From owner-freebsd-amd64@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Oct 12 01:17:30 2006 Return-Path: X-Original-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Delivered-To: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3FDB916A40F for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:17:30 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from elvis.mu.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EEED443D5D for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:17:29 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from kris@obsecurity.org) Received: from obsecurity.dyndns.org (elvis.mu.org [192.203.228.196]) by elvis.mu.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D4B721A3C20; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 18:17:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by obsecurity.dyndns.org (Postfix, from userid 1000) id F074A512BD; Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:17:28 -0400 (EDT) Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2006 21:17:28 -0400 From: Kris Kennaway To: Igor Mozolevsky Message-ID: <20061012011728.GA27584@xor.obsecurity.org> References: <20061011225348.GA16838@everest.sosdg.org> <20061011232316.GA2751@troutmask.apl.washington.edu> <452D9305.5060901@sosdg.org> <40E10B8D-B3DB-4D53-9195-561B9DE50135@hybrid-lab.co.uk> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <40E10B8D-B3DB-4D53-9195-561B9DE50135@hybrid-lab.co.uk> User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.2i Cc: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org Subject: Re: wine still unusable? X-BeenThere: freebsd-amd64@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Porting FreeBSD to the AMD64 platform List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 01:17:30 -0000 --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 12, 2006 at 02:07:48AM +0100, Igor Mozolevsky wrote: > I do like the FreeBSD community approach to bug reports - fix it =20 > yourself and send us a patch! Having thought that PR stood for =20 > Problem Report, it is becoming clear that it actually stands for =20 > Problem Resolution!.. The PR database is primarily intended for reports of bugs in FreeBSD, not "new features I'd like to see that will take someone dozens or hundreds of hours to implement". While there is a "wish-list" category in GNATS, a realistic submitter will not expect action on such items just because they submit a PR. Finally, yes, FreeBSD is a community project, not a mysterious closed system where you submit your requests into the black box of developers and out pops your answer as if by magic. So it's not at all unreasonable that submitters of difficult or unrealistic requests be invited to participate in the process of solving them. Kris --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (FreeBSD) iD8DBQFFLZeoWry0BWjoQKURAoOVAKCajW1RGgMf/GKrV8WqoPNEtNEBUwCeK6G1 zK4gHckUaXoYNffNgezV0XQ= =bR8y -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --C7zPtVaVf+AK4Oqc--