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Date:      Fri, 3 Nov 2000 11:54:39 -0600
From:      Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org>
To:        Bap <bap@a1.org.uk>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: named weirdness...
Message-ID:  <20001103115439.A16666@lerami.lerctr.org>
In-Reply-To: <200011031712.RAA02373@ns.a1.org.uk>; from bap@a1.org.uk on Fri, Nov 03, 2000 at 05:12:51PM %2B0000
References:  <20001103110341.A14660@lerami.lerctr.org> <200011031712.RAA02373@ns.a1.org.uk>

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* Bap <bap@a1.org.uk> [001103 11:14]:
> Should there only be one A recored per IP address, so that the reverse matches it?
> 
> If you want to alias ns-a to lerami you should
> ns-a	IN	CNAME	lerami.lerctr.org.
NO, you can't have NS records pointing to A's.  And both 
are in the reverse file:

$TTL 86400
;	$Id$ 
;
;	lerctr.org reverse address tables..

; 	SOA record for reverse address for lerctr.org
;
@		IN SOA lerami.lerctr.org. hostmaster.lerami.lerctr.org. (
			2000070600	; serial # (Aug 20, 1995, seq 0)
			10800	; refresh (three hours)
			3600	; retry  (one hour)
			1209600	; exipration (two weeks)
			86400	; minimum TTL (one day)
			)

;
;	name servers
;
		IN NS	ns-a.lerctr.org.
		IN NS	ns-a.cirr.com.
		IN NS	mainhost.cyberramp.net.
		IN NS	mailhost.cyberramp.net.

;
; Router
1               IN PTR fw.lerctr.org.
;
11		IN PTR lerami.lerctr.org.
11		IN PTR ns-a.lerctr.org.
11		IN PTR ns-a.lerctr.com.
11		IN PTR ns-a.lerctr.net.
12		IN PTR lerisis.lerctr.org.
13		IN PTR leramiga.lerctr.org.
14		IN PTR lerlaptop.lerctr.org.
;15		IN PTR squirtbox.lerctr.org.
16		IN PTR ler300.lerctr.org.
;;;
30		IN PTR	lj5.lerctr.org.
;;;;
45		IN PTR	lerbsd.lerctr.org.
45		IN PTR	ns-b.lerctr.org.
45		IN PTR	ns-b.lerctr.com.
45		IN PTR	ns-b.lerctr.net.
; bogons
100		IN PTR  fw.cheerco.com.
*		IN PTR unknown-host.lerctr.org.
> 
> 
> > No, there is another A record for ns-a.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > * Bap <bap@a1.org.uk> [001103 10:57]:
> > > Shouln't you have 
> > > 	IN	NS	lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > if it is SOA?
> > > 
> > > Bap.
> > > 
> > > > Looks like it just took 20+minutes, and not on the notify:
> > > > Nov  3 09:31:52 lerami named[828]: master zone "lerctr.org" (IN)
> > > > loaded (serial
> > > > 2000110302)
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > (lerctr.o
> > > > rg); 6 NS, 6 A
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Received NOTIFY answer from
> > > > 207.158.64.11 for
> > > >  "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Received NOTIFY answer from
> > > > 207.158.64.10 for
> > > >  "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Received NOTIFY answer from
> > > > 206.138.224.150 f
> > > > or "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Received NOTIFY answer from
> > > > 206.66.10.46 for
> > > > "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > [207.158.64.11].57862 for
> > > > "lerctr.org"
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > [207.158.64.11].57862
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > [207.158.64.10].44387 for
> > > > "lerctr.org"
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > [207.158.64.10].44387
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > [206.66.10.46].4003 for "l
> > > > erctr.org"
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > [206.66.10.46].4003
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > [206.138.224.150].2706 for
> > > >  "lerctr.org"
> > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > [206.138.224.150].2706
> > > > Nov  3 09:33:54 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > [192.67.63.1].2182 for "le
> > > > rctr.org"
> > > > Nov  3 09:33:54 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > [192.67.63.1].2182
> > > > Nov  3 09:51:42 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > [207.158.72.45].1038 for "
> > > > lerctr.org"
> > > > Nov  3 09:51:42 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > [207.158.72.45].1038
> > > > Nov  3 09:52:00 lerami named[828]: rcvd NOTIFY(lerctr.org, IN, SOA)
> > > > from [207.15
> > > > 8.72.45].1745
> > > > Nov  3 09:52:00 lerami named[828]: NOTIFY(SOA) for non-secondary name
> > > > (lerctr.or
> > > > g), from [207.158.72.45].1745
> > > > Nov  3 10:06:08 lerami named[828]: unapproved AXFR from
> > > > [208.184.13.196].1077 fo
> > > > r "lerctr.org" (acl)
> > > > Nov  3 10:06:20 lerami named[828]: unapproved AXFR from
> > > > [208.184.13.196].1078 fo
> > > > r "lerctr.org" (acl)
> > > > Nov  3 10:08:16 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > [207.136.8.252].4060 for "
> > > > lerctr.org"
> > > > Nov  3 10:08:16 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > [207.136.8.252].4060
> > > > $
> > > > * Larry Rosenman <ler@lerctr.org> [001103 09:48]:
> > > > > * Mark.Andrews@nominum.com <Mark.Andrews@nominum.com> [001103 08:17]:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ok, but it didn't seem to hear the notify from 207.158.72.11 (same
> > > > > > > net) and load it.  (8.2.2-P5 on UnixWare 7).  All the others
> > > > > > > (all 4 other 2ndary's). 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	All the log shows is named starting/reloading.
> > > > > Ok, I upped the soa serial:
> > > > > Nov  3 09:31:52 lerami named[828]: master zone "lerctr.org" (IN)
> > > > > loaded (serial
> > > > > 2000110302)
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > > (lerctr.o
> > > > > rg); 6 NS, 6 A
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Received NOTIFY answer from
> > > > > 207.158.64.11 for
> > > > >  "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Received NOTIFY answer from
> > > > > 207.158.64.10 for
> > > > >  "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Received NOTIFY answer from
> > > > > 206.138.224.150 f
> > > > > or "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:00 lerami named[828]: Received NOTIFY answer from
> > > > > 206.66.10.46 for
> > > > > "lerctr.org IN SOA"
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > > [207.158.64.11].57862 for
> > > > > "lerctr.org"
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > > [207.158.64.11].57862
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > > [207.158.64.10].44387 for
> > > > > "lerctr.org"
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > > [207.158.64.10].44387
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > > [206.66.10.46].4003 for "l
> > > > > erctr.org"
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > > [206.66.10.46].4003
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > > [206.138.224.150].2706 for
> > > > >  "lerctr.org"
> > > > > Nov  3 09:32:01 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > > [206.138.224.150].2706
> > > > > Nov  3 09:33:54 lerami named[828]: approved AXFR from
> > > > > [192.67.63.1].2182 for "le
> > > > > rctr.org"
> > > > > Nov  3 09:33:54 lerami named[828]: zone transfer (AXFR) of
> > > > > "lerctr.org" (IN) to
> > > > > [192.67.63.1].2182
> > > > > $
> > > > > 
> > > > > Nov  2 13:35:58 lerbsd named[104]: starting.  named 8.2.3-T6B Thu Nov  2 12:14:13 CST 2000 	ler@lerbsd.lerctr.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named
> > > > > Nov  2 13:35:58 lerbsd named[104]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024)
> > > > > Nov  2 13:35:58 lerbsd named[105]: Ready to answer queries.
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:14 lerbsd named[105]: named shutting down
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:14 lerbsd named[105]: USAGE 973243514 973193758 CPU=0.424867u/0.19119s CHILDCPU=0u/0s
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:14 lerbsd named[105]: NSTATS 973243514 973193758 A=491 PTR=274 MX=33 AAAA=102 ANY=21
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:14 lerbsd named[105]: XSTATS 973243514 973193758 RR=118 RNXD=27 RFwdR=71 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=6 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=44 SAns=917 SFwdQ=45 SDupQ=10 SErr=0 RQ=921 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=45 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0 SFwdR=71 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=311 SNXD=74 RUQ=0 RURQ=0 RUXFR=0 RUUpd=0
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9515]: starting.  named 8.2.3-T6B Thu Nov  2 12:14:13 CST 2000 	ler@lerbsd.lerctr.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9515]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9515]: hint zone "" (IN) loaded (serial 0)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9515]: master zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" (IN) loaded (serial 20001015)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9515]: master zone "0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.INT" (IN) loaded (serial 20001015)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9515]: slave zone "lerctr.org" (IN) loaded (serial 2000110100)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9515]: listening on [207.158.72.45].53 (ep0)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9515]: listening on [127.0.0.1].53 (lo0)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9515]: Forwarding source address is [0.0.0.0].1722
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:15 lerbsd named[9516]: Ready to answer queries.
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:28 lerbsd named[9516]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA 2000110100" (lerctr.org); 1 NS, 1 A
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:29 lerbsd named[9516]: suppressing duplicate notify ("lerctr.org" IN SOA)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:25:38 lerbsd named[9516]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA 2000110100" (lerctr.org); 6 NS, 6 A
> > > > > Nov  3 03:33:34 lerbsd named[9516]: reconfiguring nameserver
> > > > > Nov  3 03:33:34 lerbsd named[9516]: Forwarding source address is [0.0.0.0].1744
> > > > > Nov  3 03:33:34 lerbsd named[9516]: Ready to answer queries.
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:49 lerbsd named[9516]: named shutting down
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:49 lerbsd named[9516]: USAGE 973244149 973243515 CPU=0.01449u/0.02898s CHILDCPU=0u/0s
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:49 lerbsd named[9516]: NSTATS 973244149 973243515 A=12 PTR=5 AAAA=4
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:49 lerbsd named[9516]: XSTATS 973244149 973243515 RR=23 RNXD=0 RFwdR=10 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=7 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=13 SAns=22 SFwdQ=1 SDupQ=0 SErr=0 RQ=21 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=1 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0 SFwdR=10 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=5 SNXD=0 RUQ=0 RURQ=0 RUXFR=0 RUUpd=0
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: starting.  named 8.2.3-T6B Thu Nov  2 12:14:13 CST 2000 	ler@lerbsd.lerctr.org:/usr/obj/usr/src/usr.sbin/named
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: limit files set to fdlimit (1024)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: hint zone "" (IN) loaded (serial 0)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: master zone "0.0.127.IN-ADDR.ARPA" (IN) loaded (serial 20001015)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: master zone "0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.IP6.INT" (IN) loaded (serial 20001015)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: slave zone "lerctr.org" (IN) loaded (serial 2000110100)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: listening on [207.158.72.45].53 (ep0)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: listening on [127.0.0.1].53 (lo0)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: Forwarding source address is [0.0.0.0].1745
> > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: Ready to answer queries.
> > > > > Nov  3 03:36:01 lerbsd named[9614]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA 2000110100" (lerctr.org); 1 NS, 1 A
> > > > > Nov  3 03:36:01 lerbsd named[9614]: suppressing duplicate notify ("lerctr.org" IN SOA)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:36:28 lerbsd named[9614]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA 2000110100" (lerctr.org); 6 NS, 6 A
> > > > > Nov  3 03:37:04 lerbsd named-xfer[9627]: send AXFR query 0 to 207.158.72.11
> > > > > Nov  3 03:37:04 lerbsd named[9614]: slave zone "lerctr.org" (IN) loaded (serial 2000110300)
> > > > > Nov  3 03:37:29 lerbsd named[9614]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA 2000110300" (lerctr.org); 6 NS, 6 A
> > > > > Nov  3 04:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: Cleaned cache of 4 RRsets
> > > > > Nov  3 04:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: USAGE 973247750 973244150 CPU=0.06739u/0.042884s CHILDCPU=0.009824u/0.004912s
> > > > > Nov  3 04:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: NSTATS 973247750 973244150 A=62 PTR=19 MX=3 AAAA=7 ANY=2
> > > > > Nov  3 04:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: XSTATS 973247750 973244150 RR=39 RNXD=5 RFwdR=20 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=13 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=19 SAns=93 SFwdQ=7 SDupQ=0 SErr=0 RQ=93 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=7 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0 SFwdR=20 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=17 SNXD=6 RUQ=0 RURQ=0 RUXFR=0 RUUpd=0
> > > > > Nov  3 05:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: Cleaned cache of 0 RRsets
> > > > > Nov  3 05:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: USAGE 973251350 973244150 CPU=0.086864u/0.042884s CHILDCPU=0.009824u/0.004912s
> > > > > Nov  3 05:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: NSTATS 973251350 973244150 A=82 PTR=37 MX=3 AAAA=7 ANY=2
> > > > > Nov  3 05:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: XSTATS 973251350 973244150 RR=40 RNXD=5 RFwdR=20 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=13 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=20 SAns=131 SFwdQ=7 SDupQ=0 SErr=0 RQ=131 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=7 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0 SFwdR=20 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=35 SNXD=6 RUQ=0 RURQ=0 RUXFR=0 RUUpd=0
> > > > > Nov  3 06:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: Cleaned cache of 0 RRsets
> > > > > Nov  3 06:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: USAGE 973254950 973244150 CPU=0.112011u/0.043559s CHILDCPU=0.009824u/0.004912s
> > > > > Nov  3 06:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: NSTATS 973254950 973244150 A=109 PTR=55 MX=3 AAAA=9 ANY=2
> > > > > Nov  3 06:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: XSTATS 973254950 973244150 RR=40 RNXD=5 RFwdR=20 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=13 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=20 SAns=179 SFwdQ=7 SDupQ=0 SErr=0 RQ=179 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=7 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0 SFwdR=20 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=54 SNXD=6 RUQ=0 RURQ=0 RUXFR=0 RUUpd=0
> > > > > Nov  3 07:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: Cleaned cache of 3 RRsets
> > > > > Nov  3 07:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: USAGE 973258550 973244150 CPU=0.135415u/0.049241s CHILDCPU=0.009824u/0.004912s
> > > > > Nov  3 07:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: NSTATS 973258550 973244150 A=137 PTR=73 MX=4 AAAA=10 ANY=2
> > > > > Nov  3 07:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: XSTATS 973258550 973244150 RR=44 RNXD=5 RFwdR=23 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=13 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=21 SAns=227 SFwdQ=8 SDupQ=0 SErr=0 RQ=227 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=8 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0 SFwdR=23 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=74 SNXD=6 RUQ=0 RURQ=0 RUXFR=0 RUUpd=0
> > > > > Nov  3 08:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: Cleaned cache of 0 RRsets
> > > > > Nov  3 08:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: USAGE 973262150 973244150 CPU=0.156971u/0.05023s CHILDCPU=0.009824u/0.004912s
> > > > > Nov  3 08:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: NSTATS 973262150 973244150 A=161 SOA=1 PTR=91 MX=4 AAAA=11 ANY=2
> > > > > Nov  3 08:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: XSTATS 973262150 973244150 RR=44 RNXD=5 RFwdR=23 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=13 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=21 SAns=271 SFwdQ=8 SDupQ=0 SErr=0 RQ=271 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=8 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0 SFwdR=23 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=92 SNXD=6 RUQ=0 RURQ=0 RUXFR=0 RUUpd=0
> > > > > Nov  3 09:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: Cleaned cache of 0 RRsets
> > > > > Nov  3 09:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: USAGE 973265750 973244150 CPU=0.179276u/0.053119s CHILDCPU=0.009824u/0.004912s
> > > > > Nov  3 09:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: NSTATS 973265750 973244150 A=185 SOA=1 PTR=109 MX=6 AAAA=12 ANY=3
> > > > > Nov  3 09:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: XSTATS 973265750 973244150 RR=44 RNXD=5 RFwdR=23 RDupR=0 RFail=0 RFErr=0 RErr=13 RAXFR=0 RLame=0 ROpts=0 SSysQ=21 SAns=318 SFwdQ=8 SDupQ=0 SErr=0 RQ=317 RIQ=0 RFwdQ=8 RDupQ=0 RTCP=0 SFwdR=23 SFail=0 SFErr=0 SNaAns=111 SNXD=8 RUQ=0 RURQ=0 RUXFR=0 RUUpd=0
> > > > > 
> > > > > And 207.158.72.45 (lerbsd) hasn't seen the notify.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Here is the zone:
> > > > > 
> > > > > $TTL 86400
> > > > > ; zone file for lerctr.org 
> > > > > 
> > > > > @		IN SOA lerami.lerctr.org. hostmaster.lerctr.org. (
> > > > > 			2000110302	; serial # (Aug 24, 1995, seq 0)
> > > > > 			10800	 ; refresh (three hours)
> > > > > 			3600	; retry  (one hour)
> > > > > 			1209600	; exipration (two weeks)
> > > > > 			86400	; minimum TTL (one day)
> > > > > 			)
> > > > > 
> > > > > ;
> > > > > ;	name servers
> > > > > ;
> > > > > 		IN NS ns-a.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		IN NS ns-b.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		IN NS ns-a.cirr.com.
> > > > > 		IN NS ns3.iadfw.net.
> > > > > 		IN NS ns4.iadfw.net.
> > > > > 		IN NS mainhost.cyberramp.net.
> > > > > 		IN NS mailhost.cyberramp.net.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ; MX record so <user>@lerctr.org works
> > > > >                 IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		IN LOC   32 56 57.48  N 96 39 24.12 W 100.00m 10.00m 100.00m 10.00m
> > > > > fw		IN A  207.158.72.1
> > > > > 		IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		HINFO "486DX4-100" "FreeBSD 4.1-STABLE"
> > > > > lerami		IN A  207.158.72.11
> > > > > 		IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		HINFO "PentiumIII-500" "UnixWare 7 7.1.1"
> > > > > ns-a            IN A  207.158.72.11
> > > > > 		IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		HINFO "PentiumIII-500" "UnixWare 7 7.1.1"
> > > > > lerbsd		IN A  207.158.72.45
> > > > > 		IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		HINFO "PentiumIII-600E" "FreeBSD 4.2-BETA"
> > > > > www2		CNAME lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > ns-b		IN A  207.158.72.45
> > > > > 		IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		HINFO "PentiumIII-600E" "FreeBSD 4.2-BETA"
> > > > > ; lerami is also www & ftp & news & mail
> > > > > www             CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > www1            CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > ftp             CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > news            CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > mail            CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > pop3            CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > pop             CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > imap		CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > lerdesk         CNAME ler-desk.iadfw.net.
> > > > > ler-desk        CNAME ler-desk.iadfw.net.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ; HTTP Virtual Domains/Name Based HTTP/1.1 Req'd
> > > > > socaltip	IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > caltip		IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > norcaltip	IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > cencaltip	IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > socata		IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > www.socata	IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > garland-fourth	IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > www.garland-fourth IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > laradio		IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > www.laradio	IN CNAME lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > ; Squirt's Win 98 SE box
> > > > > lerisis         IN A  207.158.72.12
> > > > > 		IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		HINFO "Intel Pentium(r)" "Windows 98se"
> > > > > lerlaptop	IN A  207.158.72.14
> > > > > 		IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		HINFO "Toshiba 4005cds" "UnixWare 7 7.1.1"
> > > > > 
> > > > > ler300		IN A 207.158.72.16
> > > > > 		IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 		HINFO "Intel Pentium-II 350" "Windows 2000 Pro"
> > > > > lj5		IN A 207.158.72.30
> > > > > 		IN MX 10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > >                 IN MX 20 lerbsd.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 
> > > > > ; Ft. Worth people that use lerctr.org.
> > > > > rwsys           IN MX 10 mx.rwsystems.net.
> > > > > rwsystr         IN MX 10 mx.rwsystems.net.
> > > > > caleb           IN MX 10 mx.rwsystems.net.
> > > > > nemesis         IN MX 10 mx.rwsystems.net.
> > > > > dansys          IN MX 10 mx.rwsystems.net.
> > > > > rowdy           IN MX 10 rowdy-gw.fastlane.net.
> > > > > ;; Gordon Burditt
> > > > > sneaky		IN A	206.138.224.67
> > > > > 		IN MX 	10 sneaky.lerctr.org.
> > > > > hammy		IN A	206.138.224.67
> > > > > 		IN MX 	10 hammy.lerctr.org.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > jinlite		IN	MX	10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > piziali		IN	MX	10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > doubled		IN	MX	10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > bluecafe	IN	MX	10 lerami.lerctr.org.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	It has then sent out NOTIFY messages, it will have also sent			out refresh queries, which have triggered a zone transfer.
> > > > > > 	The zone transfered zone is then loaded triggering a second
> > > > > > 	set of NOTIFY messages.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	As to why it didn't hear from 207.158.72.11, one would first
> > > > > > 	check ns-a.lerctr.org logs to see if the NOTIFY was sent to
> > > > > > 	all the six slaves.  Then check the log for the same time
> > > > > > 	on ns-b.lerctr.org.  Note NOTIFY messages are queued for up
> > > > > > 	to 5 minutes.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 	Mark
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > LER
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > * Mark.Andrews@nominum.com <Mark.Andrews@nominum.com> [001103 06:20]:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 	Because a NOTIFY is supposed to be sent whenever a master,
> > > > > > > > 	not just the primary master, loads a new copy of a zone.
> > > > > > > > 	This allows "master -> slave -> slave" to work out of the box.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 	Mark
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Why is OUR named sending notify's for a SECONDARY zone?
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > lerbsd# tail /var/log/messages
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: listening on [127.0.0.1].53 (lo0)
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9613]: Forwarding source address is
> > > > > > > > > [0.0.0.0].1745
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:35:50 lerbsd named[9614]: Ready to answer queries.
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:36:01 lerbsd named[9614]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA
> > > > > > > > > 2000110100" (lerctr.org); 1 NS, 1 A
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:36:01 lerbsd named[9614]: suppressing duplicate notify
> > > > > > > > > ("lerctr.org" IN SOA)
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:36:01 lerbsd last message repeated 3 times
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:36:28 lerbsd named[9614]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA
> > > > > > > > > 2000110100" (lerctr.org); 6 NS, 6 A
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:37:04 lerbsd named-xfer[9627]: send AXFR query 0 to
> > > > > > > > > 207.158.72.11
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:37:04 lerbsd named[9614]: slave zone "lerctr.org" (IN)
> > > > > > > > > loaded (serial 2000110300)
> > > > > > > > > Nov  3 03:37:29 lerbsd named[9614]: Sent NOTIFY for "lerctr.org IN SOA
> > > > > > > > > 2000110300" (lerctr.org); 6 NS, 6 A
> > > > > > > > > lerbsd# 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > -- 
> > > > > > > > > Larry Rosenman                      http://www.lerctr.org/~ler
> > > > > > > > > Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: ler@lerctr.org
> > > > > > > > > US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749
> > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > 1 Seymour St., Dundas Valley, NSW 2117, Australia
> > > > > > > > PHONE: +61 2 9871 4742                 INTERNET: Mark.Andrews@nominum.com
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