From owner-freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Fri Aug 5 01:40:04 2016 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-virtualization@mailman.ysv.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) by mailman.ysv.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DCB50BAC8B2 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 01:40:04 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: from relay2.tomsk.ru (mail.sibptus.tomsk.ru [212.73.124.5]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4583A12F5 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 01:40:03 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Virus-Scanned: by clamd daemon 0.98.5_1 for FreeBSD at relay2.tomsk.ru Received: from [212.73.125.240] (HELO admin.sibptus.transneft.ru) by relay2.tomsk.ru (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.16) with ESMTPS id 39309086 for freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org; Fri, 05 Aug 2016 07:39:48 +0600 Received: from admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (sudakov@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id u751e21S089373 for ; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 08:40:02 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) Received: (from sudakov@localhost) by admin.sibptus.transneft.ru (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) id u751dxaP089357 for freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org; Fri, 5 Aug 2016 08:39:59 +0700 (KRAT) (envelope-from vas@mpeks.tomsk.su) X-Authentication-Warning: admin.sibptus.transneft.ru: sudakov set sender to vas@mpeks.tomsk.su using -f Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2016 08:39:59 +0700 From: Victor Sudakov To: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org Subject: A couple of newbie questions Message-ID: <20160805013959.GB88553@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Organization: AO "Svyaztransneft", SibPTUS X-PGP-Key: http://www.dreamwidth.org/pubkey?user=victor_sudakov X-PGP-Fingerprint: 10E3 1171 1273 E007 C2E9 3532 0DA4 F259 9B5E C634 User-Agent: Mutt/1.6.1 (2016-04-27) X-BeenThere: freebsd-virtualization@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22 Precedence: list List-Id: "Discussion of various virtualization techniques FreeBSD supports." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2016 01:40:05 -0000 Colleagues, I like bhyve very much, and have sucessfully run FreeBSD and Ubuntu 16.04 server in FreeBSD 10.3 bhyve, with vm-bhyve as a shell. Now I am trying to boot Windows 7 but have not succeeded so far. However there are things I don't quite understand. A couple of questions, if you allow. 1. Why is it that for some guest systems, there are two stages: first bhyveload or grub2-bhyve and then bhyve itself. And for UEFI systems there is only one stage. Does it mean that eventually bhyveload and grub2-bhyve will become totally obsolete and the one-stage VM startup procedure will become the universal method? 2. All this fbuf/VNC stuff looks cool, but I don't quite understand. You can see the guest OS's console in VNC, like the Windows desktop, or only the UEFI shell, and then you have to access the guest OS via RDP/ssh etc ? TIA for explanations. -- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN sip:sudakov@sibptus.tomsk.ru