Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2018 10:32:38 +0200 From: Ali Abdallah <aliovx@gmail.com> To: Matthew Macy <mmacy@freebsd.org> Cc: freebsd-current <freebsd-current@freebsd.org>, freebsd-stable@freebsd.org Subject: Re: drm / drm2 removal in 12 Message-ID: <CAO3OKx8-bWfdQU1XRxai6uK%2BpyfG3jD5SkSW9Yu_FK8LySuPOw@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <CAPrugNqV6k2QTuiLerAKLB_hV1hkZNi4MLNqKU7MtVnMhMfPQw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAPrugNr9wN63ANjTYzyrHRegr9KTk_OSTLfrt%2BhktCnfKX=_mg@mail.gmail.com> <20180824215302.ivfna55jtrtc5trg@freebsd480.station> <CAPrugNqV6k2QTuiLerAKLB_hV1hkZNi4MLNqKU7MtVnMhMfPQw@mail.gmail.com>
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Isn't Intel supposed to be working on a native drm driver for FreeBSD? https://bwidawsk.net/blog/index.php/2018/06/i965-compiler-architecture-from= -2015/ On Sat, Aug 25, 2018 at 12:19 AM, Matthew Macy <mmacy@freebsd.org> wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 24, 2018 at 14:53 Ali <aliovx@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Tue, Aug 21, 2018 at 06:54:54PM -0700, Matthew Macy wrote: >> > Just in case anyone misses the change to UPDATING: >> > >> > 20180821: >> > drm and drm2 have been removed. Users on powerpc, 32-bit >> hardware, >> > or with GPUs predating Radeon and i915 will need to install th= e >> > graphics/drm-legacy-kmod. All other users should be able to us= e >> > one of the LinuxKPI-based ports: graphics/drm-stable-kmod, >> > graphics/drm-next-kmod, graphics/drm-devel-kmod. >> > Note that this applies only to 12. >> >> I see that The removal of drm and drm2 has been reverted on svn. Could >> you please kindly share the reasons behind the re-inclusion? >> > > > I can=E2=80=99t really give the blow by blow of internal project drama, b= ut the > gist of it is that =E2=80=9Cbest practices=E2=80=9D (which are not yet ac= tually documented > anywhere that I=E2=80=99ve seen) were not followed with regards to the de= precation > process. Warner and others believe that we can address the objectives of > the drm removal (improving the user experience and communicating that > drm/drm2 are _completely_ unsupported apart from continuing to compile) > through less disruptive means. I am only acting as a lightning rod and > representative of the graphics team and so have done an inadequate job of > tracking their activities with respect to project timelines. As a result = of > this misunderstanding Johannes Lundberg will be sponsored for a bit and > will be able to be involved in internal discussions that impact his work. > > Our only continued frustration is that we were never given any guidance b= y > RE or core on said =E2=80=9Cbest practices=E2=80=9D when the discussion w= as taking place in > May and then those groups behaved as if this were a surprise when the > removal happened. I=E2=80=99m cautiously optimistic that this well expedi= te > improving communications on those matters. > > > Cheers. > -M >
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