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Date:      Thu, 08 Apr 1999 21:41:19 -0500
From:      Chris Csanady <cc@137.org>
To:        Duncan Barclay <dmlb@ragnet.demon.co.uk>
Cc:        Alfred Perlstein <bright@rush.net>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG, Peter Jeremy <peter.jeremy@auss2.alcatel.com.au>
Subject:   Re: Volume managers 
Message-ID:  <19990409024119.83B86AC@friley-185-205.res.iastate.edu>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 08 Apr 1999 20:33:57 BST." <XFMail.990408203357.dmlb@computer.my.domain> 

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>
>On Thu, 8 Apr 1999, Peter Jeremy wrote:
> 
>> Whilst we're all making up wishlists for things we'd like to see
>> (someone else implement): The `clone filesystem' command supported by
>> Digital UNIX ADVfs is _very_ nice for `point-in-time' backups.
>> (Basically clonefset makes a read-only snapshot of the filesystem -
>> changes to the `active' filesystem are done using copy-on-write).
>> 
>> Unfortunately, I suspect it couldn't be implemented within UFS
>> (because UFS relies on blocks being at particular physical locations
>> within a CG - ie superblock, array of inode blocks, data blocks -
>> which would make creating the copy-on-write blocks difficult).
>
>Well NetApps file system does a similar thing and it is based on UFS.
>The main trick they use is similar to that described in

I thought that NetApp now uses a log structured file system.  This
inherently makes growing/shrinking filesystems and snapshots very
easy.  It would be great to have a good lfs implementation.

Chris




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