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Date:      Fri, 12 Jun 2020 15:12:20 -0400
From:      Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com>
To:        Kurt Hackenberg <kh@panix.com>
Cc:        FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: freebsd vs. netbsd
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On Fri, Jun 12, 2020 at 2:58 PM Kurt Hackenberg <kh@panix.com> wrote:

> On 2020-06-12 02:14, Polytropon wrote:
>
> >> But it's often done by redefining the ASCII characters carriage return
> >> and line feed. Originally they meant, respectively, move the print head
> >> to the left margin, and roll the paper up a line.
> >
> > Erm... no. The carriage return returns the _carriage_ to the
> > first position (here: to the right), that's why it is called
> > carriage return and not print head return. :-)
> >
> > On older electrical typewriters, you will see...
> Electric typewriters didn't use ASCII.
>

But they did have carriage return and line feeds...  the two are different
the best way to understand that is on manual typewriters the  "return bar"
(the thing with a big handle on it) [
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Yw4qOagWL._AC_UL160_.jpg
] would first do a carriage return and if you pushed it hard enough (hard
not to) it would also do a line feed.   You could also do a line feed by
just turning the nob also.

So it has nothing to do with character encoding!
-- 
Aryeh M. Friedman, Lead Developer, http://www.PetiteCloud.org



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