From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Fri Jul 4 17:42:27 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2AAB5106566C for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:42:27 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C34818FC0A for ; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 17:42:26 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) Received: from TEDSDSK (nat-rtr.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.197.130]) by mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com (8.13.8/8.13.8) with SMTP id m64HgNEE079521; Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:42:24 -0700 (PDT) (envelope-from tedm@toybox.placo.com) From: "Ted Mittelstaedt" To: "Chad Perrin" , "FreeBSD Mailing List" Date: Fri, 4 Jul 2008 10:43:27 -0700 Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook IMO, Build 9.0.6604 (9.0.2911.0) X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1914 Importance: Normal In-reply-to: <20080701050444.GA2142@kokopelli.hydra> X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.freebsd-corp-net-guide.com [65.75.192.90]); Fri, 04 Jul 2008 10:42:24 -0700 (PDT) Cc: Subject: RE: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 04 Jul 2008 17:42:27 -0000 > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org > [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@freebsd.org]On Behalf Of Chad Perrin > Sent: Monday, June 30, 2008 10:05 PM > To: FreeBSD Mailing List > Subject: Re: OT: anyone been crazy enough to mirror wikipedia? > > > On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 05:15:39PM -0400, DAve wrote: > > Steve Franks wrote: > > >So call me a sociopath, but times are a bit scary. I'd like to do the > > >2000's equivalent of the 1960's bomb shelter, and have my very own > > >snapshot in case of major local/regional internet disruption, etc. > > > > > >What would be the best way to go about this. I see with <1T words, it > > >appears doable on current technology. Maybe they should offer a > > >snapshot on DVDs or disk as a fundraiser? I'd drop $300 for some sort > > >of officially licenced copy, I suspect there are other freaks that > > >would too... > > > > When the world gets that bad, Wikipedia is the least of my concerns, > > slightly ahead of who is winning American Idol. If it comes to > the point > > the internet goes down for a long period of time, that $300 is better > > spent on a garden. > > > > Just my thoughts. > > Actually . . . if things get that bad, you're going to need some > firepower to protect your garden (and everything else you don't want > taken from you by force). To properly protect a garden, you'd need to > make it a community farm, with community members who have and will use > firearms to protect it (and your Wikipedia mirror). > > Of course, I greatly admire the impulse to protect the collected > knowledge of Wikipedia from disaster. It's also practical -- because it > contains a lot of information that might be of use (including good > subsistence gardening information, for those of us who don't have > naturally green thumbs). > If the crash comes and you don't have 4 - 5 years of experience running a garden on your land, plus your own well, your gonna starve. Veggies are very particular as to the kind of soil they like, and the light and water they get. And it takes several years of trying different ones to figure out the ones that do best in your soil. And most modern veggies are hybrids and the seed is genetically engineered, and patented. Many varieties are, in fact, sterile. Many others require irrigation to produce sizable yields. To put in a "heritage" garden that will produce given the normally occurring rainfall in your area takes someone with many years of experience in your area growing gardens. By the time you would be able to get one going from info in wikipedia, you would have died of starvation. Ted