From owner-freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Sun Jan 30 13:05:30 2005 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4229816A4CE for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:05:30 +0000 (GMT) Received: from av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net [81.228.11.115]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C0AC643D54 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:05:28 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from ertr1013@student.uu.se) Received: by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix, from userid 502) id 8375E37E53; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:05:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net [81.228.8.178]) by av9-1-sn1.fre.skanova.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 737CC37E44 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:05:27 +0100 (CET) Received: from falcon.midgard.homeip.net (h201n1fls24o1048.bredband.comhem.se [212.181.162.201]) by smtp2-2-sn2.hy.skanova.net (Postfix) with SMTP id 3ED5837E42 for ; Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:05:27 +0100 (CET) Received: (qmail 92480 invoked by uid 1001); 30 Jan 2005 13:05:26 -0000 Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 14:05:26 +0100 From: Erik Trulsson To: Kirill Ponomarew Message-ID: <20050130130526.GA92427@falcon.midgard.homeip.net> Mail-Followup-To: Kirill Ponomarew , Holger Kipp , freebsd-stable@freebsd.org, perl@freebsd.org, Scott Long , freebsd-ports@freebsd.org References: <20050129202425.GA56998@heechee.tobez.org> <41FC75E9.3060601@freebsd.org> <20050130104732.GA30800@intserv.int1.b.intern> <20050130105323.GB62253@voodoo.oberon.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20050130105323.GB62253@voodoo.oberon.net> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.6i cc: Holger Kipp cc: Scott Long cc: perl@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org cc: freebsd-ports@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [HEADS UP] perl symlinks in /usr/bin will be gone X-BeenThere: freebsd-stable@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list List-Id: Production branch of FreeBSD source code List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 30 Jan 2005 13:05:30 -0000 On Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 11:53:23AM +0100, Kirill Ponomarew wrote: > On Sun, Jan 30, 2005 at 11:47:32AM +0100, Holger Kipp wrote: > > > I'm fine with this plan for 6-CURRENT. For 5-STABLE, it's a major > > > user-visible change, and that is something that we promised to avoid > > > with stable branches. > > > > It violates POLA on 5-STABLE, and it will violate POLA on 6-CURRENT, > > especially as most perl programmers assume /usr/bin/perl to be the > > correct path. > > If it's linux tradition to put perl in this path, perl programmers > should assume another path on FreeBSD, so it isn't an argument for > the proposed change. It is not a *Linux* tradition. It is a *Perl* tradition which predates both Linux and FreeBSD. Most Perl documentation, going back over a decade, has used #!/usr/bin/perl in example scripts and strongly suggested that system administrators should put Perl there. I would say that there are probably more Perl scripts out there that refer to "#!/usr/bin/perl" than all other variants put together. > > > We had enough good arguments against this change already, so imho > > the correct thing to do is do just what Kris asked for: remove the > > _dangling_ symlinks. -- Erik Trulsson ertr1013@student.uu.se