From owner-freebsd-hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Mon Mar 17 02:54:43 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [IPv6:2001:1900:2254:206a::19:1]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1F683A99 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 02:54:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from nm47-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com (nm47-vm10.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com [216.109.114.219]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B1A6F228 for ; Mon, 17 Mar 2014 02:54:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [66.196.81.172] by nm47.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2014 02:51:12 -0000 Received: from [98.139.211.205] by tm18.bullet.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2014 02:51:12 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 17 Mar 2014 02:51:12 -0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s1024; t=1395024672; bh=hP4x82xT4AO8kICtgQdtLPVEJ9/2k/bOTewGqdGe3mE=; h=X-Yahoo-Newman-Id:X-Yahoo-Newman-Property:X-YMail-OSG:X-Yahoo-SMTP:X-Rocket-Received:References:Mime-Version:In-Reply-To:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-Id:Cc:X-Mailer:From:Subject:Date:To; b=vqE93ZlSWaOvWjlSMtYRefYufUjD6aMEjLds6t13vChN0oSUKJ+AzOvxLumUFIReNuUZwrTaTKDWTyeWATIyxskJfmkDuXx+kY6ZJrjmmLFRxYlbyxCTQyCiPXqvoxR9YO/2eDY23y9eC9Eo71KqarpFRwO5Jk93i1cmF/fPLig= X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 646976.96288.bm@smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: rzGIMRIVM1njmQPoPSD5iyeg7uV.mQDw8.kq1.aL9riWCYg OgJNVtcHvMI5HWDWXoSbrRP1MY4dx_t3G.xvV9F8a6DLwaTSTkB83_RKTwTF lCKoS7H2tI1k698F3SQvzQRS4D5k_Fc0IWkESVyJasD6AFW.RJdYnvSpd4em SXfEXbL_cQyr8Nn8_3VawgPviGs4Ze_7F4NICqolUSRuvpus.f.5OuLEq15Q QKvSZBAXe4vEzKe1rSheUGc7M55KrJQKgGNL3wQ85bfXqzyK6OjS4AufOSTf Mi8ON1ntzca_P8CGN459O_zOesZmqpMPwoL43YGJfi_86i66pIpHhGh7z82D rJu_Bob9T.DJrblbQMK_LxU0e34V7mJnR0v7kuKylbhsUxWjuKbzw10I5kKp Aznxdb4eiEXg5.wJUytoQXl4wQL5Am4dQD2T2zYcmDDMGIvxuto3z_M37vhk P4pv4CLmSjEAx_Tbcb_GmedcNL3L9BVOWyI_VJjuLb_UQuL97FUIFOLVbHY5 MLX0YsCjy X-Yahoo-SMTP: LAFNfTaswBDguI7meB90l2l3wOU- X-Rocket-Received: from [10.234.211.170] (free7by@117.136.24.203 with xymcookie [106.10.149.123]) by smtp214.mail.bf1.yahoo.com with SMTP; 16 Mar 2014 19:51:12 -0700 PDT References: <20140317103830.53c42ade@X220.alogt.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <20140317103830.53c42ade@X220.alogt.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <611B8DE5-F593-4574-96AB-0965CA7EDF33@yahoo.com> X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (11D169) From: by Subject: Re: Something related to C and C++ Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:50:56 +0800 To: Erich Dollansky Cc: "freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org" X-BeenThere: freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.17 Precedence: list List-Id: Technical Discussions relating to FreeBSD List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Mar 2014 02:54:43 -0000 Well, I think C++'s popular has something related to C's popular use, but it= contains too much, I prefer simple tool, do one thing, and do it well, no m= ore extras, and build a system with their combinations, at least the base sy= stem. - by > On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:38, Erich Dollansky wrote: >=20 > Hi, >=20 > On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 10:20:55 +0800 > by wrote: >=20 > as C++ is C plus 'some' extras, just start with C. When you know C - > which you have to know anyway to write C++ programs - you can add C++ > to your knowledge. >=20 > Never forget that object orientated programming is much older than C++ > and can be done in most languages. I did my first steps in object > orientated programming in 8080 assembler without even knowing that > what I did will be later be known as object orientated programming. >=20 > The little programming I still do is all done in C but using some of > the 'addons' of C++. So, all my sources are .cpp files. >=20 > Erich >> Hi, >> At first, I would say, I do not want to lead to a holy war between >> programming languages, and I am a newbie in this field, but I am >> confused about this, so I want get some answers or discusses from >> here to help me thinking about this. I found that in IT industry, C++ >> has more and more users, I can understand why they do this, C++ can >> make them build system more easy than C does. okay, I just know a >> little about C++, but in my feeling, C++ can make you do things in a >> higher place. Yes, C++ is great, but for me, it is too difficult, or >> I would say, it is too complicated. I got two books in my hand, one >> is <>, another is <> Language>>. Just consider from the weight : ) You can find something. >> Language>>In the past, GCC use C, but now it turn to C++, and LLVM is >> Language>>written by C++. Yes I prefer C now, and you may say, you >> Language>>have not use these two languages deeply, how could you >> Language>>judge them? Yes, I know I should not judge them, but as a >> Language>>newbie, this is my very feeling, just like a kid first >> Language>>looking at this world! Simple, but confused. At last, I am >> Language>>not lead to a holy war between programming languages, I >> Language>>just confused and want some related answers. This is it. : ) >>=20 >> - by >> _______________________________________________ >> freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list >> http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers >> To unsubscribe, send any mail to >> "freebsd-hackers-unsubscribe@freebsd.org" >=20