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Date:      Tue, 13 Jul 2010 09:46:04 +0200
From:      David DEMELIER <demelier.david@gmail.com>
To:        freebsd-ports@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: dspam install
Message-ID:  <AANLkTikSxrIkpzB-cFiGCwOrggv6-4qp-vgIw08HIIQa@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <20100712230428.GB18432@magic.hamla.org>
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2010/7/13 Sahil Tandon <sahil@freebsd.org>:
> On Mon, 2010-07-12 at 21:28:56 +0200, David DEMELIER wrote:
>
>> .if defined(WITH_MYSQL)
>> WANT_MYSQL_VER=3D 55 ...
>> .endif
>>
>> Then if the user wants a different version he still can change using :
>> WITH_MYSQL_VER=3D 44.
>
> That change by itself will not work because in bsd.database.mk:
>
> =C2=A0.if defined(WITH_MYSQL_VER) && ${WITH_MYSQL_VER} !=3D ${WANT_MYSQL_=
VER}
> =C2=A0IGNORE=3D ...
>

Then, explain me why do both php5 and php5-pgsql have not
KNOBS/OPTIONS like dspam and work with this variable WITH_PGSQL_VER ?

$ pwd
/usr/ports/databases/php5-pgsql
$ WITH_PGSQL_VER=3D83 make all-depends-list
/usr/ports/lang/php5
[...]
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql83-client
[...]
$ WITH_PGSQL_VER=3D84 make all-depends-list
/usr/ports/lang/php5
[...]
/usr/ports/databases/postgresql84-client
[...]

>> Why don't keep it simple and simple?
>
> I am not sure what you mean. =C2=A0Complexity is not a goal of the projec=
t.
> If you have an idea that does not forfeit existing functionality or
> violate POLA, please submit it as a patch.
>
>> And why don't use things how they should be used?
>
> Once again, I am confused by your question. =C2=A0Please clarify your
> meaning.
>

Because I meant, if someone made these KNOBS, that's would suppose
they should be used. As shown just above it works with php5-pgsql.

So if a variable could be used to specify a specific version, it must
be used instead of a couple of option that set the package version. I
think WITH_MYSQL_VER and WITH_PGSQL_VER were made for that. (There is
one for apache too)

>> I think there is still a lot of problems in many ports.
>
> I think we all agree that there is room for improvement. =C2=A0Since you =
have
> identified many problems, I look forward to your PRs.
>
>> We must make a big KISS cleanup in the ports tree to make it as good
>> as NetBSD' pkgsrc.
>
> Please send PRs or provide specific details; general comments like the
> above are not helpful.

Yes sometime I'm nasty with people, I'm sorry about that but when I
saw this port I just didn't understand.

I apologize for my english.

--=20
Demelier David



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