From owner-freebsd-arch@FreeBSD.ORG Tue Sep 9 02:24:02 2014 Return-Path: Delivered-To: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org Received: from mx1.freebsd.org (mx1.freebsd.org [8.8.178.115]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ADH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by hub.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DAC64F40; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 02:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (wonkity.com [67.158.26.137]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "wonkity.com", Issuer "wonkity.com" (not verified)) by mx1.freebsd.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8957619C9; Tue, 9 Sep 2014 02:24:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from wonkity.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9) with ESMTP id s892O04D045638 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:24:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Received: from localhost (wblock@localhost) by wonkity.com (8.14.9/8.14.9/Submit) with ESMTP id s892O0V9045635; Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:24:00 -0600 (MDT) (envelope-from wblock@wonkity.com) Date: Mon, 8 Sep 2014 20:24:00 -0600 (MDT) From: Warren Block To: Adrian Chadd Subject: Re: /etc/motd summary In-Reply-To: Message-ID: References: <540E18ED.1070003@FreeBSD.org> <540E2410.30404@FreeBSD.org> <20140909004624.GA24341@spindle.one-eyed-alien.net> User-Agent: Alpine 2.11 (BSF 23 2013-08-11) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed X-Greylist: Sender IP whitelisted, not delayed by milter-greylist-4.4.3 (wonkity.com [127.0.0.1]); Mon, 08 Sep 2014 20:24:00 -0600 (MDT) Cc: "freebsd-arch@freebsd.org" , Brooks Davis , Bryan Drewery X-BeenThere: freebsd-arch@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18-1 Precedence: list List-Id: Discussion related to FreeBSD architecture List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Sep 2014 02:24:03 -0000 On Mon, 8 Sep 2014, Adrian Chadd wrote: > On 8 September 2014 17:46, Brooks Davis wrote: >> On Mon, Sep 08, 2014 at 05:25:31PM -0700, Adrian Chadd wrote: >>> for maximum bikeshed: what about adding a 'motd' command that, I >>> dunno, re-displays the motd? :P >> >> How would someone who didn't know about /etc/motd ever find that? > > Putting "Type 'motd' to see this information again" in the motd. Or leave it the way it is, /etc/motd is just a file that is displayed, but instead of dumping it to stdout, interpret some kind of markup in it. That's relatively high overhead considering the layout will still be limited to 80x24. We'd probably be better off leaving it as is and moving most of the information to a man page, say support(1), which is mentioned by /etc/motd.