From owner-freebsd-arm@freebsd.org Wed Feb 26 21:30:07 2020 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arm@mailman.nyi.freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2610:1c1:1:606c::19:1]) by mailman.nyi.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7319E2466AD for ; Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:30:07 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (br1.CN84in.dnsmgr.net [69.59.192.140]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client did not present a certificate) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 48STV56xCtz3L8n; Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:30:05 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: from gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3) with ESMTP id 01QLTvdW004566; Wed, 26 Feb 2020 13:29:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net) Received: (from freebsd-rwg@localhost) by gndrsh.dnsmgr.net (8.13.3/8.13.3/Submit) id 01QLTvs3004565; Wed, 26 Feb 2020 13:29:57 -0800 (PST) (envelope-from freebsd-rwg) From: "Rodney W. Grimes" Message-Id: <202002262129.01QLTvs3004565@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net> Subject: Re: Showstoppers for RPI3 In-Reply-To: To: Ian Lepore Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 13:29:57 -0800 (PST) CC: bob prohaska , freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL121h (25)] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Rspamd-Queue-Id: 48STV56xCtz3L8n X-Spamd-Bar: + Authentication-Results: mx1.freebsd.org; dkim=none; dmarc=none; spf=none (mx1.freebsd.org: domain of freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net has no SPF policy when checking 69.59.192.140) smtp.mailfrom=freebsd-rwg@gndrsh.dnsmgr.net X-Spamd-Result: default: False [1.33 / 15.00]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; RCPT_COUNT_THREE(0.00)[3]; TO_DN_SOME(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.10)[text/plain]; RCVD_TLS_LAST(0.00)[]; DMARC_NA(0.00)[dnsmgr.net]; AUTH_NA(1.00)[]; NEURAL_SPAM_MEDIUM(0.48)[0.478,0]; NEURAL_HAM_LONG(-0.08)[-0.083,0]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_SOME(0.00)[]; R_SPF_NA(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; R_DKIM_NA(0.00)[]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+]; ASN(0.00)[asn:13868, ipnet:69.59.192.0/19, country:US]; MID_RHS_MATCH_FROM(0.00)[]; IP_SCORE(0.03)[ip: (0.13), ipnet: 69.59.192.0/19(0.07), asn: 13868(0.03), country: US(-0.05)]; RCVD_COUNT_TWO(0.00)[2] X-BeenThere: freebsd-arm@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Porting FreeBSD to ARM processors." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2020 21:30:07 -0000 > On Wed, 2020-02-26 at 08:45 -0800, bob prohaska wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 08:33:24AM -0700, Ian Lepore wrote: > > > > > > If you want to run freebsd on arm hardware, try using hardware that > > > people are actually working to support. If you must use crappy rpi > > > hardware, either run linux on it, or consider paying someone to do > > > the > > > freebsd support you need. > > > > How much money is involved? Personally I can't afford to hire > > somebody, > > but earmarked contributiions to the FreeBSD Foundation are feasible. > > > > What would be required to attract useful attention? > > > > Thanks for writing! > > > > bob prohaska > > I don't think earmarked contributions are allowed, at least not > something earmarked to a specific task or piece of work (as opposed to > something generic like "use these funds for advocacy"). If they were > allowed, a company could effectively use an earmarked contribution as a > way of hiring a contractor to write code, while writing off the money > paid to her as a charitable contribution to the foundation. The US laws are such that the way you do this is you create a project page "aarch64 on RPI*'s", and put a donate here button to help fund THIS project. Totally legal. It is also legal for a non-profit to go to a company and say "we are looking for funds to do A, would you be interested in making a contribution to help us to A?" Whats NOT legal is a company going to a 501(c)3 and saying: "I'll give you $X if you go do Y". > -- Ian -- Rod Grimes rgrimes@freebsd.org