From owner-freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG Thu Dec 23 17:06:44 2004 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.FreeBSD.org (mx1.freebsd.org [216.136.204.125]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A0F5616A4CE for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:06:44 +0000 (GMT) Received: from wproxy.gmail.com (wproxy.gmail.com [64.233.184.197]) by mx1.FreeBSD.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44F7C43D45 for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:06:44 +0000 (GMT) (envelope-from geekout@gmail.com) Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id 36so37867wra for ; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:06:43 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:reply-to:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:references; b=LTQcnT8bVjWWGMidIzckgwA/5+hk1gxl8ZaiIn9vxVtTlPx8yQT8Snq6kxOEPh7TjxSQX0BCedE87vz/RcwU2D8d1/irz6YKbOtPmf6BaQOidnoGZl8eYR8gcwx7UYcJjw0lrTjlqGaCK++cSRatTBuUAi/+HmLZyRiMscyb2wI= Received: by 10.54.6.69 with SMTP id 69mr106590wrf; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:06:43 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.54.46.34 with HTTP; Thu, 23 Dec 2004 09:06:43 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <6e01203b04122309064e682e1c@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 10:06:43 -0700 From: Tyler Gee To: Mervin McDougall In-Reply-To: <20041223163352.50460.qmail@web61202.mail.yahoo.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit References: <20041223163352.50460.qmail@web61202.mail.yahoo.com> cc: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Time to shut down this list? X-BeenThere: freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.1 Precedence: list Reply-To: Tyler Gee List-Id: Gathering place for new users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Dec 2004 17:06:44 -0000 I agree that -newbies is important for people who are otherwise too intimidated to post to -questions or anything else. I know that when I first started (which was only a year ago), I *never* would have felt comfortable posting to a regular list, not because people there were necessarily mean but because I felt my questions were too stupid. I think if you get rid of -newbies you are going to see a lot of people too scared to ask questions which means they risk moving away from FreeBSD or you are going to see -questions inundated with questions that will annoy people who don't want to deal with questions that newbies tend to have. I don't know what the problem is as people can merely unsubscribe from -newbies. Personally I read through them and try to help people out when I can. Let's be honest, how else can we achieve our goals of world domination if we are not nice to the little people. :) Happy holidays all! -wtgee On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 08:33:52 -0800 (PST), Mervin McDougall wrote: > There is an old saying that goes, "Be nice to the > persons you meet on your way up,cause these are the > same persons whom you meet on your down." > > I myself am a noobie and I guess we all are on some > level. Nobody knows everything there is to know about > unix not a noobie or the most experienced kernel > hacker. To continue the legacy of persons acquiring > and learning freebsd you need to foster first that > feeling that it is ok to learn and it is not for an > elite few. Everyone has got to start somewhere for > goodness sake. > > But if you consider over time if you are going to need > help from your user base to support you in any way, > they are going to look back on freebsd more for how > they were treated and how well they were attended to > more than the request for help. They will be pouring > out themselves to help even though they may not be the > best programmer, kernel hacker, documenter or > otherwise. > > If we have to foster and maintain a community that > will ensure that FreeBSD will be there for others to > love and enjoy in the future we have to remember to do > those little things like helping out those who are not > as technically inclined to get up to speed. > > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Jazz up your holiday email with celebrity designs. Learn more. > http://celebrity.mail.yahoo.com > _______________________________________________ > freebsd-newbies@freebsd.org mailing list > http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-newbies > To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-newbies-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >