Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 14:21:15 -0700 From: Chad David <davidc@acns.ab.ca> To: Brady Montz <bradym@balestra.org> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: 4.4-STABLE crashes - suspects new ata-driver over wd-drivers Message-ID: <20011217142115.A45797@colnta.acns.ab.ca> In-Reply-To: <20011217161408.A31009@3docs.com>; from bradym@balestra.org on Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:14:08PM -0800 References: <20011207133314.A20037@3docs.com> <20011217161408.A31009@3docs.com>
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On Mon, Dec 17, 2001 at 04:14:08PM -0800, Brady Montz wrote: > > Here's an update ... > > I'm fairly certain there's a kernel bug at work here. Last night I rebooted > to linux (which is on the same disk), and ran batch compiles all > night long without any troubles. In comparision, I can't compile more than > an hour at a time with BSD 4.4 before it crashes. I still agree. My -current machines run find, and I refuse to run -stable on an SMP machine. > > I am running the latest 4.4-stable. The other day I went back to 4.4-release > and that didn't help. I've tried both with and without softupdates. The > crashes seem to happen most often when accessing stuff from all over > the filesystem, such as during a large "make clean", or most reliably, with > "portsdb -Uu". > > I am tiring of this. Someone else on this thread mentioned that > their 5.0 machine is doing fine. In what shape is that and how much effort > is it to move a 4.4 machine to 5.0? Unless you feel confident that you can deal with the problems that arise on -current, I wouldn't want to be the one to recommend that you change, but my personal experience has been that -stable is anything but stable on SMP machines. On UP machines I have no problems at all. The -current SMP machines here are all very stable. I don't track it daily, and I am careful to build a test box before I rebuild a box I care about, but generally I have been much happier with -current than with -stable (this year). As for the effort to upgrade, it depends on what the box is doing. I've only upgraded a few boxes in the last year or so, and found that it was fairly timing dependant, but in general I haven't had any real problems (read UPDATING). I have a little time this afternoon, so I'm going to see if I can figure something out. I'll throw -stable onto one of my SMP development machines and see if I can kill it. At least there I can debug it. A small plug: I've written a script that will rebuild an entire machine, from a cvsup -> mergemaster and reboot. It doesn't really address anything to do with this thread, but you might find it handy :) http://www.acns.ab.ca/projects/rebuild/rebuild.tar.gz -- Chad David davidc@acns.ab.ca ACNS Inc. Calgary, Alberta Canada To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-stable" in the body of the message
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