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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 13:32:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4FBBD37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:32:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B9D8243FAF for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:32:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tyler@cg1.org) Received: from user200.net422.nc.sprint-hsd.net ([65.40.107.200] helo=eaves) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18pb4j-0006ol-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 13:32:49 -0800 Message-ID: <000801c2e103$46d0dd80$6401a8c0@eaves> From: "Tyler Eaves" To: Subject: SPAM! Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:32:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can something PLEASE be done about this? To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 13:45:19 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E709737B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:45:18 -0800 (PST) Received: from pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net (pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.122]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5D3EE43FBD for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:45:18 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tyson@stanfordalumni.org) Received: from washdc3-ar2-4-43-237-150.washdc3.elnk.dsl.genuity.net ([4.43.237.150] helo=grape.home) by pintail.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18pbGm-0001YT-00; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 13:45:16 -0800 From: Don Tyson To: "Tyler Eaves" Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, tyson@alumni.stanford.org Subject: Re: SPAM! In-Reply-To: Message from "Tyler Eaves" of "Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:32:49 EST." <000801c2e103$46d0dd80$6401a8c0@eaves> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 16:45:21 -0500 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Can something PLEASE be done about this? Tyler -- Assuming you are complaining about messages from freebsd-newbies, this is a mailing list to which you -- or someone else using your name -- subscribed. But if that was a mistake, or a prank, the solution is as close as the bottom of this message, as well as the one you complained about and your complaint message as well. Just unsubscribe. Don > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 13:53:41 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EB3B237B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:53:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.aplusdata.com (64.83.13.117.dsl117-dhcp-orf.cavtel.net [64.83.13.117]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE16443F3F for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:53:38 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from anthonyabby@aplusdata.com) Received: from [10.10.10.102] (unknown [10.10.10.1]) by mail.aplusdata.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 080B8239E1 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:57:05 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: SPAM! From: Anthony Abby Reply-To: anthonyabby@aplusdata.com To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: text/plain Organization: A Plus Data Services Message-Id: <1046641903.17030.65.camel@laptop.aplusdata.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2-1mdk Date: 02 Mar 2003 16:51:43 -0500 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I thought he was complaining about the seemingly constant spams sent in to the list myself. Anthony On Sun, 2003-03-02 at 16:45, Don Tyson wrote: > > Can something PLEASE be done about this? > > Tyler -- > > Assuming you are complaining about messages from > freebsd-newbies, this is a mailing list to which you -- > or someone else using your name -- subscribed. > > But if that was a mistake, or a prank, the solution is > as close as the bottom of this message, as well as the one you > complained about and your complaint message as well. Just > unsubscribe. > > Don > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message -- Anthony Abby http://www.comicsnsuch.com | http://www.aplusdata.com Comic Book Community News | Web Programming Inventory Control, Auction, Management | Cold Fusion | PHP & ASP To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 13:54:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E55A37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:54:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net (anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net [194.217.242.90]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 86D1243FA3 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:54:44 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk) Received: from caomhin.demon.co.uk ([62.49.21.186]) by anchor-post-32.mail.demon.net with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1) id 18pbPv-000DNo-0W; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 21:54:43 +0000 Message-ID: <4LFax4B31nY+EwXO@caomhin.demon.co.uk> Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:53:59 +0000 To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Cc: Tyler Eaves From: Kevin Golding Subject: Re: SPAM! References: <000801c2e103$46d0dd80$6401a8c0@eaves> In-Reply-To: <000801c2e103$46d0dd80$6401a8c0@eaves> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Turnpike Integrated Version 5.01 U Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org In article <000801c2e103$46d0dd80$6401a8c0@eaves>, Tyler Eaves writes >Can something PLEASE be done about this? On a global scale or just this list? Quite a lot is done by many people in both situations. Globally - report it and eventually it'll lose it's appeal. This list - a lot is already stopped, and some people complain they can't always send mail because the spam measures are too strict, but it catches the vast majority of the spam without stopping most people posting. If you just don't want to see it in your inbox look up some of the numerous spam catching tools and install those. If you want recommendations then many of us have our favourites and after a brief holy war you may get a rough idea of what's out there. Kevin -- kevin@caomhin.demon.co.uk To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 13:57:15 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E8FB637B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:57:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from list-svr.nventure.com (list-svr.nventure.com [208.186.46.9]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 50C3843F93 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 13:57:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from plathem@ivestnw.net) Received: from ivestnw.net ([208.187.15.197]) by list-svr.nventure.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.3 release 223 ID# 0-67609U1600L200S0V35) with ESMTP id com; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:11:34 -0800 Message-ID: <3E627E34.9030302@ivestnw.net> Date: Sun, 02 Mar 2003 13:57:08 -0800 From: Pat Lathem User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030202 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Don Tyson Cc: Tyler Eaves , freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG, tyson@alumni.stanford.org Subject: Re: SPAM! References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I think this person was referring to the unsolicited email coming to freebsd-newbies. I am under the impression from another email posted that the postmaster does quite a lot to help prevent spam. Pat Lathem Don Tyson wrote: > > Can something PLEASE be done about this? > >Tyler -- > >Assuming you are complaining about messages from >freebsd-newbies, this is a mailing list to which you -- >or someone else using your name -- subscribed. > >But if that was a mistake, or a prank, the solution is >as close as the bottom of this message, as well as the one you >complained about and your complaint message as well. Just >unsubscribe. > >Don > > > >>To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >>with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message >> >> > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 14:49:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D3C6F37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:49:43 -0800 (PST) Received: from [204.213.64.2] (firewall.tiadon.com [204.213.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB80E43FBF for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 14:49:42 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kdk@daleco.biz) Received: from rmc.tiadon.com by [204.213.64.2] via smtpd (for mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) with ESMTP; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:49:42 -0600 Received: from applications.tiadon.com (mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) by bcec01.tiadon.net with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2653.13) id DKVJ14AT; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:49:41 -0600 Received: from firewall.tiadon.com ([204.213.65.87]) by applications.tiadon.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.197.19); Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:49:43 -0600 Received: from [204.213.65.87] by firewall.tiadon.com via smtpd (for mail.tiadon.com [172.16.18.172]) with ESMTP; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:49:38 -0600 Message-ID: <00e801c2e10d$ff6af7e0$0100a8c0@DaleCoportable> Reply-To: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Pat Lathem" , "Don Tyson" Cc: "Tyler Eaves" , , References: <3E627E34.9030302@ivestnw.net> Subject: Re: SPAM! Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:49:31 -0600 Organization: DaleCo, S.P.---"the solutions people" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2720.3000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Lathem" To: "Don Tyson" Cc: "Tyler Eaves" ; ; Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:57 PM Subject: Re: SPAM! > Tyler Eaves wrote: > > > > Can something PLEASE be done about this? > > Don Tyson wrote: > >Tyler -- > > > >Assuming you are complaining about messages from > >freebsd-newbies, this is a mailing list to which you -- > >or someone else using your name -- subscribed. > > > >But if that was a mistake, or a prank, the solution is > >as close as the bottom of this message, as well as the one you > >complained about and your complaint message as well. Just > >unsubscribe. > > > >Don > > > Pat Lathem wrote: > > I think this person was referring to the unsolicited email coming to > freebsd-newbies. I am under the impression from another email posted > that the postmaster does quite a lot to help prevent spam. > > Pat Lathem > > If you've ever read newsgroups, you'd realize that what comes through here is trivial by comparison. As someone has said, these lists (@freebsd.org, in general) are a rather huge (and non-moving) target. That said, in all fairness, I probably don't see everything Tyler does. If a piece of mail says "Viagra", "Africa+dollars", "a**f***ers", "saw it on Oprah", "Peter Paul Rubens", etc., etc., ad infinitum et ad nauseum, my mailer has a nice trashcan for that, and a ruleset, so it never comes around to offend me.... Kevin Kinsey DaleCo, S.P. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 15:11:59 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 12BF837B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:11:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net (falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.74]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 88CCF43FBD for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:11:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tyler@cg1.org) Received: from user200.net422.nc.sprint-hsd.net ([65.40.107.200] helo=eaves) by falcon.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18pccd-0006qL-00 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Sun, 02 Mar 2003 15:11:56 -0800 Message-ID: <001b01c2e111$1f783360$6401a8c0@eaves> From: "Tyler Eaves" To: References: <3E627E34.9030302@ivestnw.net> <00e801c2e10d$ff6af7e0$0100a8c0@DaleCoportable> Subject: Re: SPAM! Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:11:56 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Most of what I'm getting is of russian origin. Wouldn't a simple solution be to limit posting rights to subscribers? Almost every mailing list I subscribe to (quite a few, 15+) does this. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Kinsey, DaleCo, S.P." To: "Pat Lathem" ; "Don Tyson" Cc: "Tyler Eaves" ; ; Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: Re: SPAM! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Pat Lathem" > To: "Don Tyson" > Cc: "Tyler Eaves" ; ; > > Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:57 PM > Subject: Re: SPAM! > > > > Tyler Eaves wrote: > > > > > > Can something PLEASE be done about this? > > > > > Don Tyson wrote: > > > >Tyler -- > > > > > >Assuming you are complaining about messages from > > >freebsd-newbies, this is a mailing list to which you -- > > >or someone else using your name -- subscribed. > > > > > >But if that was a mistake, or a prank, the solution is > > >as close as the bottom of this message, as well as the one you > > >complained about and your complaint message as well. Just > > >unsubscribe. > > > > > >Don > > > > > Pat Lathem wrote: > > > > I think this person was referring to the unsolicited email coming > to > > freebsd-newbies. I am under the impression from another email > posted > > that the postmaster does quite a lot to help prevent spam. > > > > Pat Lathem > > > > > If you've ever read newsgroups, you'd realize that what > comes through here is trivial by comparison. As someone > has said, these lists (@freebsd.org, in general) are a rather > huge (and non-moving) target. > > That said, in all fairness, I probably don't see everything > Tyler does. If a piece of mail says "Viagra", "Africa+dollars", > "a**f***ers", "saw it on Oprah", "Peter Paul Rubens", > etc., etc., ad infinitum et ad nauseum, my mailer has a > nice trashcan for that, and a ruleset, so it never comes > around to offend me.... > > Kevin Kinsey > DaleCo, S.P. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 15:18:22 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0BA237B405 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:18:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from wantadilla.lemis.com (wantadilla.lemis.com [192.109.197.80]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75FB043FAF for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 15:18:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from grog@lemis.com) Received: by wantadilla.lemis.com (Postfix, from userid 1004) id 54AFD51A55; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:48:44 +1030 (CST) Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 09:48:44 +1030 From: Greg 'groggy' Lehey To: Tyler Eaves Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM! Message-ID: <20030302231844.GJ84581@wantadilla.lemis.com> References: <000801c2e103$46d0dd80$6401a8c0@eaves> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="0FRtVia6Q6lt+M0P" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <000801c2e103$46d0dd80$6401a8c0@eaves> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4i Organization: The FreeBSD Project Phone: +61-8-8388-8286 Fax: +61-8-8388-8725 Mobile: +61-418-838-708 WWW-Home-Page: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-PGP-Fingerprint: 9A1B 8202 BCCE B846 F92F 09AC 22E6 F290 507A 4223 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org --0FRtVia6Q6lt+M0P Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sunday, 2 March 2003 at 16:32:49 -0500, Tyler Eaves wrote: > Can something PLEASE be done about this? At face value, you appear to be asking to be removed from the list. If you're referring to something, you should state what. Typically we do this by quoting the original message. See http://www.lemis.com/email.html for more details. Greg -- See complete headers for address and phone numbers Please note: we block mail from major spammers, notably yahoo.com. See http://www.lemis.com/yahoospam.html for further details. --0FRtVia6Q6lt+M0P Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.0 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQE+YpFUIubykFB6QiMRAjYcAKCvWixGBNSb0ctZQ4btjYt3Tvg9xACfYtll utCC65rbINZwSwqa5MN/PVY= =J13a -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --0FRtVia6Q6lt+M0P-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 16:24:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C654B37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:24:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from net.wau.nl (NET.WAU.NL [137.224.10.12]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1948443F93 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:24:56 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from FST777@phreaker.net) Received: from asser079.athome239.wau.nl (asser079.athome239.wau.nl [137.224.239.79]) by net.WAU.NL (PMDF V5.2-32 #38746) with ESMTP id <0HB50074FD5JSW@net.WAU.NL> for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 01:24:55 +0100 (MET) Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 01:25:04 +0100 (CET) From: "Frans-Jan v. Steenbeek" Subject: Hi there! To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Reply-To: FST777@phreaker.net Message-id: <0HB50074GD5JSW@net.WAU.NL> MIME-version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Spruce 0.6.5 for X11 w/smtpio 0.7.9 Content-type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, I'm new on the list, so I decided to introduce myself. My name is Frans-Jan, some call me Fi-Ji. I reside in the Netherlands and am a 19 year old male human. I use FreeBSD 4.7 for some time now. Hope this is fun! grts Fi-Ji. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 16:37:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9458737B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:37:28 -0800 (PST) Received: from blueyonder.co.uk (pcow035o.blueyonder.co.uk [195.188.53.121]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B438443FAF for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 16:37:27 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from jfm@blueyonder.co.uk) Received: from lexx ([62.31.198.203]) by blueyonder.co.uk with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.5.1877.757.75); Mon, 3 Mar 2003 00:37:26 +0000 From: John Murphy To: FST777@phreaker.net Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi there! Date: Mon, 03 Mar 2003 00:37:25 +0000 Organization: poor Reply-To: jfm@blueyonder.co.uk Message-ID: References: <0HB50074GD5JSW@net.WAU.NL> In-Reply-To: <0HB50074GD5JSW@net.WAU.NL> X-Mailer: Forte Agent 1.9/32.560 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org "Frans-Jan v. Steenbeek" wrote: > >Hello all, > >I'm new on the list, so I decided to introduce myself. My name is >Frans-Jan, some call me Fi-Ji. I reside in the Netherlands and am a 19 = year >old male human. I use FreeBSD 4.7 for some time now. > >Hope this is fun! > >grts Fi-Ji. I think you will find it is. I hope you get a helpful answer to your scanner question in -questions. John. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 18:46:30 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 996DB37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:46:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from bus.shot1.org (dsl093-061-039.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.61.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD35C43FB1 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:46:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ch@bus.shot1.org) Received: by bus.shot1.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 67CE4AC61; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:46:26 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:46:26 -0500 From: Brian Roberts To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Hi there! Message-ID: <20030302214626.A675@bus.shot1.org> References: <0HB50074GD5JSW@net.WAU.NL> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i In-Reply-To: <0HB50074GD5JSW@net.WAU.NL>; from FST777@phreaker.net on Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 01:25:04AM +0100 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Mon, Mar 03, 2003 at 01:25:04AM +0100, Frans-Jan v. Steenbeek wrote: > > Hello all, > > I'm new on the list, so I decided to introduce myself. My name is > Frans-Jan, some call me Fi-Ji. I reside in the Netherlands and am a 19 year > old male human. I use FreeBSD 4.7 for some time now. > > Hope this is fun! > > grts Fi-Ji. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message Welcome, I've used BSD's for a while but am new to the mailing lists, its amazing what can be learned just by lurking these lists. Have Fun !! Brian Roberts - another human :) Pittsburgh, PA To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 18:55:20 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE00837B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:55:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from bus.shot1.org (dsl093-061-039.pit1.dsl.speakeasy.net [66.93.61.39]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 62DAD43F85 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:55:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ch@bus.shot1.org) Received: by bus.shot1.org (Postfix, from userid 1001) id 6772DAC61; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:55:18 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 21:55:18 -0500 From: Brian Roberts To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: irc Message-ID: <20030302215518.A770@bus.shot1.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5.1i Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello all, A long time ago (96ish) I used Mirc for a while to communicate with some friends, since then everyone has moved to aolim, icq or yahooim. I keep hearing that there is a wealth of info and supports for opensource apps on irc so im going to have a try at it again. I havee a few questions.... Is it worth it? Can anyone suggest a good app to use? Im fairly comfortable in a shell environment. Also, anyone have a prefered how-to? I googled a bunch, but they seem to be app specific. Thanks in advance. Brian To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 19:27:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2444F37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:27:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01.attbi.com [204.127.202.61]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6A81843F3F for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:27:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from DougB@freebsd.org) Received: from master.gorean.org (12-234-22-23.client.attbi.com[12.234.22.23]) by sccrmhc01.attbi.com (sccrmhc01) with SMTP id <2003030303272300100j91che>; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 03:27:23 +0000 Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 19:27:22 -0800 (PST) From: Doug Barton To: Tyler Eaves Cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: SPAM! In-Reply-To: <001b01c2e111$1f783360$6401a8c0@eaves> Message-ID: <20030302192605.Y1326@znfgre.tberna.bet> References: <3E627E34.9030302@ivestnw.net> <00e801c2e10d$ff6af7e0$0100a8c0@DaleCoportable> <001b01c2e111$1f783360$6401a8c0@eaves> Organization: http://www.FreeBSD.org/ X-message-flag: Outlook -- Not just for spreading viruses anymore! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Sun, 2 Mar 2003, Tyler Eaves wrote: > Most of what I'm getting is of russian origin. > Wouldn't a simple solution be to limit posting rights to subscribers? This, and all sorts of other clever solutions are frequently suggested, but turn out not to be a good fit for the freebsd lists. The situation is currently about as good as it gets, so if the spam level is unacceptable to you, learn to filter. :) Doug -- This .signature sanitized for your protection To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 20:12:51 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2877F37B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:12:50 -0800 (PST) Received: from fozzy.webair.com (fozzy.webair.com [216.130.161.185]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 428C643FB1 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 20:12:49 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from noodle@pwnd.org) Received: (qmail 41243 invoked from network); 3 Mar 2003 04:05:57 -0000 Received: from md-wstmstr-cuda1-c8a-195-b.wmnsmd.adelphia.net (HELO noodlexp) (68.65.109.195) by fozzy.webair.com with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 04:05:57 -0000 Message-ID: <019a01c2e13b$24aec9f0$0a00000a@noodlexp> From: "kirt" To: References: <20030302215518.A770@bus.shot1.org> Subject: Re: irc Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 23:12:39 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org > Hello all, > > A long time ago (96ish) I used Mirc for a while to communicate with some friends, since then everyone has moved to aolim, icq or yahooim. I keep hearing that there is a wealth of info and supports for opensource apps on irc so im going to have a try at it again. > > I havee a few questions.... > > Is it worth it? > Can anyone suggest a good app to use? Im fairly comfortable in a shell environment. > Also, anyone have a prefered how-to? I googled a bunch, but they seem to be app specific. > > Thanks in advance. > Brian > BitchX is nice enough www.bitchx.org runs happily in your average shell or in X /usr/ports/irc/bitchx/ for the port supports "windows" to allow you to view multiple channels and easy keystroke navigation of said windows (if you've ever used screen, it's very similar) the cypress script for BitchX has some handy features as well http://www.mindcryme.com/~void/ --kirt --www.pwnd.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sun Mar 2 22:57:37 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAF0337B401 for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:57:35 -0800 (PST) Received: from ns6.icdc.com (mailin.icdc.com [208.244.152.35]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BB73343FAF for ; Sun, 2 Mar 2003 22:57:34 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from csmith@icdc.com) Received: from WAND (pool-151-197-228-141.phil.east.verizon.net [151.197.228.141]) by ns6.icdc.com (8.11.3/8.11.3) with SMTP id h236vRf29475; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 01:57:27 -0500 (EST) Message-ID: <002e01c2e152$3c6476a0$1002a8c0@WAND> From: "Chauncey Smith" To: "kirt" , References: <20030302215518.A770@bus.shot1.org> <019a01c2e13b$24aec9f0$0a00000a@noodlexp> Subject: Re: irc Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 01:57:57 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I'll say xchat. I have my x windows going and I love the graphical inter face. ----- Original Message ----- From: "kirt" To: Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 11:12 PM Subject: Re: irc > > Hello all, > > > > A long time ago (96ish) I used Mirc for a while to communicate with some > friends, since then everyone has moved to aolim, icq or yahooim. I keep > hearing that there is a wealth of info and supports for opensource apps on > irc so im going to have a try at it again. > > > > I havee a few questions.... > > > > Is it worth it? > > Can anyone suggest a good app to use? Im fairly comfortable in a shell > environment. > > Also, anyone have a prefered how-to? I googled a bunch, but they seem to > be app specific. > > > > Thanks in advance. > > Brian > > > > BitchX is nice enough > > www.bitchx.org > > runs happily in your average shell or in X > > /usr/ports/irc/bitchx/ for the port > > supports "windows" to allow you to view multiple channels and easy keystroke > navigation of said windows (if you've ever used screen, it's very similar) > > the cypress script for BitchX has some handy features as well > > http://www.mindcryme.com/~void/ > > --kirt > --www.pwnd.org > > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 3 6:59:34 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAD5F37B405 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:59:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from qn-212-58-178-95.quicknet.nl (qn-212-58-178-95.quicknet.nl [212.58.178.95]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4AA3E43F93 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:59:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from vymct@granit.ru) From: Инфо To: Freebsd-newbies Subject: Freebsd-newbies Информация для вас. MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/html; charset=Windows-1251 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030303145924.4AA3E43F93@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Date: Mon, 3 Mar 2003 06:59:24 -0800 (PST) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 3 8: 0:10 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C9D937B405 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:00:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (imap.gmx.net [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 87E7343FCB for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:00:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from silk_worm@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 26871 invoked by uid 0); 3 Mar 2003 16:00:05 -0000 Received: from pD9E3CC60.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.0.6?) (217.227.204.96) by mail.gmx.net (mp001-rz3) with SMTP; 3 Mar 2003 16:00:05 -0000 Subject: Saying hello ... From: Matthias Szupryczynski Reply-To: silk_worm@gmx.net To: freeBSD-newbies Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1046707126.591.83.camel@arwen.lindenstrasse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 03 Mar 2003 16:58:46 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Have been subscribed to the list now for about two weeks now, and I thought introducing myself would be the right thing to do before I start asking questions ;) My name is Matthias, born in Germany and living there again after one year studying in Melbourne for my bachelor of IT, and I recently started using FreeBSD, after hacking my way through Debian Linux more or less sucessfully for about a year now .. means I am able to get X running, compile a kernel and write my own iptables script; my router is still running linux for that reason ;) Now I have installed FreeBSD 5.0 on my workstation, built and installed the world and kernel, and got Gnome 2.2 running. Next thing to do is getting a firewall up and running, and installing / securing necessary services like apache, sshd, bind, samba and nfs. Well, to keep it short, that's my story. Until now. the mailing list(s) archives and the handbook were able to solve any of my problems, but that won't be so forever I guess. Speak to you guys soon Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Mon Mar 3 8:36:24 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B92D837B414 for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:36:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from sinamail.com (61-221-29-145.HINET-IP.hinet.net [61.221.29.145]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EAD0543F3F for ; Mon, 3 Mar 2003 08:36:17 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from suppergeorge@sinamail.com) From: star@yahoo.com.tw To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: =?ISO-8859-1?B?prO+97d8p0HEQLdOpWi5wbjVttw/Pw==?= Reply-To: suppergeorge@sinamail.com Date: 04 Mar 2003 00:41:24 +0800 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Message-Id: <20030303163617.EAD0543F3F@mx1.FreeBSD.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ¬°¤°»т¦і¤H·|¤с§A¦ЁҐ\10­ї
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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 4 15:29:32 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F3B4537B401 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:29:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4F9F343F75 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:29:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b047.otenet.gr [195.167.121.175]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h24NSmIH029897 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:29:02 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h24NShjs006949 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:28:43 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h24NSYpG006948; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:28:34 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:28:34 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Matthias Szupryczynski Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: Re: Saying hello ... Message-ID: <20030304232834.GA6878@gothmog.gr> References: <1046707126.591.83.camel@arwen.lindenstrasse> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <1046707126.591.83.camel@arwen.lindenstrasse> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-03-03 16:58, Matthias Szupryczynski wrote: > Have been subscribed to the list now for about two weeks now, and I > thought introducing myself would be the right thing to do before I > start asking questions ;) > [...] > Well, to keep it short, that's my story. Until now. the mailing > list(s) archives and the handbook were able to solve any of my > problems, but that won't be so forever I guess. Yep, you'll soon be able to solve problems without looking at the archives at all :-) > Speak to you guys soon Glad to have you on the list, Matthias. Was it fun in Melbourne? It's one of the cities I'd definitely like to visit some day. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Tue Mar 4 15:36: 8 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7634D37B401 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:36:06 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D74443FA3 for ; Tue, 4 Mar 2003 15:36:05 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b047.otenet.gr [195.167.121.175]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h24Na2IH007693; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:36:03 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h24Na1js007034; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:36:01 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h24NZudg007029; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:35:56 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 01:35:56 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: Brian Roberts Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: irc Message-ID: <20030304233556.GB6878@gothmog.gr> References: <20030302215518.A770@bus.shot1.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20030302215518.A770@bus.shot1.org> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-03-02 21:55, Brian Roberts wrote: > Hello all, > A long time ago (96ish) I used Mirc for a while to communicate with > some friends, since then everyone has moved to aolim, icq or > yahooim. I keep hearing that there is a wealth of info and supports > for opensource apps on irc so im going to have a try at it again. IRC is fun :) It's also addictive. I spent a great deal of the last 2-3 years on IRC and then realised that I was spending too much time there! > I havee a few questions.... > > Is it worth it? Can anyone suggest a good app to use? The ports collection includes an irc/ category under /usr/ports. I have at times used ircII, ircII-EPIC4, BitchX, xchat, kvirc, and a few others. These days, I'm trying out irssi, which looks fairly nice. Easy to install and use, with separate 'windows' for private and channel messages, smart setup and easy configuration... it's definitely what I'll suggest to all new IRC users from now on. > Im fairly comfortable in a shell environment. Also, anyone have a > prefered how-to? I googled a bunch, but they seem to be app > specific. A good IRC client should come with online /help commands. A typical session for my irssi client is: bash-2.x$ irssi -n keramida -c undernet then it's just a matter of typing /join, /part and /query as you used to do with mIRC. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 5 18: 7:17 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E2A6037B421 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:07:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl (pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl [213.25.59.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3DB2043F93 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:07:13 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl) Received: (from root@localhost) by pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h2627Fh32229; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 03:07:15 +0100 Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 03:07:15 +0100 Message-Id: <200303060207.h2627Fh32229@pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: elektroniczny miesiecznik polskiego eksportera - 1 wydanie From: AMPE Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org www.Eksportuj.pl skierowany jest do wszystkich tych, ktorzy na co dzien zajmuja sie problematyka wspolpracy handlowej z zagranica. Ma wskazywac Panstwu potencjalne mozliwosci nawiazania korzystnych kontaktow w sferze handlu i inwestycji oraz kierowac Panstwa uwage glownie w strone regionow i rynkow mniej popularnych w Polsce, czy na temat wspolpracy z ktorymi informacja jest znikoma lub trudno dostepna. Swoja tematyka obejmie zagadnienia pomocne przede wszystkim w eksporcie na rynki Dalekiego i Bliskiego Wschodu, Afryki czy Ameryki Јacinskiej. Najnowszy numer jak i kolejne dostepne jedynie w prenumeracie. (format pdf.) Prenumerata jest bezplatna Jednak ............ .........................maja do niej dostep jedynie osoby subskrybujace nowosci w serwisie internetowym Agencji Marketingu i Promocji Eksportu AMPE. Jak zamowic prenumerate???.......Jest to bardzo proste, wystarczy zamowic subskrypcje kliknac na link podany ponizej, a otrzymacie Panstwo e-mailem dostep do pierwszego wydania lutowego. link: http://www.ampe.pl/mailing_system.php?action=confirm&email=freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org&r=2b31c0ca&c=8ddc576a To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 5 18:35:16 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4E5E037B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:35:15 -0800 (PST) Received: from cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu (cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu [192.12.69.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3F3343FB1 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:35:14 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from srini@CS.Arizona.EDU) Received: from lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU (lectura.cs.arizona.edu [192.12.69.186]) by cheltenham.cs.arizona.edu (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h262ZEsh040210 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:35:14 -0700 (MST) (envelope-from srini@CS.Arizona.EDU) Received: from lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU (8.12.2+Sun/8.12.2) with ESMTP id h262ZEtS026469 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:35:14 -0700 (MST) Received: from localhost (srini@localhost) by lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU (8.12.2+Sun/8.12.2/Submit) with ESMTP id h262ZEZN026465 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:35:14 -0700 (MST) X-Authentication-Warning: lectura.CS.Arizona.EDU: srini owned process doing -bs Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:35:14 -0700 (MST) From: "Srinivas V." To: Subject: problems with pkg_add Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello I recently setup a system with FreeBSD 4.5. I've been trying to install the packages autoconf and automake on it. I downloaded the packages from a freebsd ftp site. when i used pkg_add, i get the following error: # pkg_add autoconf-2.53_1.tgz gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated tar: child returned status 1 tar: +CONTENTS not found in archive pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file `+CONTENTS' - not a package? # I get a similar error when I try installing the automake package too. The files do seem to be valid compressed files. when i use the file command i get: # file autoconf-2.53_1.tgz autoconf-2.53_1.tgz: gzip compressed data, deflated, last modified: Fri Feb 21 08:23:11 2003, max compression, os: Unix # I downloaded the files twice, in case I had downloaded a corrupted version the first time. Any suggestions ?? Thanx srinivas To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 5 18:38:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 490E337B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:38:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net (grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.46]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7E86F43FB1 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 18:38:24 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tyler@cg1.org) Received: from user200.net422.nc.sprint-hsd.net ([65.40.107.200] helo=eaves) by grebe.mail.pas.earthlink.net with smtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18qlGu-0000Wf-00; Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:38:12 -0800 Message-ID: <000f01c2e389$7106a200$6401a8c0@eaves> From: "Tyler Eaves" To: "Srinivas V." Cc: References: Subject: Re: problems with pkg_add Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:38:14 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org ----- Original Message ----- From: "Srinivas V." To: Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2003 9:35 PM Subject: problems with pkg_add > Any suggestions ?? > > Thanx > > srinivas Hrm, maybe use pkg_add's -r option to let it fetch the packages? IE: pkg_add -r autoconf I like to throw the -v option in there as well, as it will give you an idea of what's being downloaded. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Wed Mar 5 20: 6:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2AA937B401 for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:06:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.networks.pl (ampe.com.pl [217.11.129.70]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09E2F43FBD for ; Wed, 5 Mar 2003 20:06:53 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from web@mail.networks.pl) Received: by mail.networks.pl (Postfix, from userid 509) id 87BD356778; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 05:08:11 +0100 (CET) To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: EKSPORTUJ.PL /luty 2003/ From: AMPE <> Message-Id: <20030306040811.87BD356778@mail.networks.pl> Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 05:08:11 +0100 (CET) Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Szanowni Panstwo! Pelna wersja lutowego miesiecznika eksporterow dostepna jest w formacie pdf. Aby ja pobrac kliknij na ponizszy link: link: http://www.ampe.pl/mailing_system.php?action=exporter&email=freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org&r=2b31c0ca&c=8ddc576a SPIS TRESCI INDIE w SKROCIE Rzad Indii stwarza dogodne warunki znoszac licencje, likwidujac listy branz zastrzezonych do tej pory dla sektora publicznego, dopuszczajac nawet 100% udzialy kapitalu zagranicznego, stwarzajac dogodne warunki dla repatriacji kapitalow i zyskow. W Indiach istnieje tez wolny kapital szukajacy lokat i o taki kapital strona polska winna rowniez zabiegac. OFERTY z/do INDII a. oferta eksportowa do Indii b. oferta importowa z Indii c. oferty joint-venture oraz oferty inwestycyjne d. wspolpraca INDIE- BLISKI, DALEKI KRAJ Praktycznie wszystkie galezie przemyslu stwarzaja warunki dla wspolpracy handlowej i gospodarczej. To powinno wytyczac kierunki naszego tam dzialania! 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To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 6 12:35:11 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646BE37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:35:09 -0800 (PST) Received: from hestia.email.starband.net (smtp3.starband.net [148.78.247.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 546D443FBF for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:35:08 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottmcclellan@starband.net) Received: from mooeymachine (vsat-148-64-148-75.c005.g4.mrt.starband.net [148.64.148.75]) by hestia.email.starband.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h26KYs1q012545 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:35:05 -0500 From: "scott mcclellan" To: Subject: need help installing freebsd Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 14:34:57 -0600 Message-ID: <000401c2e41f$dd423ce0$4b944094@mooeymachine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I've got an old 386, 16meg RAM, 1Gig HD, Creative Infra 1800 CD-ROM, with floppy capability. About 2 years ago I formatted the hard drive (got sick of Windows locking up on me), no longer have the boot disks, and am looking to use the computer to learn how to program on outside of Windows (looking at starting with Python). Was steered toward FreeBSD, and I noticed that it would install on the RAM I had available. Fortunately, I've noticed a number of other things along my surfing for information. I wasn't able to get the computer to recognize the CD-ROM. Found out through your site that a great number of units get installed as the slave of the Secondary IDE (mine was, much to my dismay). I've since corrected that problem, I think. I've downloaded the 4.7 ISO image disk 1, and saw through the letters here that I only needed that one to boot from. Thinking I had solved my CD-ROM recognition problem, I want to boot from a CD rather than load 40 floppies into my machine. The following is what I encounter on the screen: "Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM : FAILURE NO /boot/loader >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel Boot: No /kernel >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel Boot:" Any suggestions - other than throw out the "old" machine. And yes, I'm sending this message via a working Window XP machine. Thanks Scott McClellan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 6 12:45:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6394937B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:45:16 -0800 (PST) Received: from deimos.frii.net (deimos.frii.com [216.17.128.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A6B4843FB1 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 12:45:15 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from tpconnolly@frii.com) Received: from tconnolly (g8denver.org [207.109.48.8] (may be forged)) by deimos.frii.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h26KjD7s033898; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:45:14 -0700 (MST) From: "Thomas Connolly" To: "'scott mcclellan'" , Subject: RE: need help installing freebsd Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 13:45:12 -0700 Message-ID: <003d01c2e421$4a528190$5608a8c0@ceesi.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.4510 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 In-Reply-To: <000401c2e41f$dd423ce0$4b944094@mooeymachine> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Sounds like you may have a bad ISO Image. Which software did you use to burn the image? This happened to me once (I forget which package I used originally) so I re-burned the image using NERO and it worked fine. Good luck. Thomas P. Connolly Senior Development Engineer Colorado Engineering Experiment Station Inc. Phone: (970) 897-2711 Fax: (970) 897-2710 Email: tconnolly@ceesi.com -----Original Message----- From: owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org [mailto:owner-freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org] On Behalf Of scott mcclellan Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2003 1:35 PM To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: need help installing freebsd I've got an old 386, 16meg RAM, 1Gig HD, Creative Infra 1800 CD-ROM, with floppy capability. About 2 years ago I formatted the hard drive (got sick of Windows locking up on me), no longer have the boot disks, and am looking to use the computer to learn how to program on outside of Windows (looking at starting with Python). Was steered toward FreeBSD, and I noticed that it would install on the RAM I had available. Fortunately, I've noticed a number of other things along my surfing for information. I wasn't able to get the computer to recognize the CD-ROM. Found out through your site that a great number of units get installed as the slave of the Secondary IDE (mine was, much to my dismay). I've since corrected that problem, I think. I've downloaded the 4.7 ISO image disk 1, and saw through the letters here that I only needed that one to boot from. Thinking I had solved my CD-ROM recognition problem, I want to boot from a CD rather than load 40 floppies into my machine. The following is what I encounter on the screen: "Boot from ATAPI CD-ROM : FAILURE NO /boot/loader >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel Boot: No /kernel >>FreeBSD/i386 BOOT Default: 0:ad(0,a)/kernel Boot:" Any suggestions - other than throw out the "old" machine. And yes, I'm sending this message via a working Window XP machine. Thanks Scott McClellan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 6 15:21: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5FD8E37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:21:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from apollo.email.starband.net (smtp3.starband.net [148.78.247.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 79BBA43F93 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:21:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottmcclellan@starband.net) Received: from mooeymachine (vsat-148-64-148-75.c005.g4.mrt.starband.net [148.64.148.75]) by apollo.email.starband.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h26NKhVi004405 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 18:20:59 -0500 From: "scott mcclellan" To: Subject: Installing with floppies Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 17:20:45 -0600 Message-ID: <000201c2e437$0805fea0$4b944094@mooeymachine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org I wrote an earlier thread with regards to installing via CD-ROM. Unfortunately I think I have a hardware technical problem that's beyond my intellect at this point. (Get a FAILURE error when the boot process starts - the CD hadn't even started humming yet) I've started the installation process a couple of times with the floppies. In fact, I must have something on the computer (meaning FreeBSD of some sort) after having used the 'kern' and 'mfsroot' disks. My question is, "Do you need to load all the distribution files when it asks you to, or is the OS actually on my system at this point, and I just don't know what the heck (censored) I'm doing. My problem with the distribution downloads is I apparently have a couple of bad disks, and each time the system finds that it can't access one of the files, it shuts down the loading process. I've finally gotten smart and have vtty2 on the monitor so I can see which disk goes awry, but this doesn't make the process go any easier, since when the loading stops, I have to start the distribution download all the way from the beginning again. Is there anyway to start the distribution download process where it last left off? (This is why I was hoping the CD-ROM route would work - unfortunately NOT!!) I hate beating myself up over this process, but I'm beginning to feel like the ULTIMATE NEWBIE with this. Someone toss me a preserver. Scott McClellan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Thu Mar 6 15:29:47 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1ABBB37B401 for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:29:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from flint.asuneft.ru (flint.asuneft.ru [213.141.201.65]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 460EB43FBD for ; Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:29:33 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from ISPotrepalov@asuneft.ru) Received: (from root@localhost) by flint.asuneft.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h26NTKa48444 for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org.AVP; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 04:29:20 +0500 (YEKT) (envelope-from ISPotrepalov@asuneft.ru) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 04:29:20 +0500 (YEKT) Message-Id: <200303062329.h26NTKa48444@flint.asuneft.ru> From: ISPotrepalov@asuneft.ru To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org Subject: RECIPIENT ! 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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="=NEXT=AVPCHECK=2003=066=1046993359=48432=1=" Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org This is a MIME-encapsulated message --=NEXT=AVPCHECK=2003=066=1046993359=48432=1= Content-Type:text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding:koi8-r User ISPotrepalov@asuneft.ru sent to you mail with virus. ------------------------------------- AVP report: ------------------------------------- archive: Mail /html suspicion: Exploit.IFrame.FileDownload /target.scr ok. /mapstats.xls ok. ------------------------------------- This message redirect to anton@localhost.localdomain --=NEXT=AVPCHECK=2003=066=1046993359=48432=1= Content-Type: message/rfc822 --=NEXT=AVPCHECK=2003=066=1046993359=48432=1=-- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 4:16:21 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0AA037B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 04:16:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from web13301.mail.yahoo.com (web13301.mail.yahoo.com [216.136.175.37]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 44D5643FAF for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 04:16:19 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from maria_libera2000@yahoo.it) Message-ID: <20030307121619.79947.qmail@web13301.mail.yahoo.com> Received: from [80.117.50.217] by web13301.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 13:16:19 CET Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:16:19 +0100 (CET) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Mica=20Telodico?= Subject: How to mount ext3 partitions? To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hi, I've migrated from linux to freebsd few days ago, but now I have an important problem. I use FREEBSD 5 The problem is: In linux ,before deleting the partitions, I've stored all my datas in an EXT3 partitions , in order to copy these datas later on the UFS Slice. After the installation of BSD I've recompiled the kernel and added the "options EXT2FS" option . Now when I try to mount the EXT3 partition appears the message "/dev/ad0s2 : Invalid argument" ??? Why? In the console appears (written in white) "mount_ext2fs : Unable to mount bla bla bla due to an unsupported feature " I've thought immediatly that the unsupported feature was the journal, can be it? 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Cellulari: loghi, suonerie, picture message per il tuo telefonino http://it.yahoo.com/mail_it/foot/?http://it.mobile.yahoo.com/index2002.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 5:37:12 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78BC937B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 05:37:11 -0800 (PST) Received: from plintus.lcm.msu.ru (plintus.lcm.msu.ru [193.232.113.219]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3F3F43F75 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 05:37:07 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from epbox@yandex.ru) Received: from hq.sectorb.msk.ru (IDENT:root@petaflop.lcm.msu.ru [193.232.113.220]) by plintus.lcm.msu.ru (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h27Db1n08499 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:37:02 +0300 Received: from 192.168.17.99 (vlad.dorms.msu.ru [192.168.17.99]) by hq.sectorb.msk.ru (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id h27Db1H01636 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:37:01 +0300 Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:37:03 +0300 From: Vlad Kozin X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.61) Reply-To: Vlad Kozin X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <8413576922.20030307163703@yandex.ru> To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: problems with pkg_add In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello Srinivas, Thursday, March 6, 2003, 5:35:14 AM, you wrote: SV> # pkg_add autoconf-2.53_1.tgz SV> gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--format violated SV> tar: child returned status 1 SV> tar: +CONTENTS not found in archive SV> pkg_add: unable to open table of contents file `+CONTENTS' - not a package? SV> # SV> # file autoconf-2.53_1.tgz SV> autoconf-2.53_1.tgz: gzip compressed data, deflated, last modified: Fri SV> Feb 21 08:23:11 2003, max compression, os: Unix SV> # Try using a binary mode while ftp-downloading if u haven't yet? -- Best regards, Vlad mailto:epbox@yandex.ru To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 5:58:56 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F2E4337B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 05:58:54 -0800 (PST) Received: from mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net (mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net [63.231.195.113]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30C9143FBD for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 05:58:54 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wolfryder@qwest.net) Received: (qmail 32022 invoked by uid 0); 7 Mar 2003 13:38:46 -0000 Received: from mpls-pop-14.inet.qwest.net (63.231.195.14) by mpls-qmqp-02.inet.qwest.net with QMQP; 7 Mar 2003 13:38:46 -0000 Received: from adsl189.omah.uswest.net (HELO wolf.qwest.net) (209.180.104.189) by mpls-pop-14.inet.qwest.net with SMTP; 7 Mar 2003 13:58:53 -0000 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 08:03:46 -0600 Message-Id: <5.1.0.14.2.20030307075242.00a9e890@pop.omah.uswest.net> From: "WolfRyder" To: freebsd-newbies@FREEBSD.org X-Sender: wolfryder@pop.omah.uswest.net X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.1 Subject: Re: need help installing freebsd In-Reply-To: <000401c2e41f$dd423ce0$4b944094@mooeymachine> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org At 02:34 PM 3/6/03 -0600, scott mcclellan wrote: -snip- > > I wasn't able to get the computer to > >recognize the CD-ROM. Found out through your site that a great number of > >units get installed as the slave of the Secondary IDE (mine was, much to > >my dismay). I've since corrected that problem, I think. I had the same problem and thought I'd fixed it in setup. Had to fiddle with it a few times. Then, installing on a Maxtor HD, I tried the install a few times and it screwed up royally. 1st time, it appeared that the CD had been burned too fast for my computer. 2nd time, it appeared trash was left on the HD (was windows installed on it before) and I had to zero it out and 3rd time was the charm with a slower burned CD of the Mini. I then went online to download the rest of what I wanted using ports. (All this was preliminary to the 4 times I had to reinstall cause I screwed something else up.) I'm not sure where I d/loaded the Mini from, but if you want, I can check. btw, I now have 2 machines running smoothly with FreeBSD, thanks to the help from this list and a few other sources :) Thanks ppl! Carol ps. don't throw out your old machine! Just a little (well, a whole _Lot_ of) patience and you'll get it working. > >Any suggestions - other than throw out the "old" machine. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 9:11:32 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5EC1637B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:11:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mailsrv.otenet.gr (mailsrv.otenet.gr [195.170.0.5]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 24E4343F75 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 09:11:28 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: from gothmog.gr (patr530-b217.otenet.gr [212.205.244.225]) by mailsrv.otenet.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h27HBONJ008417 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:11:25 +0200 (EET) Received: from gothmog.gr (gothmog [127.0.0.1]) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h27HBOMA005670 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:11:24 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Received: (from giorgos@localhost) by gothmog.gr (8.12.8/8.12.8/Submit) id h27H1e8h005527; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:01:40 +0200 (EET) (envelope-from keramida@ceid.upatras.gr) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:01:40 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas To: WolfRyder Cc: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: need help installing freebsd Message-ID: <20030307170140.GL2094@gothmog.gr> References: <000401c2e41f$dd423ce0$4b944094@mooeymachine> <5.1.0.14.2.20030307075242.00a9e890@pop.omah.uswest.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5.1.0.14.2.20030307075242.00a9e890@pop.omah.uswest.net> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On 2003-03-07 08:03, WolfRyder wrote: > At 02:34 PM 3/6/03 -0600, scott mcclellan wrote: >> I wasn't able to get the computer to recognize the CD-ROM. Found >> out through your site that a great number of units get installed as >> the slave of the Secondary IDE (mine was, much to my dismay). I've >> since corrected that problem, I think. FreeBSD is more picky about cabling and master/slave setup of devices than other operating systems (like, for instance, the one from Redmond). Putting a CDROM as a slave without a master on the secondary IDE cable is a very common 'mistake' when trying to boot the installer of FreeBSD. Fixing the jumpers on the offending device, be it a disk or a CDROM or anything else, usually makes things a lot better :) > I had the same problem and thought I'd fixed it in setup. Had to > fiddle with it a few times. Then, installing on a Maxtor HD, I > tried the install a few times and it screwed up royally. [...] > btw, I now have 2 machines running smoothly with FreeBSD, thanks to > the help from this list and a few other sources :) Cool. That's the spirit! Patience, when dealing with a new operating system, which is radically different from what one has dealt with until now, really *is* a virtue. - Giorgos PS: Carol, I no longer have the address of Scott in my -chat folder, and you haven't Cc:'d the reply to him. If you think that he might miss this reply can you check your Outbox and forward this message to his address? PS.2: This is one of the reasons why it's a good idea to Cc: the original sender when posting a reply to a list :-) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 10:21: 4 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 038B337B405 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:21:02 -0800 (PST) Received: from motgate.mot.com (motgate.mot.com [129.188.136.100]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D202A43FB1 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 10:21:00 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from Charles.S.Libby@motorola.com) Received: from pobox.mot.com (pobox.mot.com [129.188.137.100]) by motgate.mot.com (Motorola/Motgate) with ESMTP id h27IL0km000073 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:21:00 -0700 (MST) Received: [from il33exm02.wes.mot.com (il33exm02.wes.mot.com [154.56.3.102]) by pobox.mot.com (MOT-pobox 2.0) with ESMTP id LAA27310 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:21:00 -0700 (MST)] Received: from motorola.com (DHCP129_188_138_177.corp.mot.com [129.188.138.177]) by il33exm02.wes.mot.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail Service Version 5.5.2656.59) id 1SRVF4F2; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:20:59 -0600 Message-ID: <3E68E348.3000208@motorola.com> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 12:22:00 -0600 From: "Charles S. Libby" Reply-To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.3b) Gecko/20030210 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Cc: scott mcclellan Subject: Re: Installing with floppies References: <000201c2e437$0805fea0$4b944094@mooeymachine> In-Reply-To: <000201c2e437$0805fea0$4b944094@mooeymachine> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org scott mcclellan wrote: >I wrote an earlier thread with regards to installing via CD-ROM. >Unfortunately I think I have a hardware technical problem that's beyond >my intellect at this point. (Get a FAILURE error when the boot process >starts - the CD hadn't even started humming yet) > >I've started the installation process a couple of times with the >floppies. In fact, I must have something on the computer (meaning >FreeBSD of some sort) after having used the 'kern' and 'mfsroot' disks. > >My question is, "Do you need to load all the distribution files when it >asks you to, or is the OS actually on my system at this point, and I >just don't know what the heck (censored) I'm doing. > >My problem with the distribution downloads is I apparently have a couple >of bad disks, and each time the system finds that it can't access one of >the files, it shuts down the loading process. > > I had the same problem with my machine. I have FreeBSD 4.5 Running on a P133 and I had used that machine to play. I had to delete the partitions from a previous Linux install. The easiest way is to use an MSDOS boot floppy (maybe 98 recovery disk) and do an fdisk. Create an MSpartition. I delete this later when I do an entire disk install, (2Gig) but it worked. I had to boot from a floppy and install it from the CDROM. I am about to upgrade to 5.0 on that machine ( When I get the time) >I've finally gotten smart and have vtty2 on the monitor so I can see >which disk goes awry, but this doesn't make the process go any easier, >since when the loading stops, I have to start the distribution download >all the way from the beginning again. Is there anyway to start the >distribution download process where it last left off? (This is why I was >hoping the CD-ROM route would work - unfortunately NOT!!) > >I hate beating myself up over this process, but I'm beginning to feel >like the ULTIMATE NEWBIE with this. > > I have been playing at this part time for three years now and I still feel like the Ultimate Newbie. I still have not figured out how to get my palm to connect using the serial port, but since it is not necessary for me at this time, I have put it off. Installing the system and becoming familar with how it works is much more important at this time, or lack of time. Welcome to the CLUB!!! Charles Libby >Someone toss me a preserver. > >Scott McClellan > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 11:24:57 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFB7337B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:24:55 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.web-1hosting.net (mail.web-1hosting.net [63.123.79.3]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1535143F3F for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:24:55 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from security@adtu.org) Received: from barney (spencer-117.iowaone.net [12.13.110.117]) by mail.web-1hosting.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 89A492D8087 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:24:53 -0600 (CST) Message-ID: <005401c2e4de$e20bec20$cea8a8c0@iowaone.net> From: "Aaron" To: Subject: vm_fault panic Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 13:22:23 -0600 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Hello, I'm not sure if I have enough information about the panics yet. They always seem to occur when I'm away from the computer. I have one of the mini ITX mb's with the C3 processor and Via chipset. The last panic that I caught was vm_fault: no fault entry. I read about "getting the most out of your panics", using "nm"and didn't really find anything in the kernel relating to the panic error. I was also using the generic kernel during this panic. I think it has something to do with my fdisk setup. However, this is just a wild guess. I'll be doing a cvsup, with no other processes running, and I'll get a kernel panic " syncing 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 " I have tried several different disk geometries. I matched it to the bios setting.... Still have the same troubles. The drive is nearly new. WDigital wd200bb I tried installing redhat on it as well, just to see how it would react. I get similar problems with errors about a problem with the main partion. I have 3 freebsd books and the web and I'm still not gaining ground on this problem. It is very intermittent. I thought I was on to something when I found the BIOS APM was on, but that didn't help either. Any help? I'll try and get more info on my panics. Thanks, Aaron To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 11:40:54 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D238737B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:40:52 -0800 (PST) Received: from hotmail.com (bay2-dav28.bay2.hotmail.com [65.54.246.85]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5871343F93 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:40:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from mreeves_freebsdlists@hotmail.com) Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 11:40:52 -0800 X-Originating-IP: [64.241.196.2] From: "Maurice Reeves" To: "Aaron" , References: <005401c2e4de$e20bec20$cea8a8c0@iowaone.net> Subject: Re: vm_fault panic Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:40:49 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Message-ID: X-OriginalArrivalTime: 07 Mar 2003 19:40:52.0239 (UTC) FILETIME=[763EB1F0:01C2E4E1] Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Aaron, I can't help you with the specific error you're getting but I highly recommend the two article series from Michael Lucas about System Panics on www.onlamp.com: Article 1: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/03/21/Big_Scary_Daemons.html Article 2: http://www.onlamp.com/pub/a/bsd/2002/04/04/Big_Scary_Daemons.html They've helped me a lot with panics. hth, Maurice Reeves ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron" To: Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 2:22 PM Subject: vm_fault panic > Hello, > > I'm not sure if I have enough information about the panics yet. They always > seem to occur when I'm away from the computer. > I have one of the mini ITX mb's with the C3 processor and Via chipset. > The last panic that I caught was vm_fault: no fault entry. > I read about "getting the most out of your panics", using "nm"and didn't > really find anything in the kernel relating to the panic error. I was also > using the generic kernel during this panic. > I think it has something to do with my fdisk setup. However, this is just a > wild guess. > I'll be doing a cvsup, with no other processes running, and I'll get a > kernel panic " syncing 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 " > I have tried several different disk geometries. I matched it to the bios > setting.... Still have the same troubles. > The drive is nearly new. WDigital wd200bb > I tried installing redhat on it as well, just to see how it would react. I > get similar problems with errors about a problem with the main partion. > I have 3 freebsd books and the web and I'm still not gaining ground on this > problem. It is very intermittent. > I thought I was on to something when I found the BIOS APM was on, but that > didn't help either. > Any help? I'll try and get more info on my panics. > Thanks, > Aaron > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 12:12: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3549637B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:12:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp2.libero.it (smtp2.libero.it [193.70.192.52]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4D95E43F3F for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 12:12:04 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from y3v@libero.it) Received: from y3v (151.25.45.52) by smtp2.libero.it (6.7.015) id 3E48BA34009C57FA for freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.org; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:12:03 +0100 From: "y3v" To: Subject: No disks found! Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:14:17 +0100 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2910.0) Importance: Normal X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Can you tell me if Controller IDE Bus Master Intel 82371AB/EB PCI is supported by FreeBSD, please? I have just tried to install 5.0, but after boot, at sysinstall's prompt, when I go for Standard installation, he give me an error like No disks found! Please verify that your disk controller is being properly probed at boot time. See the Hardware Guide on the Documentation menu for clues on diagnosis this type of problem. At boot time he also find that my controller is "Intel PIIX4 ATA33 Controller"... Where is the problem? Please, help me... :( PS: I also tried to write " set hint.acpi.0.disabled="1" " in the middle of the boot, but I don't know what's the command to continue booting and if I give reboot, then the PC reboots and I lose the variable assignment... To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 14: 1:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 38DDF37B401; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:01:24 -0800 (PST) Received: from hestia.email.starband.net (smtp3.starband.net [148.78.247.24]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41A4743FAF; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:01:23 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from scottmcclellan@starband.net) Received: from mooeymachine (vsat-148-64-148-75.c005.g4.mrt.starband.net [148.64.148.75]) by hestia.email.starband.net (8.12.8/8.12.8) with ESMTP id h27M0x1q026963; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:01:17 -0500 From: "scott mcclellan" To: "'Nigel Soon'" , , Subject: A huge THANK YOU!!!!! Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 16:01:01 -0600 Message-ID: <000001c2e4f5$11adf9d0$4b944094@mooeymachine> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.2627 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 Importance: Normal Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Dear Nigel, Right off the bat, I want to thank you for (humiliating me) solving my problem. No I'm not humiliated, just ticked off that I hadn't thought of what I was doing wrong first. I'll be the first to admit that I'm one of those people who are too used to having the computer (Windows) do everything for me. Once upon a time (about 24 years ago) we had a TRS-80 and HAD to deal with DOS - how I long for those days again, because unfortunately I became Windows brainwashed. I had no inkling as to what an ISO image was, or what it was for, or how to use it. So yes, *cringe* I just burned the ISO image 'file' onto the CD. Amazing what can happen when you know what you're doing. Everything looks as if it is loading okay now. Oops, no not everything. It's telling me that it can't get 'compat4X' and 'port distributions' loaded because it has run out of room. Hmmm. I guess it's time for me to putter around some more, but I'm huge steps ahead of where I was 2 hours ago (and 3 days of banging my head). I don't mind puttering, heck I got my CD-ROM connected properly now (darn computer store techies) after reading through some of the FAQs and letters here. Yeah, it's time-consuming, but I can honestly say I feel like I've learned a great deal already - unfortunately, not about FreeBSD yet :) But hey, it all counts. Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed or slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice anything on the FreeBSD site or handbook. Nigel, Staples will not be happy with you - they lost a sale of about 50 floppies :) I was just about to head out when I got your e-mail. Again thank you, thank you, thank you. Time to use the rest of the handbook now and start solving the next onslaught of issues. And thanks to the rest that sent their thoughts, suggestions, and condolences :) Just knowing someone else out there was in the same boat at one time sometimes is a help. Best regards, Scott McClellan p.s. to whomever suggested burning at a slower speed, I did try that (albeit by 'burning' the file rather than 'opening' it), so needless to say - but I'll say it anyway - it didn't work, only slower :) To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 14:41:43 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 41B5F37B401; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:41:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.comcast.net (smtp.comcast.net [24.153.64.2]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9429443FB1; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 14:41:41 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gorefeend@comcast.net) Received: from yourkybtg65gxe (pcp02762918pcs.pthurn01.mi.comcast.net [68.83.207.22]) by mtaout04.icomcast.net (iPlanet Messaging Server 5.2 HotFix 1.12 (built Feb 13 2003)) with SMTP id <0HBE00H0VHPF0T@mtaout04.icomcast.net>; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:41:41 -0500 (EST) Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 17:38:58 -0500 From: Allen Kenner Subject: Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!! To: scott mcclellan , 'Nigel Soon' , freebsd-questions@FREEBSD.org, freebsd-newbies@FREEBSD.org Reply-To: Allen Kenner Message-id: <000901c2e4fa$581b3450$16cf5344@yourkybtg65gxe> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 Content-type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: <000001c2e4f5$11adf9d0$4b944094@mooeymachine> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Well this is tghe first time iv ever messaged this place, iv been a huge Free BSD fan for a long time, (well not that long because iv only had a computer for 3 years but i did learn fast) me personally, i have no problem with Windows, to me an OS is as good as the person with root :) lol. but honestly i like Windows, i also Like Linux, Free BSd and open BSd and BeOS, i mean i have respect for every OS because even though i dont know how to program i do understand how it works and to build ANY OS would be hard to me, im not that great at Free BSD in particular but i can use Linux and i do daily and i can use a command line and i know how to use shells and GUIs, i bought Free BSD power pack back when 4.0 was a bit new, i still read that book all the time, i can still say i love it though because i know how the system goes and i have a huge amount of respect for Free BSD and the team who makes it happen, i think its awesome (i dont mean to steal this post but i saw he was talking about his computer life and i thought hey what the hell i will to) im 20 years old and i go to college and work in a fast food restaraunt. anyway good job to everyone from the BSD teams if you see this. To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 17:45:29 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D202837B401; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:45:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-13.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EE4EB43F85; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 17:45:26 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h281jPTb003194; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 20:45:26 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E694B41.9020908@potentialtech.com> Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 20:45:37 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: scott mcclellan Cc: "'Nigel Soon'" , freebsd-questions@FREEBSD.org, freebsd-newbies@FREEBSD.org Subject: Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!! References: <000001c2e4f5$11adf9d0$4b944094@mooeymachine> In-Reply-To: <000001c2e4f5$11adf9d0$4b944094@mooeymachine> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org scott mcclellan wrote: > Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed or > slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice anything on the > FreeBSD site or handbook. Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that it's just _assumed_ that everybody knows. I've never seen a good explanation, anywhere of what an iso is and how it should be handled. Hell, some burning software makes it REALLY hard to be sure that your doing it right. The concept of "making it so easy anyone can do it" also make the people doing it ignorant of what they're actually doing. I don't like software designed that way. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 19:10:17 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C617F37B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:10:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (freefall.freebsd.org [216.136.204.21]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D280943FB1 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@FreeBSD.org) Received: from freefall.freebsd.org (sue@localhost [127.0.0.1]) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6) with ESMTP id h283A9NS050837 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from sue@freefall.freebsd.org) Received: (from sue@localhost) by freefall.freebsd.org (8.12.6/8.12.6/Submit) id h283A9NE050836 for freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:10:09 -0800 (PST) From: Sue Blake Message-Id: <200303080310.h283A9NE050836@freefall.freebsd.org> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: FreeBSD Newbies First Aid Kit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org FreeBSD-Newbies First Aid Kit (This is a regular posting to the FreeBSD-Newbies mailing list. It is also available at http://www.welearn.com.au/freebsd/newbies/) FreeBSD-Questions@FreeBSD.ORG is the place to send all questions about installing, configuring, running and using FreeBSD. All help requests are handled by FreeBSD-Questions, including newbies questions. FreeBSD-Newbies is different. We don't ask for help or answer how-to questions. It is a discussion forum for newbies. FreeBSD-Newbies provides a place for new FreeBSD users to meet and covers any of the activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes, boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support, and taking an active part in the FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing the same things that we do as newbies. One of the things we do together is learn more effective ways to find help when we need it. Here are some suggestions: When something doesn't work the way you expect 1. First look at the errata for your release of FreeBSD at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/releases/ for the latest information and security advisories. 2. Search the Handbook, FAQ, and mail archives at http://www.FreeBSD.ORG/search.html 3. If you still have a question or problem, collect the output of `uname -a' and of any relevant program(s) and email your question to FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. Mailing lists When you have a problem that you can't solve by yourself, there's only one support mailing list and that's FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG. FreeBSD-questions helps with installation and basic setup as well as more general and advanced questions. You don't have to actually join freebsd-questions before asking a question there. Replies to your question will normally be sent to you personally as well as to the list. Just make sure you have read and followed the guidelines for posting, because you might find them different to what you're used to. If you do subscribe to freebsd-questions you'll have the advantage of seeing all of the recent questions and their answers. Before you post to FreeBSD-questions, please read the guidelines at http://www.lemis.com/questions.html Many of the people who answer FreeBSD-questions are very knowledgeable, but they get frustrated when they get questions which are difficult to understand. http://www.lemis.com/email.html is worth reading too. If you're not sure that you can follow these guidelines, come back and ask the other newbies for help on how to post an effective question to the support mailing list. Maybe your question has been asked before. If you search the mailing list archives at http://www.freebsd.org/search.html first you might get the answer right away. It's always worth trying. Other mailing lists (http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/eresources.html#ERESOURCES-CHARTERS) cover specialised areas and many are more developer-oriented. You'll need to read their charters carefully before participating, but it's probably a good idea to ask on either -newbies or -questions for advice about where to post a more specialised question. FreeBSD-announce is a very low volume read-only list for occasional announcements, such as notice of new releases, and the Really Quick Newsletter. It's worth subscribing to FreeBSD-announce too. Manuals You'll always be expected to show that you have made some effort to use the available documentation before asking for help. That's not always as easy as it sounds! If you know what documentation you need but can't locate it, send a brief query to FreeBSD-questions. If you don't know what you need, always have trouble finding it, or can't make any sense of it when you do, ask some patient newbies to steer you in the right direction. Anyone interested in writing or reviewing documentation for FreeBSD is encouraged to join the FreeBSD Documentation Project. Details are at http://www.freebsd.org/docproj/docproj.html Other resources A resource list is available at http://www.freebsd.org/projects/newbies.html to help new and inexperienced FreeBSD users to find relevant information quickly. It includes books, on line documents and tutorials, and links to web pages that other newbies have found useful for learning. If you have a suggestion for good material to be included, please write to freebsd-newbies and tell us about it. But I have seen people asking questions here! It is quite common for people to send the wrong kind of post to a mailing list. Because we're newbies it'll certainly happen here from time to time. The best thing to do if you see a message that doesn't belong on a list is to ignore it. There's always someone around whose job it is to sort these problems out privately. The posts to the lists go straight through, whatever their content. It is going to be confusing for a little while because we're all newbies so we all make mistakes. That's OK. One thing we're going to see a fair bit is people posting questions, believing they're doing the right thing by posting here as newbies, not realising how it works. If someone answers those questions the situation will snowball. There's nothing wrong with helping someone to redirect their question to freebsd-questions, but please do so gently. There's nothing wrong with the occasional mistake either. So all questions, requests for help, etc still go to freebsd-questions as usual. Ours is more of a discussion group, a place where newbies can relax with other newbies and focus more on our successes than on our temporary imperfection. We can talk about things here that are not allowed on freebsd-questions. We're also a bit freer to make the mistakes that we need to make in order to learn. _________________________________________________________________ To Subscribe to FreeBSD-Newbies: Send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "subscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message. Mail sent to freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org appears on the mailing list. _________________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 19:35:26 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 170D037B405 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:35:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mxbackup.bgeek.com (h-66-166-37-75.CHCGILGM.covad.net [66.166.37.75]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DBB2643F85 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 19:35:21 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from steve@bgeek.com) Received: (qmail 85870 invoked by uid 89); 8 Mar 2003 03:46:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO web1) (steve@mail.bgeek.com@66.166.37.78) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 03:46:08 -0000 Message-ID: <00cd01c2e524$42bab1b0$7b00a8c0@iislogs.com> From: "Steve Schofield" To: References: <000001c2e4f5$11adf9d0$4b944094@mooeymachine> <000901c2e4fa$581b3450$16cf5344@yourkybtg65gxe> Subject: Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!! Date: Fri, 7 Mar 2003 22:39:01 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.3718.0 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.3718.0 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org i've never gotten any emails to work on these lists but have watched as others some how get it to work. So if this email gets through, I'm loving my BSD adventure coming from the MS planet. *----------------------------------------* * Steve Schofield * steve@bgeek.com * * Bgeek'in since 1996 * http://www.bgeek.com *----------------------------------------* ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allen Kenner" To: "scott mcclellan" ; "'Nigel Soon'" ; ; Sent: Friday, March 07, 2003 5:38 PM Subject: Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!! > Well this is tghe first time iv ever messaged this place, iv been a huge > Free BSD fan for a long time, (well not that long because iv only had a > computer for 3 years but i did learn fast) me personally, i have no problem > with Windows, to me an OS is as good as the person with root :) lol. but > honestly i like Windows, i also Like Linux, Free BSd and open BSd and BeOS, > i mean i have respect for every OS because even though i dont know how to > program i do understand how it works and to build ANY OS would be hard to > me, im not that great at Free BSD in particular but i can use Linux and i do > daily and i can use a command line and i know how to use shells and GUIs, i > bought Free BSD power pack back when 4.0 was a bit new, i still read that > book all the time, i can still say i love it though because i know how the > system goes and i have a huge amount of respect for Free BSD and the team > who makes it happen, i think its awesome (i dont mean to steal this post but > i saw he was talking about his computer life and i thought hey what the hell > i will to) im 20 years old and i go to college and work in a fast food > restaraunt. anyway good job to everyone from the BSD teams if you see this. > > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org > with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Fri Mar 7 21: 7:18 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 35CE537B401 for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:07:17 -0800 (PST) Received: from swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net (swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net [207.217.120.123]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94D6743F3F for ; Fri, 7 Mar 2003 21:07:16 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from slumos@unlv.edu) Received: from user144.net118.lv.sprint-hsd.net ([208.13.137.144] helo=post-office.nevada.edu) by swan.mail.pas.earthlink.net with esmtp (Exim 3.33 #1) id 18rWYF-00041t-00 for newbies@freebsd.org; Fri, 07 Mar 2003 21:07:15 -0800 From: slumos@unlv.edu To: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: minimal work 'make floppies' X-Mailer: MH-E 7.0; nmh 1.0.4; Emacs 20.7 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2003 21:06:46 -0800 Message-Id: Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org What's the minimum stuff needed to be able to make custom install floppies? Must I *really* make release first? I was just planning to do a net install anyway. If so, must I *really* do a checkout, make release, modify something, make rerelease and then make floppies, as release(7) and the Makefile seem to imply, or can I just use the /usr/src tree that I already have on a different host? I'm using 4.7-RELEASE. Steve To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 8 2:44: 5 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 646EC37B401 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 02:44:04 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.gmx.net (mail.gmx.de [213.165.65.60]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 334A543F93 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 02:44:03 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from silk_worm@gmx.net) Received: (qmail 8201 invoked by uid 0); 8 Mar 2003 10:43:59 -0000 Received: from pD9527D2E.dip.t-dialin.net (HELO ?192.168.0.6?) (217.82.125.46) by mail.gmx.net (mp004-rz3) with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 10:43:59 -0000 Subject: [OTRe: Saying hello ... From: Matthias Szupryczynski Reply-To: silk_worm@gmx.net To: freebsd-newbies@FREEBSD.org In-Reply-To: <20030304232834.GA6878@gothmog.gr> References: <1046707126.591.83.camel@arwen.lindenstrasse> <20030304232834.GA6878@gothmog.gr> Content-Type: text/plain Organization: Message-Id: <1047120169.576.4.camel@arwen.lindenstrasse> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Ximian Evolution 1.2.2 Date: 08 Mar 2003 11:42:49 +0100 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Wed, 2003-03-05 at 00:28, Giorgos Keramidas wrote: > Glad to have you on the list, Matthias. Was it fun in Melbourne? > It's one of the cities I'd definitely like to visit some day. One word: fantastic. If you ever have the chance to go there, do it. I for my part had the best year of my life. Cheers Matt To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 8 4: 4:45 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1967737B401; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 04:04:44 -0800 (PST) Received: from webmail.dds.nl (webmail.dds.nl [213.196.1.125]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4BF2943FA3; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 04:04:43 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from akruijff@dds.nl) Received: by webmail.dds.nl (Postfix, from userid 33) id BDA763FB0; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 13:02:00 +0100 (CET) Received: from 213.10.151.186 ( [213.10.151.186]) as user akruijff@imap.dds.nl by webmail.dds.nl with HTTP; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 13:02:00 +0100 Message-ID: <1047124920.3e69dbb898643@webmail.dds.nl> Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 13:02:00 +0100 From: akruijff@dds.nl To: Bill Moran Cc: scott mcclellan , 'Nigel Soon' , freebsd-questions@FREEBSD.org, freebsd-newbies@FREEBSD.org Subject: Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!! References: <000001c2e4f5$11adf9d0$4b944094@mooeymachine> <3E694B41.9020908@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <3E694B41.9020908@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit User-Agent: Internet Messaging Program (IMP) 3.1 Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org Citeren Bill Moran : > scott mcclellan wrote: > > Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed > or > > slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice anything on > the > > FreeBSD site or handbook. > > Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that it's just > _assumed_ that everybody knows. I've never seen a good > explanation, > anywhere of what an iso is and how it should be handled. If you mean making your own iso image then have a look at "Making Customized Bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies". As to buring it. I use the same approce as the author of this. I use a Windows computer. :o Alex To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 8 7: 0:55 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C328937B401; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:00:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (pa-plum1b-13.pit.adelphia.net [24.53.161.13]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C616343FCB; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:00:52 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Received: from potentialtech.com (working [172.16.0.95]) by pa-plum1b-166.pit.adelphia.net (8.12.7/8.12.7) with ESMTP id h28F0nTb003572; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 10:00:50 -0500 (EST) (envelope-from wmoran@potentialtech.com) Message-ID: <3E6A05B4.5000104@potentialtech.com> Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2003 10:01:08 -0500 From: Bill Moran User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; FreeBSD i386; en-US; rv:1.2.1) Gecko/20030301 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: akruijff@dds.nl Cc: scott mcclellan , "'Nigel Soon'" , freebsd-questions@FREEBSD.org, freebsd-newbies@FREEBSD.org Subject: Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!! References: <000001c2e4f5$11adf9d0$4b944094@mooeymachine> <3E694B41.9020908@potentialtech.com> <1047124920.3e69dbb898643@webmail.dds.nl> In-Reply-To: <1047124920.3e69dbb898643@webmail.dds.nl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org akruijff@dds.nl wrote: > Citeren Bill Moran : > >>scott mcclellan wrote: >> >>>Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed or >>>slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice anything on the >>>FreeBSD site or handbook. >> >>Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that it's just >>_assumed_ that everybody knows. I've never seen a good explanation, >>anywhere of what an iso is and how it should be handled. > > If you mean making your own iso image then have a look at "Making > Customized Bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies". As to buring it. I use the > same approce as the author of this. I use a Windows computer. :o That's my point. If you want to know how to create your own CDs and build bootable CDs and things like that, there are articles everywhere. However, if you're _very_ new and just want to burn an iso that you've downloaded, there's no basic introduction to what you're doing and how to go about it. I need to do some writing. -- Bill Moran Potential Technologies http://www.potentialtech.com To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 8 7:10: 6 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 08C8137B401 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:10:05 -0800 (PST) Received: from iota.root-servers.ch (iota.root-servers.ch [193.41.193.195]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 61DBF43FB1 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 07:10:01 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch) Received: (qmail 31259 invoked from network); 8 Mar 2003 15:09:59 -0000 Received: from dclient80-218-105-144.hispeed.ch (HELO gaxp1800.root.li) (80.218.105.144) by 0 with SMTP; 8 Mar 2003 15:09:59 -0000 Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 16:09:53 +0100 From: Gabriel Ambuehl X-Mailer: The Bat! (v1.62i) Educational Reply-To: gabriel_ambuehl@buz.ch Organization: BUZ Internet Services X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Message-ID: <28265461984.20030308160953@buz.ch> To: Bill Moran Cc: newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re[2]: A huge THANK YOU!!!!! In-Reply-To: <3E6A05B4.5000104@potentialtech.com> References: <000001c2e4f5$11adf9d0$4b944094@mooeymachine> <3E694B41.9020908@potentialtech.com> <1047124920.3e69dbb898643@webmail.dds.nl> <3E6A05B4.5000104@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hello Bill, Saturday, March 8, 2003, 4:01:08 PM, you wrote: > That's my point. If you want to know how to create your own CDs and > build bootable CDs and things like that, there are articles everywhere. > However, if you're _very_ new and just want to burn an iso that you've > downloaded, there's no basic introduction to what you're doing and how > to go about it. > I need to do some writing. Or just a link to ahead.com for a Nero Demo Download for the Windows users. That thing needs about 5 clicks to burn the ISOs. I can furnish screenshots if anyone wants them... Best regards, Gabriel -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGP 6.0.2i iQEVAwUBPmn5uMZa2WpymlDxAQH5pgf+OI8J2s8GOAtge+vNF63NQirqVQU1+xGc jsWyw54BMOYrqEefgttRbizGs/mfoTdVRYfHKZ300Y/xuQ4SMWffzEPMAcvs9rpU gnrh0eRPT5FTpW2omTz7uMPjAoyzy9aeoyWyFBH+WmG3OdFGsp6QeczZR4RuaZqR OsCm/f7CejtjbWHfefSzvQIspbmP+oJli4Gfne2htMrRK1IEJastupgOevRb01V4 j2/BGAulLDXpJEPND28auV32WNMQJ3xc1Nb7xP9TUSi4GFvFLwDPZ4SFkl+IRcpV TgxiC+opH6wsivohrLr12aomhZ2/uMSbZn9etjHAPh9huAy+vBkDlg== =KXqK -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 8 14:27:36 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2A88337B404; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:27:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from rutger.owt.com (rutger.owt.com [204.118.6.16]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CFEF443F75; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:27:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from kstewart@owt.com) Received: from topaz-out (owt-207-41-94-233.owt.com [207.41.94.233]) by rutger.owt.com (8.11.6/8.9.3) with ESMTP id h28MRKp06172; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:27:21 -0800 From: Kent Stewart To: Bill Moran , akruijff@dds.nl Subject: Re: A huge THANK YOU!!!!! Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:27:19 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.5 Cc: scott mcclellan , "'Nigel Soon'" , freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG References: <000001c2e4f5$11adf9d0$4b944094@mooeymachine> <1047124920.3e69dbb898643@webmail.dds.nl> <3E6A05B4.5000104@potentialtech.com> In-Reply-To: <3E6A05B4.5000104@potentialtech.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200303081427.19846.kstewart@owt.com> Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org On Saturday 08 March 2003 07:01 am, Bill Moran wrote: > akruijff@dds.nl wrote: > > Citeren Bill Moran : > >>scott mcclellan wrote: > >>>Was there anything about ISO imaging anywhere that I just missed > >>> or slipped over without actually reading? I didn't notice > >>> anything on the FreeBSD site or handbook. > >> > >>Unfortunately, I think this is one of those things that it's just > >>_assumed_ that everybody knows. I've never seen a good > >> explanation, anywhere of what an iso is and how it should be > >> handled. > > > > If you mean making your own iso image then have a look at "Making > > Customized Bootable FreeBSD CD/Floppies". As to buring it. I use > > the same approce as the author of this. I use a Windows computer. > > :o > > That's my point. If you want to know how to create your own CDs and > build bootable CDs and things like that, there are articles > everywhere. However, if you're _very_ new and just want to burn an > iso that you've downloaded, there's no basic introduction to what > you're doing and how to go about it. > I'm not sure what is missing here. All of the cdburners that I am aware of have the ability to burn iso's. I went through one time and listed where the capability was found on the Windows based ones that I had used. I have standardized on Nero 5.5 and finding how to burn an iso image with Nero is one of the more dificult. You almost have to read the FAQ on their web page. On the rest of the Windows burners, you can almost double click the *.iso file and it will bring your CD-ROM burner program up in the burn-image mode. The man page for burncd in the examples at the bottom tells you that the file written to a data CD is an iso image. It even points you to mkisofs, which is used to make the iso image. > I need to do some writing. One part that I found to be lite was what an iso image was. It is like most of the other extensions on computers. You either recognize them or you have problems. So, where would you write something that would bootstrap new users to where they understand this new extension. The terms ISO9660, Joliet, Rock Ridge, and etc also don't mean much to most people. They are also going to see things like ".c", ".o", and etc. but we don't tell them what they are for. You almost need a FAQ version of a book like "Computer File Extensions for Dummies". Some people I know have problems buying one of these Dummy books but they are about the only book series I know of that will take a newbie to where they can understand the terminology of the subject. Then, they can read a more technical book. Kent -- Kent Stewart Richland, WA http://users.owt.com/kstewart/index.html To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message From owner-freebsd-newbies Sat Mar 8 14:58:33 2003 Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 596B037B404 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:58:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl (pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl [213.25.59.42]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B4B43FD7 for ; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 14:58:29 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from root@pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl) Received: (from root@localhost) by pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl (8.11.6/8.11.6) id h28MwUG08304; Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:58:30 +0100 Date: Sat, 8 Mar 2003 23:58:30 +0100 Message-Id: <200303082258.h28MwUG08304@pa42.bialystok.sdi.tpnet.pl> To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: elektroniczny miesiecznik polskiego eksportera - 1 wydanie From: AMPE Sender: owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Precedence: bulk List-ID: List-Archive: (Web Archive) List-Help: (List Instructions) List-Subscribe: List-Unsubscribe: X-Loop: FreeBSD.org www.Eksportuj.pl skierowany jest do wszystkich tych, ktorzy na co dzien zajmuja sie problematyka wspolpracy handlowej z zagranica. Ma wskazywac Panstwu potencjalne mozliwosci nawiazania korzystnych kontaktow w sferze handlu i inwestycji oraz kierowac Panstwa uwage glownie w strone regionow i rynkow mniej popularnych w Polsce, czy na temat wspolpracy z ktorymi informacja jest znikoma lub trudno dostepna. Swoja tematyka obejmie zagadnienia pomocne przede wszystkim w eksporcie na rynki Dalekiego i Bliskiego Wschodu, Afryki czy Ameryki Јacinskiej. Najnowszy numer jak i kolejne dostepne jedynie w prenumeracie. (format pdf.) Prenumerata jest bezplatna Jednak ............ .........................maja do niej dostep jedynie osoby subskrybujace nowosci w serwisie internetowym Agencji Marketingu i Promocji Eksportu AMPE. Jak zamowic prenumerate???.......Jest to bardzo proste, wystarczy zamowic subskrypcje kliknac na link podany ponizej, a otrzymacie Panstwo e-mailem dostep do pierwszego wydania lutowego. link: http://www.ampe.pl/mailing_system.php?action=confirm&email=freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org&r=2b31c0ca&c=8ddc576a To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-newbies" in the body of the message