From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sat Jan 16 04:57:47 2010 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE3CA106566B for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:57:47 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from glarkin@FreeBSD.org) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net (113901-app1.sourcehosting.net [72.32.213.11]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id ADEEF8FC0A for ; Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:57:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.sourcehosting.net ([74.205.51.45] helo=v101.entropy.prv) by mail1.sourcehosting.net with esmtp (Exim 4.69 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1NW0jA-0000xc-8a; Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:57:41 -0500 Message-ID: <4B51473F.90302@FreeBSD.org> Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2010 23:57:35 -0500 From: Greg Larkin Organization: The FreeBSD Project User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.23 (Macintosh/20090812) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Craig Whipp References: <4B509B51.3060809@strauser.com> <85E67FE7-4B01-40D0-A52E-BE8F3F083FAA@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <85E67FE7-4B01-40D0-A52E-BE8F3F083FAA@gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.96.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -4.7 (----) Cc: FreeBSD Questions Subject: Re: Dislike the way port conflicts are handled now X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: glarkin@FreeBSD.org List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 16 Jan 2010 04:57:47 -0000 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Craig Whipp wrote: > > On Jan 15, 2010, at 9:44 AM, Kirk Strauser wrote: > >> Until recently, it seems like port dependencies were handled at >> installation time. Lately, they're handled any time I try to do >> anything with a port. I absolutely detest the new behavior. Example >> cases: >> >> OLD WAY: >> >> $ cd /usr/ports/something/foo22 >> $ make >> $ pkg_delete foo21-2.1 >> $ make install >> >> NEW WAY >> >> $ cd /usr/ports/something/foo22 >> $ make >> ===> foo22 conflicts with installed package(s): foo21-2.1 >> $ make fetch >> ===> foo22 conflicts with installed package(s): foo21-2.1 >> $ curse --type=copious >> $ pkg_delete foo21-2.1 >> $ make install >> >> This isn't just a hypothetical pain in the butt. An example was being >> unable to build databases/mysql51-client because >> mysql-client-5.0.something was installed. I understand not being able >> to *install* it, but to be prevented from *building* it? In most >> circumstances, I want to be able to delete the old package and install >> the new one with minimal downtime. As another example, can you imagine >> not being able to even run "make fetch" on something huge like >> OpenOffice until you uninstalled the old version? >> >> In the mean time, I've been editing the port's Makefile to remove the >> CONFLICTS line long enough to finish building. That's not very helpful >> for those ports that don't actually build until you run "make >> install", but at least I can get the distfile download out of the way. >> -- >> >> Kirk Strauser >> > > I agree. I've found that this can interfere with portmaster's "-o" > option, used to replace an installed port with one of a different > origin. In my case, databases/mysql41-server with > databases/mysql55-server. > > - Craig This change was based on a recent PR (http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr.cgi?pr=137855) and made it into the tree a couple of weeks ago: http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk.diff?r1=1.631;r2=1.632 Since some folks like the old behavior and some folks like the new behavior, what do you all think of a user-selectable make.conf option to choose where the check-conflicts target appears in the port build sequence? Regards, Greg -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.10 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAktRRz8ACgkQ0sRouByUApA35ACfY9NU8NBKarCm6eTFRLt1y/Nf ar8AoIxF68LgUZBuATfHLRyfaAZ9SOtw =kG5z -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----