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Date:      Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700
From:      Chip Camden <sterling@camdensoftware.com>
To:        FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit
Message-ID:  <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.BSF.2.00.1105160834360.22315@wonkity.com>
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Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011:
> On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote:
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> >--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have sa=
id:
> >
> >>On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden
> >><sterling@camdensoftware.com> wrote:
> >>>I wish I could figure
> >>>out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it.
> >>
> >>I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by
> >>some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe
> >>a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to
> >>find out which one it is.
> >
> >--As for the rest, it is mine.
> >
> >Sure it is:
> >
> >cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal
> >make deinstall
> >
> >It will list what ports require it.  ;)
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> pkg_info -R hal\* will show the same list without actually deinstalling=
=20
> it.
>=20
> But some or most of those don't directly depend on hal, they depend on=20
> something else that depends on hal.  It would be nice to easily find the=
=20
> root few.  xorg-server can be set to not use hal.  Then rebuild the=20
> keyboard, mouse, and video drivers.
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> One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which=20
> depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal.

Yes, that seems to be the sticking point.  The only option appears to be
doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui.
Any Gnome-free alternatives out there?

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