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Date:      Thu, 15 Jan 2009 07:21:18 +1100
From:      Peter Jeremy <peterjeremy@optushome.com.au>
To:        Kirill Ponomarew <krion@voodoo.bawue.com>
Cc:        "Philip M. Gollucci" <pgollucci@p6m7g8.com>, cvs-ports@freebsd.org, Sergey Skvortsov <skv@protey.ru>, cvs-all@freebsd.org, ports-committers@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: [ports] cvs commit: ports UPDATING ports/Mk bsd.perl.mk ports/lang/perl5.8 Makefile Makefile.man distinfo pkg-plist ports/lang/perl5.8/files patch-freebsd.sh patch-makedepend patch-perl.c patch-sv.c patch-utf-regcomp
Message-ID:  <20090114202117.GB16116@server.vk2pj.dyndns.org>
In-Reply-To: <20090114163621.GC4867@voodoo.bawue.com>
References:  <200901132138.n0DLcosP013731@repoman.freebsd.org> <20090113213900.DC9031065703@hub.freebsd.org> <20090114160829.GA4867@voodoo.bawue.com> <496E14C7.70306@protey.ru> <20090114162715.GB4867@voodoo.bawue.com> <496E1630.8040008@p6m7g8.com> <20090114163621.GC4867@voodoo.bawue.com>

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On 2009-Jan-14 17:36:21 +0100, Kirill Ponomarew <krion@voodoo.bawue.com> wr=
ote:
>On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 11:43:28AM -0500, Philip M. Gollucci wrote:
>> > Could you elaborate on this topic and explain the reason for separate =
port?
>> Not everyone is going to update immediately. Also loads of the p5- ports=
 will=20
>> have issues or be incompatible.
>
>You could run pointyhat for the issues with incompatibility.

Not necessarily.  Incompatibilities are more likely to show up at
runtime than compile time.  Unless the p5- port implements self
tests and/or correct version tests, it's likely that incompatibilites
will be missed.  There's also the issue of user's perl code - which
we can't test.  (Given the incomatibilities between perl 5.6 and 5.8,
this may even be justification for leaving a perl5.6 port in the tree
until bitrot sets in, rather than yanking it once perl 5.10 becomes
reasonably stable).

>> ITs going to be dual lifed like perl 5.6

I think this is an excellent idea.  Note that we have multiple jdk's
and gcc's in ports.  There's no reason why we can't also have
several perl's.

>> lang/perl5
>> lang/perl5.8
>> lang/perl5.10
>
>Jeez...

I'm less keen on having a perl5 port that is (effectively) obsolete.
Any lang/perl or lang/perl5 port should be the latest stable release.
(Java fell into that hole and a significant number of people were
caught trying to install java 1.1 when they actually wanted java 1.4
or java 1.5).

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Peter Jeremy
Please excuse any delays as the result of my ISP's inability to implement
an MTA that is either RFC2821-compliant or matches their claimed behaviour.

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