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Date:      Thu, 19 Oct 2000 06:39:59 +0200
From:      Neil Blakey-Milner <nbm@mithrandr.moria.org>
To:        Wes Peters <wes@softweyr.com>
Cc:        Laurence Berland <stuyman@confusion.net>, chat@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Starting to code
Message-ID:  <20001019063959.A19817@mithrandr.moria.org>
In-Reply-To: <39EDEA94.BAE8F635@softweyr.com>; from wes@softweyr.com on Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 12:23:16PM -0600
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On Wed 2000-10-18 (12:23), Wes Peters wrote:
> Laurence Berland wrote:
> > 
> > Wes Peters wrote:
> > >
> > > Laurence Berland wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What's a good place to start if you're a university student with limited
> > > > hardware who wants to jump in and get going with the FreeBSD code.
> > > > Right now I've got a PPro 200 with 32 MB of ram and lots of disk space
> > > > (~50 gigs).  10 gigs or so is used by FreeBSD-Stable.  I'm thinking of
> > > > tossing Current on also, and maybe making the cvs repo a separate
> > > > partition so I can share it between current and stable.
> > >
> > > I love it when people call a PPro 200 with 32 MB "limited hardware".  My
> > > first Free/NetBSD machine was a 386/40 with 8MB RAM and a 340 MB disk, and
> > > it was state of the art except for lack of a CD-ROM drive.
> > >
> > I thought it was more than fast enough, and for most things it is, but
> > KDE manages to crawl nonetheless...
> 
> WindowMaker.  ;^)

I've recently discovered pwm, and I must say I can't imagine going back
to anything else.

The key feature is windows that share a common frame.  I have three
Eterms connected to the same frame with tabs at the top of the frame to
choose the Eterm I want to see.

This works even better for Netscape - I have about 12 or so Netscapes
connected in one frame, and I just use meta-W to close ones I'm finished
with and meta-N to add a new Netscape to the frame.  No new windows
rushing to the top in some weird place - all Netscape windows share the
same mostly-maximised frame.  I can shortcut with ctrl-shift-x where x
is a single numeral to the number of the tab, or use ctrl-shift-N and
ctrl-shift-P to move to the next and previous tabs respectively.
Netscape even seems to crash less, but that's probably just wishful
thinking.

It _is_ chewing a whole 1.7 megs SIZE and 1.3 RES, though.  Bad bad pwm,
with quite a few frames and a number of tabs in each, all over about 6
workspaces.  And I haven't manage to crash it yet, so I'm quite happy.

Check out ports/x11-wm/pwm sometime.  See the home page
http://www.students.tut.fi/~tuomov/pwm/ for what passes for "themes". (:

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Neil
-- 
Neil Blakey-Milner
nbm@mithrandr.moria.org


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