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Date:      Tue, 15 Feb 2005 05:45:12 -0800
From:      Vonleigh Simmons <nospam@illusionart.com>
To:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Instead of freebsd.com, why not... 
Message-ID:  <D07D6898-7F57-11D9-B357-000D93C7878E@illusionart.com>
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>> no they did and could point out specific problems and likely
>> intentional changes.
>
> Where can I see a list of these?

	Here are just a few:

<http://www.positioniseverything.net/ie-primer.html>;

	A very basic one is the box model problem. Basically if you define the 
width of a box to be 100 pixels, and you put in a padding of 10 pixels, 
the total box size should be 120 pixels (100 pixels plus the 10 pixels 
on each side for the padding). However, explorer decided to take the 
width as the total size, so in the above example the box is only 100 
pixels wide instead of 120.

	It would be ridiculously easy to fix it and behave as the standard 
dictates, however, they refuse to do it. This is a major problem and 
can completely destroy a design.

	Another major thing that would be easy to fix is the handling of 
transparent pings. This would allow great versatility in site design, 
and many times I would've loved to use it. What Explorer does however 
is not just disregard the transparency, which would make it workable, 
but puts a light blue background behind the whole transparent image; a 
behaviour that makes no sense. Not only that, using proprietary IE code 
is the only way to make transparency work, and it doesn't work with 
repeating images (so the code is there to make it work, they just make 
you use IE only code for it to work).

	And these are just a few examples, on every single site I've designed 
I've run into new issues. Explorer is the worst browser when it comes 
to standards compliance, I have spent too many hours hacking up my code 
that works beautifully in every other browser, just so it works in 
Explorer.


> It did better than any other overall.

	Next time STFW (really, google turns up many pages describing problems 
web designers have with IE), or at least don't talk about something you 
have no idea about.


Vonleigh Simmons
<http://illusionart.com/>;



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