From owner-freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Oct 21 09:53:36 2012 Return-Path: Delivered-To: current@FreeBSD.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [69.147.83.52]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9350E965 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:53:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from uqs@FreeBSD.org) Received: from acme.spoerlein.net (acme.spoerlein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:23c2::1]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 27ABD8FC12 for ; Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:53:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (acme.spoerlein.net [IPv6:2a01:4f8:131:23c2::1]) by acme.spoerlein.net (8.14.5/8.14.5) with ESMTP id q9L9rXOq075024 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:53:34 +0200 (CEST) (envelope-from uqs@FreeBSD.org) Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 11:53:32 +0200 From: Ulrich =?utf-8?B?U3DDtnJsZWlu?= To: Hans Ottevanger Subject: Re: RFC: removal of share/doc/{papers,psd,smm,usd} in 2 months Message-ID: <20121021095332.GM69724@acme.spoerlein.net> Mail-Followup-To: Hans Ottevanger , current@freebsd.org References: <20121019143617.GF69724@acme.spoerlein.net> <5083B50D.2080009@beastielabs.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: <5083B50D.2080009@beastielabs.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Cc: current@FreeBSD.org X-BeenThere: freebsd-current@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussions about the use of FreeBSD-current List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2012 09:53:36 -0000 On Sun, 2012-10-21 at 10:40:45 +0200, Hans Ottevanger wrote: > On 10/19/12 16:36, Ulrich Spörlein wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > those roff sources have been very naughty and will be removed from the > > tree by the end of the year. Most of those papers are severely out of > > date and provide no more use to the system. They can probably also be > > found online using a search engine of your choice. > > > > Could you be more specific as to why these sources have been "very naughty"? > > > Should people feel strongly about them, we might be able to move them > > over to the doc repository. > > > > I strongly object this removal. As already pointed out by others, there > are papers documenting vi/ex and RPC/XDR. These papers are practically > the only docs available on these subjects, apart from the very terse man > pages. There are also tutorials on e.g. Yacc and Lex, that probably are > not that up-to-date but quite short and (at least for now) readily > available. And there is also the IPC Tutorial. > > This may not all be documents that are immediately needed for > operational purposes, but they do offer much needed background > information, also of historical character, i.e. how and why things > became as they are today. The handbook provides even more useful documentation and information, yet we don't have xsltproc in the base system, force everyone to compile it twice and then typeset all the documentation over and over again. They will therefore be moved to the doc repository were they probably should have been all along. Cheers, Uli