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Date:      Wed, 17 Sep 2003 10:39:27 -0500
From:      "Charles Howse" <chowse@charter.net>
To:        "'Ekrem'" <ekrem@ozemail.com.au>
Cc:        'freebsd-questions' <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   RE: Boot timeout? - SOLVED
Message-ID:  <003801c37d31$e12b0bb0$04fea8c0@moe>
In-Reply-To: <003701c37d2f$6e266210$04fea8c0@moe>

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> > On Wed, 2003-09-17 at 05:47, Charles Howse wrote:
> > > > > Now the system hangs for about 20 seconds at the BIOS drive=20
> > > > detection,
> > > > > and at the FBSD atapi controller detection.
> > > >=20
> > > > Are you using ATAPICAM?  If so, it's probably the SCSI settling.
> > > > That's adjustable in the kernel configuration.
> > >=20
> > > The string 'atapicam' does not appear in my
> > > /usr/src/sys/i386/conf/CUSTOM customized kernel config=20
> > file.  Is that
> > > what you meant?  I did find that string in LINT, but I'm=20
> > not using it.
> > >=20
> > > I may have misled you in my post.  What I should have said is, the
> > > system hangs for about 20 seconds at the BIOS drive=20
> > detection, and then
> > > there is another 20 second delay when FBSD is detecting=20
> > devices, *after*
> > > it displays the line about finding the atapi controller. =20
> > It displays
> > > that line concerning the atapi controller, issues 2 cr/lf=20
> > and pauses for
> > > that 20 seconds.  It then continues to load without error,=20
> > all devices
> > > are detected properly and I can read and write to them.
> > >=20
> > > I really think this delay may be more related to hardware=20
> > than software.
> > > I just booted the system to an MS-DOS diskette, and the=20
> > delay is still
> > > there.  I have no special settings in BIOS.
> > >=20
> > > BTW: I've also posted this to alt.comp.hardware.  No joy yet.
> >=20
> > Hi,
> >=20
> > I also think the delay is hardware related. The most common=20
> > reason would
> > be if a drive was jumpered incorrectly, eg. if the drive is=20
> > set as slave
> > but there is no master drive, or the master drive is set with slave
> > drive present when there is no slave drive.
> >=20
> > So the BIOS waits for a response from an unavailable drive or=20
> > until the
> > time-out period is reached.
> >=20
> > In your original post you mentioned the 2Gb was set as=20
> > master, then you
> > connected it as secondary-slave. You would need to change jumper
> > settings to reflect this.
>=20
> Yes, I changed the jumper.
> I will check the Western Digital (I HATE them) web site for up-to-date
> info on jumper settings for that drive, and try different settings
> myself, but I think I have it correct to begin with.

OK, this was another 'dumb-ass' issue on my part.
After checking the WDC web site, I realized that since the WDC drive was
the *only* drive on the primary channel, it should *NOT* be jumpered at
all.  I had it jumpered for 'dual master'

Thanks to all who responded.




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