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Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 12:04:02 +0200
From: Ruben de Groot <mail23@bzerk.org>
To: Josh Brooks <user@mail.econolodgetulsa.com>
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Subject: Re: No /proc or procfs by default in 5.1-RELEASE ... why ?
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On Tue, Jul 15, 2003 at 11:42:49PM -0700, Josh Brooks typed:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> As I am sure many have noticed, a default installation of 5.1-RELEASE will
> leave you with no procfs mounted at /proc, and no entry in /etc/fstab for
> a procfs.
> 
> Is this by design ?

Yes
 
> Is it better to not run /proc on 5.x ?

Securitywise, absolutely

> What are the consequences of running without a procfs on 5.x ?

I believe there's still some work going on to make a program like truss(8)
not use the /proc interface, but otherwise all normal utilities are clean.

> 
> OR
> 
> 
> Was this just a bug/oversight in the 5.1-RELEASE, and in reality we should
> definitely be running a procfs and have an entry in /etc/fstab, etc. ?
> 
> 
> This is with the GENERIC kernel, but other kernels I build with PROCFS
> also do not result in a procfs existing either - I always have to manually
> mount it.
> 
> 
> Any commnts of any kind related to the design decision that may have been
> behind this - or any explanation of a kind as to why the 5.1-RELEASE has
> no procfs mounted or in fstab by default is much apprecaited!

This has been discussed on the mailing lists extensively. Search the
archieves.

-Ruben

> thanks!
> 
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