From owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Mon May 16 18:14:54 2011 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:4f8:fff6::34]) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 37A30106567D for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:14:54 +0000 (UTC) (envelope-from sterling@camdensoftware.com) Received: from wh1.interactivevillages.com (ca.2e.7bae.static.theplanet.com [174.123.46.202]) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0C8E8FC19 for ; Mon, 16 May 2011 18:14:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from c-24-22-230-24.hsd1.wa.comcast.net ([24.22.230.24] helo=_HOSTNAME_) by wh1.interactivevillages.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QM2Jf-0007ZY-0A for freebsd-questions@freebsd.org; Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:28 -0700 Received: by _HOSTNAME_ (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700 Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 11:14:49 -0700 From: Chip Camden To: FreeBSD Questions Message-ID: <20110516181449.GD68208@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> Mail-Followup-To: FreeBSD Questions References: <117637.44743.qm@web111903.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <20110515191828.GA3647@libertas.local.camdensoftware.com> <20110516100038.9940bcfc.freebsd@edvax.de> <10F63344ABE3D90FFAF0BC99@mac-pro.magehandbook.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="T7mxYSe680VjQnyC" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.4.2.3i Company: Camden Software Consulting URL: http://camdensoftware.com X-PGP-Key: http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?search=0xD6DBAF91 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - wh1.interactivevillages.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - freebsd.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - camdensoftware.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Subject: Re: No keyboard after ports update, 2x moused_enable="YES" culprit X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 18:14:54 -0000 --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Quoth Warren Block on Monday, 16 May 2011: > On Mon, 16 May 2011, Daniel Staal wrote: >=20 > >--As of May 16, 2011 10:00:38 AM +0200, Polytropon is alleged to have sa= id: > > > >>On Sun, 15 May 2011 12:18:28 -0700, Chip Camden > >> wrote: > >>>I wish I could figure > >>>out what dependency wanted HAL to be installed so I could remove it. > >> > >>I would assume that the HAL dependency may be required by > >>some deeper-inside Gnome part that is used by Gimp, maybe > >>a part of the Gtk+ library... I'm not sure it's trivial to > >>find out which one it is. > > > >--As for the rest, it is mine. > > > >Sure it is: > > > >cd /usr/ports/sysutils/hal > >make deinstall > > > >It will list what ports require it. ;) >=20 > pkg_info -R hal\* will show the same list without actually deinstalling= =20 > it. >=20 > But some or most of those don't directly depend on hal, they depend on=20 > something else that depends on hal. It would be nice to easily find the= =20 > root few. xorg-server can be set to not use hal. Then rebuild the=20 > keyboard, mouse, and video drivers. >=20 > One problem with getting rid of hal entirely is libgnomeui, which=20 > depends on gvfs, which depends on gnome-mount, which depends on hal. Yes, that seems to be the sticking point. The only option appears to be doing without gimp, gnumeric, and dia, which all depend upon libgnomeui. Any Gnome-free alternatives out there? --=20 =2EO. | Sterling (Chip) Camden | http://camdensoftware.com =2E.O | sterling@camdensoftware.com | http://chipsquips.com OOO | 2048R/D6DBAF91 | http://chipstips.com --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Disposition: inline -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.11 (FreeBSD) iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJN0WmZAAoJEIpckszW26+RT44IAKNNhrLEi0DS/FqCu7HCGHm8 r/YJI3OjG/uhlslWqwqZCKSFzqp9IZuuKDKaCg6O3hfmKu+uQ40mk7GZDlBcQQPg 18czQO0S8TeGzF/9iCp0UTfZP66WGdC+r5MbIonlXP7ACbLWEpqXnDKJdLUldeST cY4YNCxDVDdh+1vDEHF5lVeW15PqVi12tQ5EzI+1gtsdBqEMo72YjhDCzmV30hf5 g0pXNVo93wZJv4+rfOLh3HHAMm5rSkgA5zgBayuwISBhIl0QNsrPtDc0XEXNt2OJ IkcD3fmRA1kB5iP+tPoaWs62IA54QbSXtC8TNt5GOyP85pyNUY3nuNfTou9madQ= =dpu7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --T7mxYSe680VjQnyC--