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Date:      Wed, 14 Mar 2001 11:19:27 -0800
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
To:        nate@yogotech.com
Cc:        asmodai@wxs.nl, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: The Project and onward [was: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c]
Message-ID:  <20010314111927Q.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: <15023.48910.778438.228247@nomad.yogotech.com>
References:  <15023.42384.196115.528084@nomad.yogotech.com> <20010314104836N.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <15023.48910.778438.228247@nomad.yogotech.com>

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> Again, we can agree to disagree.  The parts of FreeBSD that set us apart
> from the other OS's are submissions by brilliant coders and visionaries,
> many of whom are no longer as active as they once were.

I think we must simply have a very different definition of "brilliant"
then.  The people I've worked with these last nine years have been
some very bright folks, but brilliant?  Albert Einstein was brilliant.
Richard Feynman was brilliant.  Folks like you and I are merely
"smart" :)

> Or the VM system, or the easier install tools, or the pors system, or
> SMPng, or real-working shared libraries, etc....

I would argue that all of these are incremental refinements and all
fairly obvious ones at that, requiring more of an investment of sweat
than brilliance.  If you're arguing that truly new and innovative
technology is what makes us special then I would argue that we're not
special yet because I haven't really seen any of that since we
started. :)

- Jordan

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