From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Sep 14 17:59:37 2008 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E00B1065673 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:59:37 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com [208.86.224.193]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 02B3A8FC14 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:59:36 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from beech@freebsd.org) Received: from stargate.alaskaparadise.com (129-78-237-24.gci.net [24.237.78.129]) by bsdevel.alaskaparadise.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5BA2E28E1431; Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:59:36 +0000 (UTC) From: Beech Rintoul To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 09:59:29 -0800 User-Agent: KMail/1.9.10 References: <656c2abe0809140034s283a134w9aa5d2e60f520e99@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <656c2abe0809140034s283a134w9aa5d2e60f520e99@mail.gmail.com> X-Face: jC2w\k*Q1\0DA2Q0Eh&BrP/Rt2M,^2O#R07VoT98m*>miQF9%Bi9vy`F6cPjwEe?m,)=?utf-8?q?2=0A=09X=3FM=5C=3AOE9QgZ?="xT3/n3,3MJ7N=Cfkmi%f(w^~X"SUxn>; 27NO; C+)g[7J`$G*SN>{<=?utf-8?q?O=3Bg7=7C=0A=09o=7D=265A=5D4?=@7D`=Eb@Zs1Ln814?]|k@'bG=.Ca"[|8+_.OsNAo8!#?4u MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-Id: <200809140959.32653.beech@freebsd.org> Cc: Art Vandelay Subject: Re: Being a shell provider - good business? X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list Reply-To: Beech Rintoul List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2008 17:59:37 -0000 On Saturday 13 September 2008, Art Vandelay said: > Hello. My friend thinks that being a shell provider for IRC bots > and bouncers is very good business. How do I convince him it's not? > > Sorry for going off-topic and cross-post, but I don't know who else > to ask. Ask him how he's going to deal with all the angry users when one of his script kiddie users gets the IP k-lined from all the irc servers. Or how he's going to deal with law enforcement after one of his accounts uses the shell for nefarious purposes. At the ISP I worked for we stopped offering shell accounts to all but our most trusted clients for those exact reasons. The only way I would even consider it would be to have a block of IPs and jail every user. Even then it's a legal and security minefield. Beech -- --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Beech Rintoul - FreeBSD Developer - beech@FreeBSD.org /"\ ASCII Ribbon Campaign | FreeBSD Since 4.x \ / - NO HTML/RTF in e-mail | http://people.freebsd.org/~beech X - NO Word docs in e-mail | Skype: akbeech / \ - http://www.FreeBSD.org/releases/7.0R/announce.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------