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Date:      Fri, 07 Jan 2000 10:33:30 -0800
From:      "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com>
To:        Darren Reed <darrenr@reed.wattle.id.au>
Cc:        phk@critter.freebsd.dk (Poul-Henning Kamp), steve@virtual-voodoo.com, dillon@apollo.backplane.com, scanner@jurai.net, shin@nd.net.fujitsu.co.jp, louie@TransSys.COM, committers@FreeBSD.ORG, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: 4.0 code freeze scheduled for Jan 15th 
Message-ID:  <11740.947270010@zippy.cdrom.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 07 Jan 0100 23:52:34 %2B1100." <200001071252.XAA05648@avalon.reed.wattle.id.au> 

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I think you'd do far better to stop bitching and simply start helping.

The people I've heard yell the very loudest in this discussion are
also the people who:

a) Have not helped Yoshinobu Inoue to any great extent during his
   calls for patch testing.

b) Have not volunteered to help with the integration, merely retreating
   into calls that release should happen "when it's finished" and
   conveniently side-stepping the fact that somebody has to finish it
   first.

In other words, this is a clear-cut case of back-seat driving by
people who aren't even willing to climb into the front seat and drive
foward the issue they're complaining about, they just want to yell
from the relative safety of the back seat.  Cut it out!  If you,
Darren, want to find something useful to do then go maintain your
ipfilter code and stop relying on others to do it for you in FreeBSD.
I've already made this point in private email and I won't elaborate
further on it here.

- Jordan


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