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Date:      Tue, 12 Oct 1999 11:58:05 -0600 (MDT)
From:      "Forrest W. Christian" <forrestc@iMach.com>
To:        "Eric J. Schwertfeger" <ejs@bfd.com>
Cc:        Mike Pontillo <mike_p@revenge.pylos.net>, freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: NICs
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.3.96.991012113001.29012B-100000@workhorse.iMach.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910120900130.15303-100000@harlie.bfd.com>

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> After a business trip out of town, I managed to get the owner for a small
> company to realize that buying the cheapest possible NICs wasn't the way
> to run a consulting business.  He had picked up 5 of the D-Link 10/100 PCI
> nics. One wouldn't work at all (nothing we did would even show that the
> card existed), one had a packet loss rate of about 30%, and none of them
> wanted to work on the customers 10BaseT network.  Between this and the
> fact that the D-Link cards change regularly (often in ways that older
> FreeBSD drivers don't like), he finally agreed to change that policy.

This isn't meant as a flame - sometimes I get a little carried away when I
have a strong feeling about something.

I utilize $9.00 Ethernet cards almost 100% of the time here.  Currently
I'm using the CNET PowerNIC's for the ISA and another brand for the PCI. 
Almost never have problems. The real trick is that once you find a
consistent brand/model to stay with it.  I used to use the cheap ones in
house and 3coms for all of my customer work.  With the idea that the
3com's were better.  However, I have now switched to using the cheaper
NIC's almost exclusively. The reason? I have had an incredible amount of
problems with 3com nics.  NICS that crash servers, Nics that don't work,
etc.  FAR more than with the sub-$20 nics.   Now mind you, I've had a
couple of manufacturers of sub-$20 nics that I will never buy from again,
but with careful purchasing when dealing with a new vendor (buy 2-3 and
use them, and then 10 and then... whatever quantity you really need) you
can usually determine the bad manufacturers within the first $100 of
expenditure.  I haven't had to go through this for quite a while, though
as CNet seems to be quite stable.

That said, the Intel EtherExpress family seem to work EXTREMELY well and
extremely good.  I put them in all my customer's "high-end" freebsd boxes
and in my customer's high-end servers.


- Forrest W. Christian (forrestc@imach.com) KD7EHZ
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