an Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem. As is, it was not working; > after some digging, I found that there is a bug either in the ng_pppoe > support, or in the modem. > > The problem is in the pppoe_finduniq() function. In order to identify > sessions, the PPPoE code sends a tag with the first packet it sends to > the modem; this tag is in fact a 64-bit pointer to some data structure > in kernel space. When a packet of type PADO_CODE or PADS_CODE is > received, the tag is compared with known pointers. > > However, only 32 bits are present in the return tag. So, if the original > pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the tag contains only 0x003b3d00, which > are the first four bytes of data (in little-endian representation). If > I modify the pppoe_finduniq() function to accept matches on these four > bytes, the connection is established, and remains fully functionnal > afterwards. > > Some details: The Alpha is little-endian, but the data in the packets is > big-endian. If the original pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the rebuilt > tag from the response packet is actually 0x003b3d0000000000. I do not > know if the 8-bytes tag is sent correctly, or if the modem is buggy, or > whatever. > > Machine configuration: > AXPpci33 at 166 MHz, 32 MB ram > ethernet PCI adapter RealTek 8029 10baseT (ed0) > modem Alcatel Speed Touch Home (ethernet) > FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE (with a small patch to enable ed0) > > Feel free to ask for any detail. > > > --Thomas Pornin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 11: 8: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.elischer.org (c421509-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.7.86.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5848F37B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:07:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA41031; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:07:20 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:07:20 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Peter Blok Cc: "'Thomas Pornin'" , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: RE: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits In-Reply-To: <000001c11ab1$b5b92d70$8a02a8c0@ntpc> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think he was using ppp, not mpd. he's doing adsl/pppoe and not pptp. On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Peter Blok wrote: > What did you patch in the mpd daemon. I found a lot endian issues with it, > but due to work pressure I didn't finish it. > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG > [mailto:owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Thomas Pornin > Sent: Wednesday, August 01, 2001 17:36 > To: freebsd-net@freebsd.org > Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org > Subject: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits > > > Hello, > > I recently connected my FreeBSD/Alpha (4.3-RELEASE) to an ADSL link > using an Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem. As is, it was not working; > after some digging, I found that there is a bug either in the ng_pppoe > support, or in the modem. > > The problem is in the pppoe_finduniq() function. In order to identify > sessions, the PPPoE code sends a tag with the first packet it sends to > the modem; this tag is in fact a 64-bit pointer to some data structure > in kernel space. When a packet of type PADO_CODE or PADS_CODE is > received, the tag is compared with known pointers. > > However, only 32 bits are present in the return tag. So, if the original > pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the tag contains only 0x003b3d00, which > are the first four bytes of data (in little-endian representation). If > I modify the pppoe_finduniq() function to accept matches on these four > bytes, the connection is established, and remains fully functionnal > afterwards. > > Some details: The Alpha is little-endian, but the data in the packets is > big-endian. If the original pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the rebuilt > tag from the response packet is actually 0x003b3d0000000000. I do not > know if the 8-bytes tag is sent correctly, or if the modem is buggy, or > whatever. > > Machine configuration: > AXPpci33 at 166 MHz, 32 MB ram > ethernet PCI adapter RealTek 8029 10baseT (ed0) > modem Alcatel Speed Touch Home (ethernet) > FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE (with a small patch to enable ed0) > > Feel free to ask for any detail. > > > --Thomas Pornin > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 11:10:17 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ra.eng.mindspring.net (ra.eng.mindspring.net [207.69.192.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A46237B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:10:14 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sj@ra.eng.mindspring.net) Received: (qmail 5425 invoked by uid 52477); 1 Aug 2001 18:09:37 -0000 To: Thomas Pornin Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits References: <20010801173624.A13674@bolet.ens.fr> From: Sudish Joseph Date: 01 Aug 2001 14:09:36 -0400 In-Reply-To: <20010801173624.A13674@bolet.ens.fr> (Thomas Pornin's message of "Wed, 1 Aug 2001 17:36:25 +0200") Message-ID: Lines: 26 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) XEmacs/21.2 (Hera) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Thomas Pornin writes: > The problem is in the pppoe_finduniq() function. In order to identify > sessions, the PPPoE code sends a tag with the first packet it sends to > the modem; this tag is in fact a 64-bit pointer to some data structure > in kernel space. When a packet of type PADO_CODE or PADS_CODE is > received, the tag is compared with known pointers. > However, only 32 bits are present in the return tag. So, if the original > pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the tag contains only 0x003b3d00, which > are the first four bytes of data (in little-endian representation). If > I modify the pppoe_finduniq() function to accept matches on these four > bytes, the connection is established, and remains fully functionnal > afterwards. Yes, exactly. I ran into the same issue. See PR kern/27767 (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=27767) for the bug report. The PR also contains the (gross, alpha-specific) hack I use right now to work around this issue. It simply masks out the upper 32 bits in the pointer when making the comparison. Obviously not a real solution, however it suffices for now since all of the pointers being compared are in the same 32-bit segment. -- Sudish Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 11:14: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ra.eng.mindspring.net (ra.eng.mindspring.net [207.69.192.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EBFB637B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:13:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sj@ra.eng.mindspring.net) Received: (qmail 5449 invoked by uid 52477); 1 Aug 2001 18:13:25 -0000 To: Julian Elischer Cc: Thomas Pornin , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits References: <20010801173624.A13674@bolet.ens.fr> From: Sudish Joseph Date: 01 Aug 2001 14:13:25 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Julian Elischer's message of "Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:01:12 -0700 (PDT)") Message-ID: Lines: 20 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) XEmacs/21.2 (Hera) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Julian Elischer writes: > can you send us a patch that works for you? > we can make it #ifdef __Alpha__ or something. From PR kern/27767: --- /sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.c Sat Nov 4 08:23:16 2000 +++ /sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.c Wed Apr 4 22:59:52 2001 @@ -441,7 +441,7 @@ if ((hook->private == &privp->debug_hook) || (hook->private == &privp->ethernet_hook)) continue; - if (uniq.pointer == hook->private) + if (uniq.pointer == (void *)(((long) hook->private) << 32)) break; } return (hook); -- Sudish Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 11:21:18 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ra.eng.mindspring.net (ra.eng.mindspring.net [207.69.192.184]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F3C0637B403 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:21:13 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sj@ra.eng.mindspring.net) Received: (qmail 5496 invoked by uid 52477); 1 Aug 2001 18:20:39 -0000 To: Thomas Pornin Cc: freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: Re: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits References: <20010801173624.A13674@bolet.ens.fr> From: Sudish Joseph Date: 01 Aug 2001 14:20:39 -0400 In-Reply-To: (Sudish Joseph's message of "01 Aug 2001 14:09:36 -0400") Message-ID: Lines: 16 User-Agent: Gnus/5.090003 (Oort Gnus v0.03) XEmacs/21.2 (Hera) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sudish Joseph writes: > The PR also contains the (gross, alpha-specific) hack I use right now > to work around this issue. It simply masks out the upper 32 bits in > the pointer when making the comparison. Obviously not a real > solution, however it suffices for now since all of the pointers being > compared are in the same 32-bit segment. BTW, if you put in the workaround from kern/27767 for this, you'll run into the problem detailed in PR alpha/27766, where pppd core dumps on certain dns lookups. The patch in that PR was committed and MFC'ed to 4.3-STABLE, but after 4.3 was released, iirc. You might need to cvsup and rebuild world. -- Sudish Joseph To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 11:25: 7 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EFE8737B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:25:02 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id OAA22023; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:25:00 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f71IOV504112; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:24:31 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15208.18782.987728.504368@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 14:24:30 -0400 (EDT) To: Chris Casey Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs/linux compat In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Chris Casey writes: > > I am using compaq fortran for linux on fbsd, and things seem fine... > except when fortran programs try dealing with nfs mounted directories. > > it appears that when output to a file ( ./fort.100) is tried on a ufs > mounted disk everything goes as planned, here is what kdump says: > > running from /tmp: > > 39574 TBLSC NAMI "/compat/linux/tmp" > 39574 TBLSC NAMI "/tmp/fort.100" > > but running from a nfs mounted directory: > > 36440 TBLSC NAMI "/compat/linux/fort.100" > 36440 TBLSC RET ktrace -1 errno 13 Permission denied > 36440 TBLSC CALL ktrace(0x120131aa0,0x200,0x1b6) > 36440 TBLSC NAMI "/compat/linux" > 36440 TBLSC NAMI "/compat/linux/fort.100" > > it catches fire trying to write to /fort.100 says the error message. > > but here is the thing... sometimes it works and sometimes it doesnt. the > first time its tried it usually works as expected with the nfs directory. > then it may work a few times before it does the above, or it may not work > again. loging out and back in seems to make whatever voodoo the linux > compat is looking for return for at least once... but i dont seem to find > what changes As far as permissions go, it really shouldn't matter if its running through linux compat or not. Can you use linux_kdump, please & repost the above with a bit more context. Eg, the CALL that matches the RET. I have a linux_kdump binary at http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/linux_kdump Also, what are the permissions/ownership on the directory you're writing into? Are you over-writing the output file or creating it, etc. See if chmoding the directory you're writing into g+s helps at all. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 11:47: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from schottky.phys.ksu.edu (schottky.phys.ksu.edu [129.130.5.45]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1A47537B401 for ; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 11:47:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from chriss@phys.ksu.edu) Received: (qmail 19173 invoked by uid 962); 1 Aug 2001 18:47:06 -0000 Received: from localhost (sendmail-bs@127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Aug 2001 18:47:06 -0000 Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 13:47:06 -0500 (CDT) From: Chris Casey To: Andrew Gallatin Cc: alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: nfs/linux compat In-Reply-To: <15208.18782.987728.504368@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Andrew Gallatin wrote: > > As far as permissions go, it really shouldn't matter if its running > through linux compat or not. Can you use linux_kdump, please & repost > the above with a bit more context. Eg, the CALL that matches the RET. > I have a linux_kdump binary at > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/linux_kdump rather than clog up emails with these here they are, one of a success and one of a fail: http://www.phys.ksu.edu/~chriss/alpha/ search for fort.100 > > Also, what are the permissions/ownership on the directory you're > writing into? Are you over-writing the output file or creating it, > etc. See if chmoding the directory you're writing into g+s helps at all. > permissions are all sane, when it works (the first time tried in a new shell) it will either create a new one or overwrite an existing one. i've watched env variables and dont see any changes between when it works and when it doesnt. this same binary works on linux correctly, which points to something on these machines. and has never failed on fbsd when nfs has been taken out of the loop. will happily provide any other info which would be of interest > > Drew > Chris Casey Unix System Administrator KSU Physics Department (785) 532-6810 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 15:43:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (gw.Awfulhak.org [217.204.245.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 77C8337B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 15:43:48 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71Mhjs05940; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:43:46 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f71Mhi809898; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 23:43:44 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200108012243.f71Mhi809898@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Julian Elischer Cc: Thomas Pornin , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Somers , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) In-Reply-To: Message from Julian Elischer of "Wed, 01 Aug 2001 13:01:12 PDT." Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 23:43:44 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I think the attached will fix it properly -- but I haven't got an alpha to test with, so can someone do the honours for me ? Ta. > can you send us a patch that works for you? > we can make it #ifdef __Alpha__ or something. > > can you ocnfirm that the outgoing packet has a tag-lenth of '8' > and that teh return tag has a length of '4'? > (maybe 9 and 5) > > sounds like a brain-dead router at the other end.. > > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Thomas Pornin wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > I recently connected my FreeBSD/Alpha (4.3-RELEASE) to an ADSL link > > using an Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem. As is, it was not working; > > after some digging, I found that there is a bug either in the ng_pppoe > > support, or in the modem. > > > > The problem is in the pppoe_finduniq() function. In order to identify > > sessions, the PPPoE code sends a tag with the first packet it sends to > > the modem; this tag is in fact a 64-bit pointer to some data structure > > in kernel space. When a packet of type PADO_CODE or PADS_CODE is > > received, the tag is compared with known pointers. > > > > However, only 32 bits are present in the return tag. So, if the original > > pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the tag contains only 0x003b3d00, which > > are the first four bytes of data (in little-endian representation). If > > I modify the pppoe_finduniq() function to accept matches on these four > > bytes, the connection is established, and remains fully functionnal > > afterwards. > > > > Some details: The Alpha is little-endian, but the data in the packets is > > big-endian. If the original pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the rebuilt > > tag from the response packet is actually 0x003b3d0000000000. I do not > > know if the 8-bytes tag is sent correctly, or if the modem is buggy, or > > whatever. > > > > Machine configuration: > > AXPpci33 at 166 MHz, 32 MB ram > > ethernet PCI adapter RealTek 8029 10baseT (ed0) > > modem Alcatel Speed Touch Home (ethernet) > > FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE (with a small patch to enable ed0) > > > > Feel free to ask for any detail. > > > > > > --Thomas Pornin -- Brian http://www.freebsd-services.com/ Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! Index: ng_pppoe.c =================================================================== RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.c,v retrieving revision 1.45 diff -u -r1.45 ng_pppoe.c --- ng_pppoe.c 2001/07/25 03:34:07 1.45 +++ ng_pppoe.c 2001/08/01 22:40:15 @@ -868,7 +868,7 @@ struct { struct pppoe_tag hdr; union uniq data; - } uniqtag; + } __attribute ((packed)) uniqtag; /* * kick the state machine into starting up @@ -910,7 +910,7 @@ struct { struct pppoe_tag hdr; union uniq data; - } uniqtag; + } __attribute ((packed)) uniqtag; negp neg = NULL; struct mbuf *m; To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Wed Aug 1 16: 8: 9 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.elischer.org (c421509-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.7.86.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0192837B401; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 16:07:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id SAA42348; Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:11:13 -0700 (PDT) Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2001 18:11:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Brian Somers Cc: Thomas Pornin , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Somers , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) In-Reply-To: <200108012243.f71Mhi809898@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org DUH! (slaps forhead with palm "obvious when shown") can you try this thomas? On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Brian Somers wrote: > Hi, > > I think the attached will fix it properly -- but I haven't got an > alpha to test with, so can someone do the honours for me ? > > Ta. > > > can you send us a patch that works for you? > > we can make it #ifdef __Alpha__ or something. > > > > can you ocnfirm that the outgoing packet has a tag-lenth of '8' > > and that teh return tag has a length of '4'? > > (maybe 9 and 5) > > > > sounds like a brain-dead router at the other end.. > > > > > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Thomas Pornin wrote: > > > > > Hello, > > > > > > I recently connected my FreeBSD/Alpha (4.3-RELEASE) to an ADSL link > > > using an Alcatel Speed Touch Home modem. As is, it was not working; > > > after some digging, I found that there is a bug either in the ng_pppoe > > > support, or in the modem. > > > > > > The problem is in the pppoe_finduniq() function. In order to identify > > > sessions, the PPPoE code sends a tag with the first packet it sends to > > > the modem; this tag is in fact a 64-bit pointer to some data structure > > > in kernel space. When a packet of type PADO_CODE or PADS_CODE is > > > received, the tag is compared with known pointers. > > > > > > However, only 32 bits are present in the return tag. So, if the original > > > pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the tag contains only 0x003b3d00, which > > > are the first four bytes of data (in little-endian representation). If > > > I modify the pppoe_finduniq() function to accept matches on these four > > > bytes, the connection is established, and remains fully functionnal > > > afterwards. > > > > > > Some details: The Alpha is little-endian, but the data in the packets is > > > big-endian. If the original pointer is 0xfffffc00003b3d00, the rebuilt > > > tag from the response packet is actually 0x003b3d0000000000. I do not > > > know if the 8-bytes tag is sent correctly, or if the modem is buggy, or > > > whatever. > > > > > > Machine configuration: > > > AXPpci33 at 166 MHz, 32 MB ram > > > ethernet PCI adapter RealTek 8029 10baseT (ed0) > > > modem Alcatel Speed Touch Home (ethernet) > > > FreeBSD 4.3-RELEASE (with a small patch to enable ed0) > > > > > > Feel free to ask for any detail. > > > > > > > > > --Thomas Pornin > > -- > Brian > http://www.freebsd-services.com/ > Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! > > Index: ng_pppoe.c > =================================================================== > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.c,v > retrieving revision 1.45 > diff -u -r1.45 ng_pppoe.c > --- ng_pppoe.c 2001/07/25 03:34:07 1.45 > +++ ng_pppoe.c 2001/08/01 22:40:15 > @@ -868,7 +868,7 @@ > struct { > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > union uniq data; > - } uniqtag; > + } __attribute ((packed)) uniqtag; > > /* > * kick the state machine into starting up > @@ -910,7 +910,7 @@ > struct { > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > union uniq data; > - } uniqtag; > + } __attribute ((packed)) uniqtag; > negp neg = NULL; > struct mbuf *m; > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 0:24: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 002E337B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 00:24:05 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:23:51 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:23:22 +0200 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Cc: Subject: Re: Installing FreeBSD on an AlphaPC 164LX - Alpha newbieneeds help Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew, > At any rate, I've left a package at > http://www.cs.duke.edu/~gallatin/XFree86-4.1.0_4.tgz=20 > (57MB, md5 cksum =3D ad0cb8ea2caa8364ae454c2122e12846) > Be warned this was compiled for ev56 and greater, so you wouldn't be > able to use it on anything less. Thanks, it works like a charm, finally :-))) - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 0:59:10 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mail.baerum.kommune.no (mail.baerum.kommune.no [195.134.40.62]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 144E637B401 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 00:59:08 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Idar.Tollefsen@baerum.kommune.no) Received: from SA-D01-Message_Server by mail.baerum.kommune.no with Novell_GroupWise; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:58:59 +0200 Message-Id: X-Mailer: Novell GroupWise 5.5.2 Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 09:58:36 +0200 From: "Idar Tollefsen" To: Subject: Ports using -mcpu=ev4, how to change it? Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, When I do a make in the ports tree, it compiles the programs with -mcpu=3Dev4, while I have an EV56. How do I change this? - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 2:17:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from nef.ens.fr (nef.ens.fr [129.199.96.32]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8A4A437B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 02:17:07 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Thomas.Pornin@ens.fr) Received: from bolet.ens.fr (bolet.ens.fr [129.199.99.10]) by nef.ens.fr (8.10.1/1.01.28121999) with ESMTP id f729H6m38776 ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:17:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from (pornin@localhost) by bolet.ens.fr (8.11.3/jb-1.1) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:17:03 +0200 From: Thomas Pornin To: Julian Elischer Cc: Brian Somers , freebsd-net@freebsd.org, freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@freebsd.org Subject: Re: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) Message-ID: <20010802111703.A38800@bolet.ens.fr> References: <200108012243.f71Mhi809898@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i In-Reply-To: ; from julian@elischer.org on Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 06:11:11PM -0700 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, Aug 01, 2001 at 06:11:11PM -0700, Julian Elischer wrote: > can you try this thomas? I tried. It works like a charm. Thanks ! --Thomas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 7:14:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from postino.fi.infn.it (postino.fi.infn.it [192.84.145.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8962E37B40F for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:14:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it) Received: from nikita.fi.infn.it (nikita.fi.infn.it [192.84.146.189]) by postino.fi.infn.it (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f72EEcm31876 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:14:38 +0200 (CEST) From: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Received: by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6C02D18CE8; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:14:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by nikita.fi.infn.it (Postfix) with ESMTP id F00DC15902 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:14:36 +0200 (CEST) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:14:36 +0200 (CEST) X-X-Sender: To: Subject: Miata + sound Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, anyone could configure FreeBSD to support sound with Miata ?? thanks Rick To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 7:43:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6EEC137B418 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:42:57 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12646; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:42:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f72EgPX05836; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:42:25 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15209.26321.488587.364617@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:42:25 -0400 (EDT) To: "Idar Tollefsen" Cc: Subject: Re: Ports using -mcpu=ev4, how to change it? In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Idar Tollefsen writes: > Hello, > > When I do a make in the ports tree, it compiles > the programs with -mcpu=ev4, while I have an > EV56. How do I change this? Put this in /etc/make.conf: CPUTYPE=ev56 You may also want this, since you're using XF86-4: XFREE86_VERSION=4 And, lasty, please grab the latest version of the ports tree via cvsup or cvs. This should make port building less painful. Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 7:44:31 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from duke.cs.duke.edu (duke.cs.duke.edu [152.3.140.1]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33F5537B405 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 07:44:28 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) Received: from grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (grasshopper.cs.duke.edu [152.3.145.30]) by duke.cs.duke.edu (8.9.3/8.9.3) with ESMTP id KAA12692; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:44:26 -0400 (EDT) Received: (from gallatin@localhost) by grasshopper.cs.duke.edu (8.11.3/8.9.1) id f72Ehva05840; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:43:57 -0400 (EDT) (envelope-from gallatin@cs.duke.edu) From: Andrew Gallatin MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <15209.26413.758237.661390@grasshopper.cs.duke.edu> Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:43:57 -0400 (EDT) To: Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it Cc: Subject: Re: Miata + sound In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: VM 6.75 under 21.1 (patch 12) "Channel Islands" XEmacs Lucid Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Riccardo.Veraldi@fi.infn.it writes: > > Hello, > anyone could configure FreeBSD to support sound with Miata ?? > thanks > Yes: device pcm0 device sbc0 You need to make sure the sound is enabled from the SRM console as well. Cheers, Drew To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 8:16: 8 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from Kasan.su (unknown [209.5.222.98]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C182637B407 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 08:15:55 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from zdanie@dr.com) Message-ID: <176422001842145720345@dr.com> X-EM-Version: 5, 0, 0, 21 X-EM-Registration: #01B0530810E603002D00 X-Priority: 3 Reply-To: zdanie@europe.com X-MSMail-Priority: Normal From: "=?windows-1251?Q?=CF=EE=F0=F2=EE=E2=E0=FF,_19?=" To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Subject: =?windows-1251?Q?=CF=F0=EE=E4=E0=E5=F2=F1=FF_=E0=E4=EC=E8=ED=E8=F1=F2=F0=E0=F2=E8=E2=ED=EE=E5_=E7=E4=E0=ED=E8=E5_=E2_=CA=E0=E7=E0=ED=E8?= Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 18:57:20 +0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset="windows-1251" Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Предлагаем приобрести в собственность административное здание в Казани (Татарстан, Россия): - Общая площадь 910 кв. м; - 2 этажа; - Большое количество помещений от 7 до 200 кв.м; - Собственная территория - земельный участок 0,101 Га. 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 9: 2:46 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E071537B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 09:02:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id CAA28278; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 02:02:10 +1000 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 01:59:36 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Julian Elischer Cc: Brian Somers , Thomas Pornin , , , Brian Somers , Subject: Re: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010803015717.B1110-100000@besplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: > DUH! > (slaps forhead with palm "obvious when shown") > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Brian Somers wrote: > > Index: ng_pppoe.c > > =================================================================== > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.c,v > > retrieving revision 1.45 > > diff -u -r1.45 ng_pppoe.c > > --- ng_pppoe.c 2001/07/25 03:34:07 1.45 > > +++ ng_pppoe.c 2001/08/01 22:40:15 > > @@ -868,7 +868,7 @@ > > struct { > > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > > union uniq data; > > - } uniqtag; > > + } __attribute ((packed)) uniqtag; > > > > /* > > * kick the state machine into starting up > > @@ -910,7 +910,7 @@ > > struct { > > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > > union uniq data; > > - } uniqtag; > > + } __attribute ((packed)) uniqtag; > > negp neg = NULL; > > struct mbuf *m; Obviously a syntax error. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 10:46:50 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from hotmail.com (f248.law11.hotmail.com [64.4.17.248]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3F8CE37B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:46:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from sroberts84@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 10:46:45 -0700 Received: from 213.122.201.198 by lw11fd.law11.hotmail.msn.com with HTTP; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 17:46:45 GMT X-Originating-IP: [213.122.201.198] From: "Stacey Roberts" To: bde@zeta.org.au, julian@elischer.org Cc: brian@Awfulhak.org, Thomas.Pornin@ens.fr, freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@freebsd-services.com, FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: FreeBSD V4.3 running on ABIT VP6 Dual Proc Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 17:46:45 +0000 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2001 17:46:45.0981 (UTC) FILETIME=[192420D0:01C11B7B] Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi Guys, I've just ordered FreeBSD V4.3, hoping to install it on a VP6 Dual proc system running two P111 933's. I've tried searching for known issues with this particular motherboard via all the search facilities at the FreeBSD sites, but cannot find any actual documentation on whether or not this motherboard is actually compatible with FreeBSD V4.3. Can any of you assist / advise? Cheers Stacey _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 11:28:27 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.elischer.org (c421509-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.7.86.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A80337B406; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 11:28:20 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id NAA46920; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:38:46 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Bruce Evans Cc: Brian Somers , Thomas Pornin , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Somers , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) In-Reply-To: <20010803015717.B1110-100000@besplex.bde.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org care to explain? On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Bruce Evans wrote: > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: > > > DUH! > > (slaps forhead with palm "obvious when shown") > > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Brian Somers wrote: > > > Index: ng_pppoe.c > > > =================================================================== > > > RCS file: /home/ncvs/src/sys/netgraph/ng_pppoe.c,v > > > retrieving revision 1.45 > > > diff -u -r1.45 ng_pppoe.c > > > --- ng_pppoe.c 2001/07/25 03:34:07 1.45 > > > +++ ng_pppoe.c 2001/08/01 22:40:15 > > > @@ -868,7 +868,7 @@ > > > struct { > > > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > > > union uniq data; > > > - } uniqtag; > > > + } __attribute ((packed)) uniqtag; > > > > > > /* > > > * kick the state machine into starting up > > > @@ -910,7 +910,7 @@ > > > struct { > > > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > > > union uniq data; > > > - } uniqtag; > > > + } __attribute ((packed)) uniqtag; > > > negp neg = NULL; > > > struct mbuf *m; > > Obviously a syntax error. > > Bruce > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-net" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 12:10:58 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from ns2.myway.com.br (ns2.myway.com.br [200.186.239.2]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5EF0037B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 12:10:53 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from leal@myway.com.br) Received: from myway.com.br (unverified [200.186.239.10]) by ns2.myway.com.br (EMWAC SMTPRS 0.83) with SMTP id ; Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:09:45 -0300 Message-ID: <3B69A676.5FE8CAC0@myway.com.br> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 16:13:58 -0300 From: Marcelo Leal Organization: webcom X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.76 [en] (X11; U; FreeBSD 4.2-RELEASE i386) X-Accept-Language: pt-BR, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Julian Elischer Cc: Bruce Evans , Brian Somers , Thomas Pornin , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Somers , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antirelay: Good relay from local net2 200.186.239.0/24 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Why my arp table is wrong???? the windows machines and my freebsd box are with crazy arp table!!! my freebsd box sad: arp 10.0.0.1 moved from xxxxx to xxxxx and don't ping anything... my windows machines too. but windows don't tell me anything!!!! i have one server dhcp (FreeBSD) and this machine run NAT for my dhcp clients. another problem is that two or more machines ping one internet host, the reply go to just one. thanks!!!! help... sorry by the english. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 13:52: 4 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0D4AC37B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 13:51:56 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id GAA09412; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:51:28 +1000 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 06:48:54 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Julian Elischer Cc: Brian Somers , Thomas Pornin , , , Brian Somers , Subject: Re: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010803054935.M2890-100000@besplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Thu, 2 Aug 2001, Julian Elischer wrote: > care to explain? Please trim quotes and reply after the quoted section[s]. > On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Bruce Evans wrote: > > > On Wed, 1 Aug 2001, Brian Somers wrote: > > > > @@ -910,7 +910,7 @@ > > > > struct { > > > > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > > > > union uniq data; > > > > - } uniqtag; > > > > + } __attribute ((packed)) uniqtag; > > > > negp neg = NULL; > > > > struct mbuf *m; > > > > Obviously a syntax error. `__attribute ((packed))' is a syntax error in Standard C. Dependencies on compiler features are supposed to be centralized in places like . Many invocations of __attribute__(()) are placed there. This is not possible for the `packed' attribute because this attribute has non-cosmetic effects. Structs must be carefully laid out to give some chance of them not having any internal padding for any compiler. This sometimes involves using struct members with an unnatural type. has many examples. Here I don't see how packing the struct helps on alphas. Doesn't it cause traps by misaligning uniqtag.data.pointer? I think you need something like: struct { struct pppoe_tag hdr; char data[sizeof(void *)]; } uniqtag; void *pointer; ... pointer = sp; memcpy(uniqtag.data, &pointer, sizeof(uniqtag.data)); Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 16:38:20 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from Awfulhak.org (gw.Awfulhak.org [217.204.245.18]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8592D37B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 16:38:10 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from brian@Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (root@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org [172.16.0.12]) by Awfulhak.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72Nc7s17630; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:38:07 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@lan.Awfulhak.org) Received: from hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (brian@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by hak.lan.Awfulhak.org (8.11.4/8.11.4) with ESMTP id f72Nc6u09427; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 00:38:06 +0100 (BST) (envelope-from brian@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org) Message-Id: <200108022338.f72Nc6u09427@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> X-Mailer: exmh version 2.5 07/13/2001 with nmh-1.0.4 To: Bruce Evans Cc: Julian Elischer , Brian Somers , Thomas Pornin , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Somers , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, brian@freebsd-services.com Subject: Re: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) In-Reply-To: Message from Bruce Evans of "Fri, 03 Aug 2001 06:48:54 +1000." <20010803054935.M2890-100000@besplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-ID: <9420.996795486.1@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 00:38:06 +0100 From: Brian Somers Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > `__attribute ((packed))' is a syntax error in Standard C. > > Dependencies on compiler features are supposed to be centralized in > places like . Many invocations of __attribute__(()) are > placed there. This is not possible for the `packed' attribute because > this attribute has non-cosmetic effects. Structs must be carefully > laid out to give some chance of them not having any internal padding > for any compiler. This sometimes involves using struct members with > an unnatural type. has many examples. > > Here I don't see how packing the struct helps on alphas. Doesn't it > cause traps by misaligning uniqtag.data.pointer? I think you need > something like: It doesn't cause a trap as the compiler is (now) smart enough to handle it properly. Note where we have the alignment problem here: beast:~ $ cat x.c #include struct s { short x, y; }; union u { char c[sizeof(void*)]; void *v; }; struct x { struct s s; union u u; } __attribute ((packed)); int main() { struct x x; char c[] = "hello"; int i; x.u.v = c; /* This is ok despite it not being aligned */ i = (char *)&x.u.v - (char *)&x; printf("Got \"%s\", offset %d\n", (char *)x.u.v, i); *(void **)((char *)&x + 4) = c; /* This is not ok */ printf("Without knowledge of packed... \"%s\"\n", (char *)x.u.v); return 0; } beast:~ $ cc -o x x.c beast:~ $ ./x Got "hello", offset 4 pid 30842 (x): unaligned access: va=0x11ffba64 pc=0x120000894 ra=0x120000884 op=stq Without knowledge of packed... "hello" > struct { > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > char data[sizeof(void *)]; > } uniqtag; > void *pointer; > ... > pointer = sp; > memcpy(uniqtag.data, &pointer, sizeof(uniqtag.data)); That's probably better. I went with the __attribute((packed)) stuff because it was already done that way in the rest of the code. In this specific case however, it may be best to just send the variable plus the alignment padding as the tag: struct { struct pppoe_tag hdr; union uniq data; } uniqtag; ...... uniqtag.hdr.tag_type = PTT_HOST_UNIQ; uniqtag.hdr.tag_len = htons((u_int16_t)(sizeof(uniqtag) - sizeof(uniqtag.hdr)); uniqtag.data.pointer = sp; But I'm not convinced it gains anything given the other uses of __attribute((packed)) in this code. > Bruce -- Brian http://www.freebsd-services.com/ Don't _EVER_ lose your sense of humour ! To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Thu Aug 2 17: 6:44 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from InterJet.elischer.org (c421509-a.pinol1.sfba.home.com [24.7.86.9]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21D5337B401; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 17:06:39 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from julian@elischer.org) Received: from localhost (localhost.elischer.org [127.0.0.1]) by InterJet.elischer.org (8.9.1a/8.9.1) with ESMTP id TAA48308; Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:11:59 -0700 (PDT) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2001 19:11:58 -0700 (PDT) From: Julian Elischer To: Brian Somers Cc: Bruce Evans , Thomas Pornin , freebsd-net@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Somers , FreeBSD-gnats-submit@FreeBSD.ORG, Brian Somers Subject: Re: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) In-Reply-To: <200108022338.f72Nc6u09427@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Brian Somers wrote: > > That's probably better. I went with the __attribute((packed)) stuff > because it was already done that way in the rest of the code. > > In this specific case however, it may be best to just send the variable > plus the alignment padding as the tag: > > struct { > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > union uniq data; > } uniqtag; > > ...... > uniqtag.hdr.tag_type = PTT_HOST_UNIQ; > uniqtag.hdr.tag_len = htons((u_int16_t)(sizeof(uniqtag) - sizeof(uniqtag.hdr)); > uniqtag.data.pointer = sp; urk I prefer bruce's method :-) but if the rest use packed.. we can probably use it here to be consistant.. 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Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Andrew, > Put this in /etc/make.conf: > CPUTYPE=3Dev56 > You may also want this, since you're using XF86-4: > XFREE86_VERSION=3D4 Thank you, I'll do that. > And, lasty, please grab the latest version of the ports > tree via cvsup or cvs. This should make port building > less painful. I've installed FreeBSD now as a test, to get used to it and to learn how to use it. I will rewamp the whole system and make a clean installation when I've gotten a grasp of things. cvssup of the ports tree might not be feasible right now tough, as I'm currently on an ISDN line. In a few weeks, I'll hopefully have ADSL up and running, and then I'll give it a try. Anyway: Thank you for your help. - IT To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 3 8: 3:56 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from master.telia.net (master.telia.net [194.237.170.70]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3FC337B406 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 08:03:52 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from khaled@w-arts.com) Received: from localhost (elite@localhost) by master.telia.net (8.11.2/8.11.0) with ESMTP id f73F3bJ77084; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:03:37 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from khaled@w-arts.com) X-Authentication-Warning: master.telia.net: elite owned process doing -bs Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:03:37 +0200 (CEST) From: Khaled Daham X-Sender: elite@master.telia.net To: Idar Tollefsen Cc: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org, gallatin@cs.duke.edu Subject: Re: Ports using -mcpu=ev4, how to change it? In-Reply-To: Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > a grasp of things. cvssup of the ports tree might not be > feasible right now tough, as I'm currently on an ISDN line. > In a few weeks, I'll hopefully have ADSL up and > running, and then I'll give it a try. cvsup'ing does not take too long though. Of course it depends on how much have changed from what you already have, but still a couple of minutes should be enough. /Khaled Daham, w.arts Mail: khaled@w-arts.com, khaled@telia.net Cell: +46-70-6785492 FreeBSD: The Power to Serve! http://www.FreeBSD.org/ BSD is for people who love Unix Linux is for people who hate Microsoft Microsoft is for people who don't have a clue. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 3 11: 0:11 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from albert.ies.net (albert.ies.net [208.193.197.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75B8D37B40F for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 10:59:44 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from dmontal@polibrid.com) Received: from DM ([208.241.30.123]) by albert.ies.net (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-50103U5000L500S0V35) with SMTP id net for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:55:56 -0700 Reply-To: From: dmontal@polibrid.com (Diego Montalvo) To: Subject: MySQL on Alpha FreeBSD 4.2 Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 12:50:06 -0500 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) Importance: Normal In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2919.6600 Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I am wondering if I need a special port of MySQL to run on FreeBSD 4.2 Alpha? Can I use the same MySQL_xxx.tar.gz file that I use in FreeBSD i386 , on a box with FreeBSD 4.2 Alpha? Thanks, Diego Montalvo To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 3 11:15:21 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from blues.jpj.net (unknown [204.97.17.6]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5644A37B414 for ; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 11:14:46 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from trevor@jpj.net) Received: from localhost (trevor@localhost) by blues.jpj.net (8.11.1/8.11.1) with ESMTP id f73IEX525657; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:14:33 -0400 (EDT) Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 14:14:33 -0400 (EDT) From: Trevor Johnson To: Diego Montalvo Cc: Subject: Re: MySQL on Alpha FreeBSD 4.2 In-Reply-To: Message-ID: <20010803140639.Q19141-100000@blues.jpj.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello, Hi, Diego. > I am wondering if I need a special port of MySQL to run on FreeBSD 4.2 > Alpha? Can I use the same MySQL_xxx.tar.gz file that I use in FreeBSD i386 > , on a box with FreeBSD 4.2 Alpha? Platform-specific ports should have NOT_FOR_ARCHS or ONLY_FOR_ARCHS defined. I don't see those in any of the MySQL ports. -- Trevor Johnson To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-alpha Fri Aug 3 19:26: 6 2001 Delivered-To: freebsd-alpha@freebsd.org Received: from mailman.zeta.org.au (mailman.zeta.org.au [203.26.10.16]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0E5937B403; Fri, 3 Aug 2001 19:25:59 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from bde@zeta.org.au) Received: from bde.zeta.org.au (bde.zeta.org.au [203.2.228.102]) by mailman.zeta.org.au (8.9.3/8.8.7) with ESMTP id MAA18601; Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:25:30 +1000 Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:23:04 +1000 (EST) From: Bruce Evans X-X-Sender: To: Brian Somers Cc: Julian Elischer , Thomas Pornin , , , Brian Somers , , Brian Somers Subject: Re: kern/27767: (was: PPPoE + Alpha + 32/64 bits) In-Reply-To: <200108022338.f72Nc6u09427@hak.lan.Awfulhak.org> Message-ID: <20010804121134.G16179-100000@besplex.bde.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-alpha@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Fri, 3 Aug 2001, Brian Somers wrote: > > [bde wrote] > > Here I don't see how packing the struct helps on alphas. Doesn't it > > cause traps by misaligning uniqtag.data.pointer? I think you need > > something like: > > It doesn't cause a trap as the compiler is (now) smart enough to > handle it properly. Note where we have the alignment problem here: I guess it knows how to handle this in packed structs and not in many other cases. > > struct { > > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > > char data[sizeof(void *)]; > > } uniqtag; > > void *pointer; > > ... > > pointer = sp; > > memcpy(uniqtag.data, &pointer, sizeof(uniqtag.data)); > > That's probably better. I went with the __attribute((packed)) stuff > because it was already done that way in the rest of the code. I think the packed attributes in ng_pppoe.h are no-ops on most machines. > In this specific case however, it may be best to just send the variable > plus the alignment padding as the tag: > > struct { > struct pppoe_tag hdr; > union uniq data; > } uniqtag; > > ...... > uniqtag.hdr.tag_type = PTT_HOST_UNIQ; > uniqtag.hdr.tag_len = htons((u_int16_t)(sizeof(uniqtag) - sizeof(uniqtag.hdr)); > uniqtag.data.pointer = sp; You might also have to zero everything to ensure that there is no stack garbage in the message. Bruce To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-alpha" in the body of the message