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Date:      Fri, 12 Feb 2010 11:16:37 -0800
From:      "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
To:        Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: ntpd struggling to keep up - how to fix? 
Message-ID:  <20100212191637.653011CC09@ptavv.es.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:11:17 PST." <20100212131117.GA51905@icarus.home.lan> 

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> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2010 05:11:17 -0800
> From: Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com>
> Sender: owner-freebsd-stable@freebsd.org
> 
> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 01:29:47PM +0100, Torfinn Ingolfsen wrote:
> > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 11:25:15 -0800
> > Jeremy Chadwick <freebsd@jdc.parodius.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > Your machine has a rapidly drifting clock, usually an indicator of a
> > > hardware problem (crystal gone bad is a common one -- seen this at work
> > > quite a few times), or possibly a bad time counter source chosen by the
> > > kernel.  Can you please provide the output of:
> > > 
> > > sysctl kern.timecounter
> > 
> > Here it is:
> > root@kg-f2# sysctl kern.timecounter
> > kern.timecounter.tick: 1
> > kern.timecounter.choice: TSC(-100) HPET(900) ACPI-safe(850) i8254(0) dummy(-1000000)
> > kern.timecounter.hardware: HPET
> > kern.timecounter.stepwarnings: 0
> > kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.mask: 65535
> > kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.counter: 52444
> > kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.frequency: 1193182
> > kern.timecounter.tc.i8254.quality: 0
> > kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-safe.mask: 4294967295
> > kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-safe.counter: 3252982815
> > kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-safe.frequency: 3579545
> > kern.timecounter.tc.ACPI-safe.quality: 850
> > kern.timecounter.tc.HPET.mask: 4294967295
> > kern.timecounter.tc.HPET.counter: 3443625641
> > kern.timecounter.tc.HPET.frequency: 14318180
> > kern.timecounter.tc.HPET.quality: 900
> > kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.mask: 4294967295
> > kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.counter: 1276479615
> > kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.frequency: 2819782573
> > kern.timecounter.tc.TSC.quality: -100
> > kern.timecounter.smp_tsc: 0
> > kern.timecounter.invariant_tsc: 1
> 
> Please try doing this:
> 
> - stop ntpd
> - rm /var/db/ntpd.drift
> - sysctl kern.timecounter.hardware=ACPI-safe
> - start ntpd
> 
> Then see if your clock drifts.  If it stops, great -- you can put that
> sysctl assignment line in /etc/sysctl.conf and consider it a done deal.
> I highly recommend putting some comments around it though so in the
> future you don't go "What's this? Silly!" and delete it.  ;-)
> 
> I'll also point out that it's common on FreeBSD[1] to see messages
> like the following (or at least it was circa 2006 -- I believe ntpd
> has been updated since then, but I've no indication said quirk was
> fixed/addressed):
> 
> Dec 19 00:22:26 icarus ntpd[624]: kernel time sync enabled 2001
> Dec 19 01:47:48 icarus ntpd[624]: kernel time sync enabled 6001
> Dec 19 02:04:52 icarus ntpd[624]: kernel time sync enabled 2001
> <repeat indefinitely>
> 
> You can add the following to your ntp.conf to fix that problem:
> 
> 
> # maxpoll 9 is used to work around PLL/FLL flipping, which happens at
> # exactly 1024 seconds (the default maxpoll value).  Another FreeBSD
> # user recommended using 9 instead:
> # http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-stable/2006-December/031512.html
> #
> server some.ntp.server maxpoll 9
> 
> 
> I recommend using the "iburst" directive on one (and only one!) server
> lines in your config, otherwise ntpd will usually 'settle' for about
> 10-15 minutes before bothering to try and update the clock the first
> time around.  Example config:

Why "(and only one!)"? I have never seen a problem with 'iburst' on all
servers (assuming they are Internet connected". 'iburst' only makes a
difference on the initial query and, if the server you have marked as
'iburst' is unreachable, it will really slow down synchronization.

I am unaware of any issues with multiple servers being marked 'iburst'
and typically configure 7 ntp servers for a system, all tagged as
'iburst'. Never sen any issue with this.
-- 
R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634
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