Date: Wed, 01 Feb 2006 13:53:34 -0600 From: Kevin Kinsey <kdk@daleco.biz> To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Alvaro_J=2E_Gurdi=E1n=22?= <AJGurdian@lanoticia.com> Cc: FreeBSD-Questions Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: Re: Proper FreeBSD installation practices Message-ID: <43E111BE.7090401@daleco.biz> In-Reply-To: <382a16540283fbd71e3bea77dc4935b0@lanoticia.com> References: <c78f79e10feecb272db5305e541464ff@lanoticia.com> <20060131220131.GB38470@dan.emsphone.com> <92a0fa936ee007b04b74bf349f19b21a@lanoticia.com> <43DFF149.3050903@daleco.biz> <382a16540283fbd71e3bea77dc4935b0@lanoticia.com>
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Alvaro J. Gurdián wrote: > I looked at the sysinstall and pkg_add man files and noticed > that at least in pkg_add it was looking for updates at > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.0-release/ > Latest/. > I made my way over to that address and noticed indeed bind9-9.3.1 > was the newest available, then after some browsing I found > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/dns/ > where the was a bind9-9.3.2. > > So assumed that both pkg_add and sysinstall were looking up > the same location. > > I tried to tell sysinstall to search a different location: > sysinstall > _ftpPath=ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6- > stable/dns/ mediaSetFTP configPackages > > But it just ignored my input and used the same ftp address as it had > before. > > However with pkg_add I had a little further, after setting the > environment variable PACKAGEROOT to > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable/dns/ I > was able to type, pkg_add -r bind9-9.3.2, and successfully install. > Or at least so I thought. > > To make sure, I went to /var/db/pkg and saw bind9-9.3.2 listed. > > Unfortunately when I tried named -v, it replied: version > 9.3.1........what? How? > > By now now I am terrible confused. Keep in mind that FreeBSD has a "base system" which includes BIND. It is likely that your search path has "/usr/sbin" listed prior to "/usr/local/sbin" ... this is the default. Here is proof from my machine, your is probably similar: [1009] Wed 01.Feb.2006 13:38:41 [kadmin@archangel][~] # echo $PATH /sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin So, when you issue `named -v`, you are really saying `/usr/sbin/named -v`, and the "base system" named is answering correctly. Try `/usr/local/sbin/named -v`, and see if you get the response you expect. > > What is the difference between > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6.0-release/ > Latest/ > and > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/ports/i386/packages-6-stable > > I thought release was the newest version of stable, and therefore > these two directories should point to the same info. Or at least, > will they merge some time in the future? RELEASE is the last "officially RELEASED version" of -STABLE, but -STABLE continues in development, therefore, at any given time except the exact moment that a RELEASE is tagged, -STABLE is newer. -STABLE and RELEASE will never again "merge"; if you will, RELEASE "emerged" from -STABLE as of the date of the RELEASE and is only supported with security fixes and major bug fixes (if any) for a specified period of time. -STABLE will "continue on" until such time as FreeBSD 7 becomes STABLE ... ... have I made it difficult enough yet?? As far as ports/packages go, the "STABLE" ports/packages would be newer than those in 6.0-RELEASE, because 6.0-RELEASE was tagged and the packages built in November. > Also, I believe I actually installed bind9-9.3.2, if so where is it? > If not, how can I? > As I said above, it's under /usr/local/sbin. You can set named_program = "/usr/local/sbin/named" in /etc/rc.conf, and the system should use the port instead of the base system named. See /etc/defaults/rc.conf for more info. > There must be some logical aspect of FreeBSD that I do not > understand, because installing a package or a port has never been so > hard. > Well, the trick is that you installed a port which is a duplicate of base system functionality, and haven't yet told FreeBSD that you prefer something other than the base system's named(8). > Having to set environment variables every time I want to get > the newest version of a program should not be the standard > way to operate, I am sure it isn't. > You are quite right. Keeping the ports tree (/usr/ports) up to date using cvsup is something of a "standard way to operate". This, in conjuction with portupgrade or portmanager, helps keep packages/ports "current". See handbook chapter 20 for other tips on "the Cutting Edge." > > Thanks. > You're welcome. Kevin D. Kinsey -- Tart words make no friends; a spoonful of honey will catch more flies than a gallon of vinegar. -- Ben Franklin
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