Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:44:03 +0000 From: "Kep Woof" <kep.woof@gmail.com> To: "Bill Moran" <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> Cc: questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: New freebsd logo on freebsd.org Message-ID: <9c8168780605100744n62b20da1mfe065d9a6292f7a8@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <20060510101421.57a54656.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> References: <9c8168780605100342h7d73c0c7uc64b08da8ed64585@mail.gmail.com> <OFBFAAF909.8425B025-ON8025716A.003B1F41-8025716A.003B18B3@nominet.org.uk> <9c8168780605100649v428a1218u7ce8fda393a70f6f@mail.gmail.com> <20060510101421.57a54656.wmoran@collaborativefusion.com>
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Hi, On 5/10/06, Bill Moran <wmoran@collaborativefusion.com> wrote: > You're exactly right. Somebody other than you should take care of this. I'm trying to understand what has happened and why. I'm trying to take care of this, and you, with your accusations and vitriol are'nt helping. I want to understand the process by which the logo was chosen so I may influence future decisions. > This is everyone's fault but yours. If you'd been in the loop from the > start, this never would have happened. My goodness, why didn't we > consult you earlier ... you obviously have all the answers. Excuse me? Now this is clearly flame baiting. > This is free software man, if you don't like it, fix it > yourself. What is the procedure to fix a logo? A logo doesn't work the same as a piece of source code, which is why commiters shouldn't have been the only people with an opinion that counts. It's the users that use the software. We're an essential part of the community, we buy cd's, show our friends, retire windows boxes here and there. The logo is our badge, and anyone that's ever been to a convention knows that. > If you can't fix it, _ask_ someone else, or put up some > cash to pay someone who can. I can't help but think that cash has little to do with this. I'm sure between us we could raise a few thousand dollars for someone to design a proper logo, but i'm sure it's not as simple as that. > But quit whining. I'm not whining, I'm trying to understand. > You are a Troll. If you weren't a Troll, you'd have taken this to > chat@freebsd.org or advocacy@freebsd.org instead of staying on this > list. I'm not a troll. It seems like a rather convenient way to silence someone to me. Is my question advocacy related? I don't think so.=20 It has a much wider scope than that. > Go use Microsoft, they pay professional graphic artists big bucks to > design their logos and their marketing materials, and you fund that > with your Windows license fees. How is that related or helpful? > Or, _contribute_ something back to the wonderful free software > community other than a lengthy email thread of whining. I'm trying to, but it has to start somewhere. I'm trying to understand how the logo was chosen, and why. It would seem to have far greater ramifications than you think. kep
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